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Old 11th September 2019, 12:28 AM   #1601
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
My goodness, Horatius, you really have to answer that question? Never watched a film about the mafia? How they only accept new people into their ranks if they prove themselves by doing certain heinous acts like murdering someone?
In reality most Mafia members are taken down using tax or financial law. Not many accountants are required to shoot people before picking up a client who may be in the Mafia.
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Old 11th September 2019, 01:41 AM   #1602
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
My goodness, Horatius, you really have to answer that question? Never watched a film about the mafia? How they only accept new people into their ranks if they prove themselves by doing certain heinous acts like murdering someone? To make sure that this person will stay loyal to the "company" because these acts are horrible in the public view and the company will make sure to have evidence of them? It isn't that hard a concept to get and it is the same in this scenario, true or not.
So which way round is it, CE?
Does a Satan-worshipping paedophile realise that their only way to success and acceptance is to run for President of the United States? This would seem odd, because obviously this kind of career involves an emormous amount of public exposure. Everything you do is broadcast around the world, your every move and word is pored over, you are filmed everywhere you go, surrounded by staff 24/7, and your entire past history is gone over with a fine tooth comb.
If you wanted to conceal your dreadful perversion, this surely would be the worst of all possible ways to do it.
Then there's the alternative, which is that, in order to gain admittance to the inner circle, you must become a Satanic paedophile. This again beggars belief. Sexual orientation is fixed at an early age. I don't see how you can choose to become a paedophile overnight, just to further your career. Plus the sudden conversion to Satanism.
Are we really expected to believe that, in all the years this is supposed to have been going on, that not one candidate refused? JFK? Jimmy Carter? Lincoln? No-one? Not one unsuccessful and disgruntled person decided to bring the whole show to an end by becoming a whistleblower? Not one of them had any sort of moral scruples of any kind?
As I say, CE: you choose. Be sure to back up your case with evidence.
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Old 11th September 2019, 08:08 AM   #1603
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
My goodness, Horatius, you really have to answer that question? Never watched a film about the mafia? How they only accept new people into their ranks if they prove themselves by doing certain heinous acts like murdering someone? To make sure that this person will stay loyal to the "company" because these acts are horrible in the public view and the company will make sure to have evidence of them? It isn't that hard a concept to get and it is the same in this scenario, true or not.
Is this from the movies, from fiction? Who are the bad guys, got any names - is this Hilary, or Trump (aka clownstick).
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Old 11th September 2019, 09:14 AM   #1604
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
My goodness, Horatius, you really have to answer that question? Never watched a film about the mafia? How they only accept new people into their ranks if they prove themselves by doing certain heinous acts like murdering someone? To make sure that this person will stay loyal to the "company" because these acts are horrible in the public view and the company will make sure to have evidence of them? It isn't that hard a concept to get and it is the same in this scenario, true or not.
I see you don't know much about organized crime other than what you saw in movies.
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Old 11th September 2019, 09:27 AM   #1605
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Big Q meetup today in DC. Grifters trying to extract a few more handfuls of cash before all the Q believers start pretending it was a joke all along and they never really believed it.
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Old 11th September 2019, 10:16 AM   #1606
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Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard View Post
In reality most Mafia members are taken down using tax or financial law. Not many accountants are required to shoot people before picking up a client who may be in the Mafia.
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I see you don't know much about organized crime other than what you saw in movies.

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Old 11th September 2019, 10:23 AM   #1607
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
My goodness, Horatius, you really have to answer that question? Never watched a film about the mafia? How they only accept new people into their ranks if they prove themselves by doing certain heinous acts like murdering someone? To make sure that this person will stay loyal to the "company" because these acts are horrible in the public view and the company will make sure to have evidence of them? It isn't that hard a concept to get and it is the same in this scenario, true or not.
If you're relating Q and their ******** to mafiosi you missed the boat.
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Old 11th September 2019, 10:42 AM   #1608
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Originally Posted by BStrong View Post
If you're relating Q and their ******** to mafiosi you missed the boat.
First rule of the mafiosi: Keep your mouth shut.

First Rule of Q: Blah, blah,blah, blah...
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Old 11th September 2019, 10:48 AM   #1609
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Originally Posted by BStrong View Post
If you're relating Q and their ******** to mafiosi you missed the boat.
Originally Posted by Axxman300 View Post
First rule of the mafiosi: Keep your mouth shut.

First Rule of Q: Blah, blah,blah, blah...

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Old 11th September 2019, 10:52 AM   #1610
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
My goodness, Horatius, you really have to answer that question? Never watched a film about the mafia? How they only accept new people into their ranks if they prove themselves by doing certain heinous acts like murdering someone? To make sure that this person will stay loyal to the "company" because these acts are horrible in the public view and the company will make sure to have evidence of them? It isn't that hard a concept to get and it is the same in this scenario, true or not.
His point is if the rich and powerful are into buggering little kids then why not shape the law to allow such conduct. As he points out the evolution of public acceptability has gone the other way, not just from the Ancient Greek and Roman cultures. Age of consent laws in the US have risen from as low as 14 to 18 almost across the board. NAMBLA has been chased under ground.

How is Q consistent with the real world?

Look at what Trump has done to change environmental laws to favor big business. Look at how Uber has bought enough influence to exempt itself from the laws that apply to Taxi services. Q wants people to believe that those in power and those in the entertainment industry would rather do dirty deeds in secret instead of using their influence to shape the culture into something more pedo-friendly. That's unrealistic.
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Old 11th September 2019, 11:32 AM   #1611
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
What you are not getting is that people here value your input just as much as they do Q anon. The end result is that regardless of your objective, your opinions are not to be taken as serious attempts to communicate anymore than a fictional mafia movie can be seen as similar to a fact filled documentary.
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Old 11th September 2019, 12:00 PM   #1612
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Originally Posted by Matthew Ellard View Post
In reality most Mafia members are taken down using tax or financial law.

Not many accountants are required to shoot people before picking up a client who may be in the Mafia.
Over the years that ceased to be the case.

Between active authorized FBI wiretaps/bugging and the propensity of individuals facing serious prison time to trade off knowledge for time, all of the major figures that went to trial and were convicted over the last 30 - 40 years went down on felony crimes and conspiracy charges.

It is interesting that way back when Mickey Cohen got nabbed and convicted twice for income tax evasion - for a resourceful fella he was awful careless.
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Old 12th September 2019, 02:33 AM   #1613
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So which way round is it, CE?
Does a Satan-worshipping paedophile realise that their only way to success and acceptance is to run for President of the United States? This would seem odd, because obviously this kind of career involves an emormous amount of public exposure. Everything you do is broadcast around the world, your every move and word is pored over, you are filmed everywhere you go, surrounded by staff 24/7, and your entire past history is gone over with a fine tooth comb.
If you wanted to conceal your dreadful perversion, this surely would be the worst of all possible ways to do it.
Then there's the alternative, which is that, in order to gain admittance to the inner circle, you must become a Satanic paedophile. This again beggars belief. Sexual orientation is fixed at an early age. I don't see how you can choose to become a paedophile overnight, just to further your career. Plus the sudden conversion to Satanism.
Are we really expected to believe that, in all the years this is supposed to have been going on, that not one candidate refused? JFK? Jimmy Carter? Lincoln? No-one? Not one unsuccessful and disgruntled person decided to bring the whole show to an end by becoming a whistleblower? Not one of them had any sort of moral scruples of any kind?
As I say, CE: you choose. Be sure to back up your case with evidence.
Bump for CE.
If you could respond, and with something more than an emoji, that would be nice.
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Old 12th September 2019, 11:44 PM   #1614
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Q wants people to believe that those in power and those in the entertainment industry would rather do dirty deeds in secret instead of using their influence to shape the culture into something more pedo-friendly. That's unrealistic.

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It appears they are doing both.

Why wouldnt they do both?

Except for the dirtiest, their dirty deeds will become more acceptable to the frogs, boiling. An example is Their Media parading 11 year old Desmond Is Amazing on morning TV shows. Like gateway drugs. "Drag Queens in Libraries" (storytelling, for children) is another example, with one of them proudly proclaiming they are grooming the next generation. See how it works?

One pic showed a drag queen lying supine on a library floor with children lying on top of him. Grooming, apparently

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It appears they are doing both.

Why wouldnt they do both?

Except for the dirtiest, their dirty deeds will become more acceptable to the frogs, boiling. An example is Their Media parading 11 year old Desmond Is Amazing on morning TV shows. Like gateway drugs. "Drag Queens in Libraries" (storytelling, for children) is another example, with one of them proudly proclaiming they are grooming the next generation. See how it works?

One pic showed a drag queen lying supine on a library floor with children lying on top of him. Grooming, apparently

I think this has already been addressed. Perhaps you missed this post:

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This is the part I don't get: if the people in power really are part of an "ancient sex and death cult", and routinely engage in "multi-generational abuse of children", why is it that all forms of abuse against children have only become less acceptable and more illegal over time? Beating your kids used to be routine. Using kids for sexual purposes was widespread and public in places like Ancient Greece and Rome, and common in many other times and places. Hell, most places didn't even have laws against child pornography until incredibly recently. Child marriages were enshrined in many religions and societies.


If these people really were all that interested in child abuse, they had it. They had it all. Why did they ever let it go?
This business about drag queens in libraries is new to me, though. Not sure what the connection between transvestism and child abuse is. Are you claiming there is one?

Got a link? You clearly have unorthodox browsing habits, by the way: my own news feeds have never featured this. Is there something you wish to share with the group?
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Old 13th September 2019, 10:30 AM   #1616
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Nothing wrong with drag queens...unless you have latent feelings you're afraid to deal with...
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Nothing wrong with drag queens...unless you have latent feelings you're afraid to deal with...
I don't have any latent feelings, except total bewilderment.
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If you want someone to dress up like a sparkling Disney Princess and amaze your kids for hours with theatrical animation and self-positivity messaging, you want a drag queen.

Sad Clowns, Stepford Wives, and Soccer Moms can just sit right the hell down and take notes.
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I've seen all sorts of odd persons in libraries, and taken a bunch of kids to story times, but somehow, even though I live in Vermont where they would hardly raise an eyebrow, I've never run across a drag queen. My stepson is a librarian and he hasn't either. What's wrong with us? Are we out of touch, or do we need to move closer to the Bible Belt to find a place where fundie preachers do their drag queening in the one place they can depend on their followers never seeing them? Inquiring minds want to know! Where are these vaunted drag queens? Do they specialize in particular stories? The Red Shoes? The Tailor of Gloucester? The 500 Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins?
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Those wacky JW kooks are at it again...


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We have made public 90 pages of heavily redacted U.S. Department of State documents showing Obama State Department officials’ efforts to disseminate classified information to multiple U.S. Senators immediately prior to President Donald Trump’s inauguration.

The information, which included raw intelligence, purported to show “malign” Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. Among the senators receiving the classified documents were Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA), Sen. Ben Cardin (D-MD), and Sen. Robert Corker (R-TN).

New State Department Documents Reveal Last-Minute Efforts by Obama State Department to Undermine President Trump.

We obtained the documents through our June 2018 Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) lawsuit.
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
I think this has already been addressed. Perhaps you missed this post:



This business about drag queens in libraries is new to me, though. Not sure what the connection between transvestism and child abuse is. Are you claiming there is one?

Got a link? You clearly have unorthodox browsing habits, by the way: my own news feeds have never featured this. Is there something you wish to share with the group?
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Nothing wrong with drag queens...unless you have latent feelings you're afraid to deal with...
Originally Posted by bknight View Post
I don't have any latent feelings, except total bewilderment.
Originally Posted by Delphic Oracle View Post
If you want someone to dress up like a sparkling Disney Princess and amaze your kids for hours with theatrical animation and self-positivity messaging, you want a drag queen.

Sad Clowns, Stepford Wives, and Soccer Moms can just sit right the hell down and take notes.
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I've seen all sorts of odd persons in libraries, and taken a bunch of kids to story times, but somehow, even though I live in Vermont where they would hardly raise an eyebrow, I've never run across a drag queen. My stepson is a librarian and he hasn't either. What's wrong with us? Are we out of touch, or do we need to move closer to the Bible Belt to find a place where fundie preachers do their drag queening in the one place they can depend on their followers never seeing them? Inquiring minds want to know! Where are these vaunted drag queens? Do they specialize in particular stories? The Red Shoes? The Tailor of Gloucester? The 500 Hats of Bartholomew Cubbins?
Several posts later, Bubba responds to the discussion about his own post with....

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Those wacky JW kooks are at it again...

Yup. Irrelevance again.
Bubba, as people are being kind enough to comment on your posts, perhaps you could do us the courtesy of at least acknowledging it.
You could even have a stab at answering us.
Might make you look a little less like the deranged shouty man wandering the streets, that we all try to avoid.
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Got a search engine?


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my own news feeds have never featured this.

Pure gold.

Look outside that box you keep your mind in, for a change.
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Any day now credules . All those sealed indictments, all those mass arrests, Hillary and Obummer frog-marched off to Gitmo . . .

10s and 10s of you showed up for your "rally" the other day. Apparently these nuts were even too nutty for the other nuts.
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It appears they are doing both.

Why wouldnt they do both?

Except for the dirtiest, their dirty deeds will become more acceptable to the frogs, boiling. An example is Their Media parading 11 year old Desmond Is Amazing on morning TV shows. Like gateway drugs. "Drag Queens in Libraries" (storytelling, for children) is another example, with one of them proudly proclaiming they are grooming the next generation. See how it works?

One pic showed a drag queen lying supine on a library floor with children lying on top of him. Grooming, apparently
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This business about drag queens in libraries is new to me, though. Not sure what the connection between transvestism and child abuse is. Are you claiming there is one?

Got a link? You clearly have unorthodox browsing habits, by the way: my own news feeds have never featured this. Is there something you wish to share with the group?
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Got a search engine?
Your claim, your burden of proof.

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Pure gold.
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my own news feeds have never featured this.
Look outside that box you keep your mind in, for a change.
Just think about what you're saying here, Bubba. Just once. Please.
Your claim was that "Their Media" is grooming people to accept child abuse, by "parading" such things as "drag queens in libraries".
I said I had noticed no such thing.
Now, you want me to open my mind to pro-child abuse propaganda, by searching for it myself.

Seriously?

Why on earth would I want to- as you see it- brainwash myself into acceptance of child abuse? Why should I help the Evil Them in their diabolical plot, and why are you encouraging me to do so?

There is pure gold here, Bubba, but not where you thought it was.
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Why on earth would I want to- as you see it- brainwash myself into acceptance of child abuse? Why should I help the Evil Them in their diabolical plot, and why are you encouraging me to do so?

Good grief.

Please tell us you're being sarcastic, because you (should) know that becoming aware of a thing facilitates doing something about it, as in telling others, should you think others should know.

No matter what the issue, knowledge might matter, on election day, or to parents, in this case.

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No matter what the issue, knowledge might matter, on election day, or to parents, in this case.
quite right:

https://local.theonion.com/liberal-p...ith-1838094112

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“We’re committed to finding a school system that has well-paid, skilled drag queens who can provide our son with the kind of education he needs to be successful,” said Christopher, adding that the child’s current school has a ratio of only one drag queen for every 32 students, leaving little time for one-on-one instruction.
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Good grief.

Please tell us you're being sarcastic, because you (should) know that becoming aware of a thing facilitates doing something about it, as in telling others, should you think others should know.

No matter what the issue, knowledge might matter, on election day, or to parents, in this case.
Clearly you have yet to fully understand my point, so I will walk you through it in small steps.
You claim that there is a conspiracy to gradually increase acceptance of child abuse through a media propaganda campaign.
You desire me to look at this propaganda myself, and then share it with others.

This will have two possible results:
1. If I am utterly opposed to child abuse, and my friends are as well, then no amount of propaganda, and no amount of pictures of drag queens, will change that.
Net result: no change.
2. If my friends and I are the sort of gullible amphibians in your analogy, then we will be persuaded by the propaganda (the existence of which we were previously unaware), and become more tolerant of child abuse.
Net result: an increase of tolerance of child abuse.

The only possible outcome- literally, the only possible outcome- of doing what you suggest is an increase in the tolerance and acceptance of child abuse.
Why would you want this, Bubba? Why not curb the spread of this insidious evil by denying it the oxygen of publicity? Why turn yourself, and everyone you have contact with, into an unwitting pawn of this plot?
Can you see the consequences of your suggested actions now?

Just to be clear, this is all based on an acceptance for the sake of argument that this plot exists. Given your usual lack of any kind of supporting evidence, and the ludicrous and vanishingly unlikely conditions necessary for this being true, I do not, of course, believe it for one minute.
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Old 16th September 2019, 09:46 AM   #1629
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Clearly you have yet to fully understand my point, so I will walk you through it in small steps.
You claim that there is a conspiracy to gradually increase acceptance of child abuse through a media propaganda campaign.
You desire me to look at this propaganda myself, and then share it with others.

This will have two possible results:
1. If I am utterly opposed to child abuse, and my friends are as well, then no amount of propaganda, and no amount of pictures of drag queens, will change that.
Net result: no change.
2. If my friends and I are the sort of gullible amphibians in your analogy, then we will be persuaded by the propaganda (the existence of which we were previously unaware), and become more tolerant of child abuse.
Net result: an increase of tolerance of child abuse.

The only possible outcome- literally, the only possible outcome- of doing what you suggest is an increase in the tolerance and acceptance of child abuse.
Why would you want this, Bubba? Why not curb the spread of this insidious evil by denying it the oxygen of publicity? Why turn yourself, and everyone you have contact with, into an unwitting pawn of this plot?
Can you see the consequences of your suggested actions now?

Just to be clear, this is all based on an acceptance for the sake of argument that this plot exists. Given your usual lack of any kind of supporting evidence, and the ludicrous and vanishingly unlikely conditions necessary for this being true, I do not, of course, believe it for one minute.

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Old 17th September 2019, 01:45 AM   #1630
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Not nominated. At least, not in the nominations thread. Which is where things are nominated.
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Old 17th September 2019, 04:47 AM   #1631
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Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak View Post
Not nominated. At least, not in the nominations thread. Which is where things are nominated.
He meant Neknominated. You have to chug a 40 oz while standing atop your armored truck on the Hoover Dam bridge, demanding the release of the OIG report. make sure you drink every drop before the feds take you into custody or it doesn't count.
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Old 17th September 2019, 09:55 AM   #1632
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Over the years that ceased to be the case.

Between active authorized FBI wiretaps/bugging and the propensity of individuals facing serious prison time to trade off knowledge for time, all of the major figures that went to trial and were convicted over the last 30 - 40 years went down on felony crimes and conspiracy charges.

It is interesting that way back when Mickey Cohen got nabbed and convicted twice for income tax evasion - for a resourceful fella he was awful careless.
Also RICO being added changed things a bit too, so after 1970 things also changed.
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Q promoting English professor at Mesa Community College fired for teaching Q crap during class.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mesa-c...a=twitter_page

Despite all the promises by Q that the deep state and pedophile cabal will hang, only Qanon supporters are suffering consequences.
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
Q promoting English professor at Mesa Community College fired for teaching Q crap during class.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mesa-c...a=twitter_page

Despite all the promises by Q that the deep state and pedophile cabal will hang, only Qanon supporters are suffering consequences.
I'm sure the faithful believe they will be resurrected with the Second Coming of Trump.
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Old 18th September 2019, 05:33 AM   #1635
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Was this supposed to upset us? Not sharing information critical to the security of the United States with those with both the power and the inclination to actually do something to protect the United States would have been a Trumpian-level abdication of their duty to their nation.
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It appears they are doing both.

Why wouldnt they do both?

Except for the dirtiest, their dirty deeds will become more acceptable to the frogs, boiling. An example is Their Media parading 11 year old Desmond Is Amazing on morning TV shows. Like gateway drugs. "Drag Queens in Libraries" (storytelling, for children) is another example, with one of them proudly proclaiming they are grooming the next generation. See how it works?

One pic showed a drag queen lying supine on a library floor with children lying on top of him. Grooming, apparently
Two points on this.
Firstly, Bubba, you have yet to explain the connection you have made between cross-dressing and child abuse.
What is the connection?
Secondly, this is yet another example of the frankly quite annoying assumption that Merkuh is the only country.
The frog-boiling analogy only works if there is no other point of comparison. The plot would be immediately undone if travel to other countries outside the US was possible. Or if it was possible for others to travel to America. Or if it was possible to communicate with people outside the US.
All of which are possible. Add to that the fact that cross -dressing is illegal in some countries, so the campaign would simply not exist, and you have an inward-looking piece of paranoid garbage.
Again.
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If the rule of law is to survive, if America’s constitutional protections are to endure, it is essential to roll back the sinister secrecy that allows – indeed encourages – those operating in the Deep State to hold themselves above the law and beyond the Constitution.
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If the rule of law is to survive, if America’s constitutional protections are to endure, it is essential to roll back the sinister secrecy that allows – indeed encourages – those operating in the Deep State to hold themselves above the law and beyond the Constitution.
That reads like the opening narration for a bad History channel show. Is that the voice in your head or something?
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If the rule of law is to survive, if America’s constitutional protections are to endure, it is essential to roll back the sinister secrecy that allows – indeed encourages – those operating in the Deep State to hold themselves above the law and beyond the Constitution.
And yet we have Trump as our President, a man who wipes his backside with the Constitution every day. A man who bragged that the best thing about putting on the Miss Teen USA pageant each year was being to enter the dressing rooms to see the contestants undress.

Trump has also told the "Deep State" they can do whatever they want and if they get into trouble he'll pardon them.
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And yet we have Trump as our President, a man who wipes his backside with the Constitution every day. A man who bragged that the best thing about putting on the Miss Teen USA pageant each year was being to enter the dressing rooms to see the contestants undress.

Trump has also told the "Deep State" they can do whatever they want and if they get into trouble he'll pardon them.
Actually, I think Trump's group is the opposite of that. They're the "Shallow State".

I could only wish we had a Deep State controlling everything. To have done it successfully for so long, they'd have to be at least somewhat rational, trustworthy, and responsible.
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