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Old 19th August 2019, 01:28 AM   #81
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Trump Tweets

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Old 19th August 2019, 03:05 AM   #82
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
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WTF is this gobbledygook?!
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Old 19th August 2019, 03:37 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by AnonyMoose View Post

It's pretty obvious to me why Trump is taking a sudden interest in Greenland...

The Arctic is melting, opening up a whole slew of potential untapped oil reserves and other natural resources.
You are aware that the Arctic has no land mass, right? All of those nations would be rushing to chuck flags in the open sea, right?
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Old 19th August 2019, 03:39 AM   #84
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You are aware that the Arctic has no land mass, right? All of those nations would be rushing to chuck flags in the open sea, right?
Greenland would have the right to exploit the resources contained in its territorial waters.
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Old 19th August 2019, 03:45 AM   #85
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
Greenland would have the right to exploit the resources contained in its territorial waters.
And Greenland has told Small Hand Don to get bent.
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Old 19th August 2019, 03:53 AM   #86
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Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
WTF is this gobbledygook?!
I suspect strong psychotropic drugs were involved.
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Old 19th August 2019, 04:36 AM   #87
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This seems relevant.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9064066.html

Trump (or his rich backers) are paying people to attend his rallies.
Once it comes down to paying people to attend your rallies ... you lost. Period.

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Old 19th August 2019, 05:04 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by McHrozni View Post
This seems relevant.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9064066.html

Trump (or his rich backers) are paying people to attend his rallies.
Once it comes down to paying people to attend your rallies ... you lost. Period.

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The article speaks of the factory workers who were forced to attend. It's not the same as paying people for the rallies.
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Old 19th August 2019, 05:20 AM   #89
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Originally Posted by Lurch View Post
WTF is this gobbledygook?!
It just doesn't work very well in the quotes.

In 1990, Prince wrote a song (for a band called The Time)called Donald Trump (Black Version) about a theoretical black version of Trump.

It's not exactly a work of inspired genius, but what it has to do with whether Trump is racist or not is anyone's guess.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/prince-...black-version/
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Old 19th August 2019, 05:20 AM   #90
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Yes, I read how he "estimated" the capacities rather than actually counting heads too. So a couple of hundred difference out of 11,000+ is only a few percent. So he could have been out by a much bigger margin. But as you say, even if he was spot-on, what the effing hell does it matter!
He counted those in the arena, estimated those outside. The record and figure of 11,500 involved only those in the arena.

None of this matters much, but I don't see a darned thing fishy with the number in the arena at Trump's rally.
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Old 19th August 2019, 05:26 AM   #91
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The article speaks of the factory workers who were forced to attend. It's not the same as paying people for the rallies.
Right. Officially, it wasn't a rally (though it clearly was a political event, paid for by the taxpayers).
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The article speaks of the factory workers who were forced to attend. It's not the same as paying people for the rallies.
It's even worse than paying people. Also, Trump has paid people to attend his rallies before.

There is also the fact that Trump used an official government event as a rally, which is illegal.
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Old 19th August 2019, 05:48 AM   #93
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It's even worse than paying people. Also, Trump has paid people to attend his rallies before.
Yeah, like when he announced his candidacy. It isn't news.

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There is also the fact that Trump used an official government event as a rally, which is illegal.
Yeah, well nothing's going to come from that.
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Old 19th August 2019, 05:49 AM   #94
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Yeah, like when he announced his candidacy. It isn't news.



Yeah, well nothing's going to come from that.
Right. Nothing's going to come from that at all.
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Old 19th August 2019, 06:25 AM   #96
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Trump has repeatedly claimed that he was once awarded "Michigan Man Of The Year", although fact-checkers can find no evidence he ever was

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1162420575882678272

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Former GOP congressman Dave Trott calls to say Trump claimed to him that he was given the award at a Lincoln Day dinner Trott invited him to speak at in 2013. But Trott says there was no award, just a speech.

Trott says that Trump thanked him for the alleged award at a 2017 roundtable with auto CEOs. Trott says he wasn’t about to correct Trump in front of CEOs while in Congress, but now he’s out of office and doesn’t care, so he can say Trump made it up.

Trott adds that the speech was well-received. He also adds that Trump insisted he had to tell the press that it was the largest Oakland County Lincoln Day Dinner crowd ever, even though Trott told him he had no idea if that was true. He says Trump claimed CBS said it was.
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And Greenland has told Small Hand Don to get bent.

More in the Trump-to-visit-Denmark-on-Sep-2 thread.
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Greenland would have the right to exploit the resources contained in its territorial waters.
And how many divisions does Greenland have?
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And how many divisions does Greenland have?


The point I was trying to make was in response to the following exchange:

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It's pretty obvious to me why Trump is taking a sudden interest in Greenland...

The Arctic is melting, opening up a whole slew of potential untapped oil reserves and other natural resources.
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You are aware that the Arctic has no land mass, right? All of those nations would be rushing to chuck flags in the open sea, right?
Greenland having rights over a significant chunk of the Northern Atlantic and Arctic Oceans could be a reason for President Trump's interest (assuming that there's any rational explanation).
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Greenland would have the right to exploit the resources contained in its territorial waters.
They said that Greenland was not for sale, but that it was open for business. It's just that there's literally nothing there.
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You are aware that the Arctic has no land mass, right? All of those nations would be rushing to chuck flags in the open sea, right?
Perhaps you're being ironic and joking about a previous exchange? Anyway:
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And how many divisions does Greenland have?
As in Army?

Why is that important? Are you suggesting the USA should just take Greenland?
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Has anyone considered that Trump might have seen Greenland on a Mercator projection map, and he wants to buy it because it’s as big as Africa?
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Has anyone considered that Trump might have seen Greenland on a Mercator projection map, and he wants to buy it because it’s as big as Africa?
I posted that last week.
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Has anyone considered that Trump might have seen Greenland on a Mercator projection map, and he wants to buy it because it’s as big as Africa?
It crossed my mind.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
As in Army?

Why is that important? Are you suggesting the USA should just take Greenland?
It was just an attempt at humor, based on this...

In the waning days of WW II during a discussion of the future of Eastern Europe British Prime Minister Winston Churchill cautioned Joseph Stalin to consider the views of the Vatican. To this the Soviet leader responded “How many divisions does the Pope of Rome have?”

Stalin’s brutal sense of humor demonstrated that he only respected force. Since the Pope had nothing he feared or wanted Stalin would ignore him.
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I don't think the factory workers were denied pay if they didn't attend the rally.

The way I'm reading it everyone gets overtime pay due to the required hours they work. If someone didn't want to go, it was fine and even excused, but they wouldn't get the overtime pay. They would just get their standard paycheck since they weren't working.

No one was forced to go, just financially encouraged to attend.
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I don't think the factory workers were denied pay if they didn't attend the rally.

The way I'm reading it everyone gets overtime pay due to the required hours they work. If someone didn't want to go, it was fine and even excused, but they wouldn't get the overtime pay. They would just get their standard paycheck since they weren't working.

No one was forced to go, just financially encouraged to attend.
From what I read, those who didn't attend had to use one of their days off. They may not have directly lost money, but they had to use vacation time that they might have wanted to use (for example) on a trip.
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I don't think the factory workers were denied pay if they didn't attend the rally.

The way I'm reading it everyone gets overtime pay due to the required hours they work. If someone didn't want to go, it was fine and even excused, but they wouldn't get the overtime pay. They would just get their standard paycheck since they weren't working.

No one was forced to go, just financially encouraged to attend.

They were denied the overtime pay they regularly received due to the excused payed hours not counting to meeting the overtime threshold. That's how they were "financially encouraged to attend". They would have gotten less money the they normally do if they didn't attend.

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From what I read, those who didn't attend had to use one of their days off. They may not have directly lost money, but they had to use vacation time that they might have wanted to use (for example) on a trip.
I don't recall reading that they had to use paid time of, but just that it was an excused absence that was apparently paid. However like paid time off it doesn't count towards meeting the pre-overtime hours hence they don't get the normal overtime pay for the week if they didn't attend.
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From what I read, those who didn't attend had to use one of their days off. They may not have directly lost money, but they had to use vacation time that they might have wanted to use (for example) on a trip.
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They were denied the overtime pay they regularly received due to the excused payed hours not counting to meeting the overtime threshold. That's how they were "financially encouraged to attend". They would have gotten less money the they normally do if they didn't attend.
Yup, they weren't necessarily forced to go, but if they used PTO it wouldn't go towards their overtime pay. They also didn't have to use PTO since it was an excused absence, but they could if they still wanted pay for that time.

I'm not saying it isn't a ****** thing to do, just pointing out the details.

Per the memo:

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Your attendance is not mandatory. This will be considered an excused absence. However, those who are NOT in attendance will not receive overtime pay on Friday
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Thanks for the context.

This isn't an issue that deserves much thought and consideration. It is the teeniest of Trump's lies, if it's a lie.

But I'll point out that we're left with the testimony of a twitter user I don't know and a photo taken at an unknown time. I can't tell, but there appears to be no one at the podium. My image editor reports no EXIF data to determine the time (given a correctly set time on the camera).

On the other hand, we have the secondhand testimony of the fire marshal. I haven't bothered to look and see whether he said this publicly or not.

I tend to favor the latter, presuming it's being faithfully reported for now. I also tend to think deciding whether this is true or false isn't worth the time I've put into it already. If it's false, I reckon that it will end up on the Post's fact checker site. If it doesn't, then I'll presume it's true.
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Yup, they weren't necessarily forced to go, but if they used PTO it wouldn't go towards their overtime pay. They also didn't have to use PTO since it was an excused absence, but they could if they still wanted pay for that time.

I'm not saying it isn't a ****** thing to do, just pointing out the details.
Its even more complex than that:

https://www.post-gazette.com/busines...s/201908160113
Shell spokesman Ray Fisher explained that the workers onsite have a 56-hour workweek, with 16 hours of overtime built in. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work Friday, meeting the overtime threshold...

So you didn't have to use paid time off, but since automatic overtime was built into their pay structure, if you DIDN'T use the day as a paid time off, you would have lost pay.

So lets say you were a transexual black person married to a mexican immigrant (i.e. the type of person who would have the most reason to loath the president.) Your options are:
- Go to listen to Stubby McBonespurs speak
- Take a day of vacation (that you might have wanted to use for, you know, vacation)
- Take it as non-paid time off, which means you don't meet the regular threshold for overtime that they have built in to their pay structure, so that you're actually out of pocket
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Its even more complex than that:

https://www.post-gazette.com/busines...s/201908160113
Shell spokesman Ray Fisher explained that the workers onsite have a 56-hour workweek, with 16 hours of overtime built in. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work Friday, meeting the overtime threshold...

So you didn't have to use paid time off, but since automatic overtime was built into their pay structure, if you DIDN'T use the day as a paid time off, you would have lost pay.

So lets say you were a transexual black person married to a mexican immigrant (i.e. the type of person who would have the most reason to loath the president.) Your options are:
- Go to listen to Stubby McBonespurs speak
- Take a day of vacation (that you might have wanted to use for, you know, vacation)
- Take it as non-paid time off, which means you don't meet the regular threshold for overtime that they have built in to their pay structure, so that you're actually out of pocket
It is an amazing example of a president ******* over anyone who isn’t loyal by taking away workers means of living.

The sooner this ************ is assasinated the better.
Pence at least knows what laws are.
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
*snip brevity*
Thank you for the added detail. I didn't see that in the article I read.

Originally Posted by autumn1971 View Post
It is an amazing example of a president ******* over anyone who isn’t loyal by taking away workers means of living.

The sooner this ************ is assasinated the better.
Pence at least knows what laws are.
Well, I don't personally condone assassination as a means to an end because it would make him a martyr and would assuredly damage the Dems for the significant future. Everything he has done can be undone in the next election, and that would be the best means of moving forward. Donnie has done enough damage where I truly think it will motivate the public into voting him out of office. I also truly think that the GOP is working themselves into irrelevance as we speak. If Texas should turn blue, or almost any state that's red, then it would be a mortal blow to electing another GOP POTUS. They need every single red state and a few swings just to win.
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Anthony Scaramucci is a highly unstable “nut job” who was with other candidates in the primary who got shellacked, & then unfortunately wheedled his way into my campaign. I barely knew him until his 11 days of gross incompetence-made a fool of himself, bad on TV. Abused staff,...

....got fired. Wrote a very nice book about me just recently. Now the book is a lie? Said his wife was driving him crazy, “something big” was happening with her. Getting divorced. He was a mental wreck. We didn’t want him around. Now Fake News puts him on like he was my buddy!
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Trump Tweets

Great cohesion inside the Republican Party, the best I have ever seen. Despite all of the Fake News, my Poll Numbers are great. New internal polls show them to be the strongest we’ve had so far! Think what they’d be if I got fair media coverage!
Sure they do Donnie, sure they do. Also, if they're the strongest evah! then why does he need fair media coverage? This should say, "despite unfair media coverage", which leads me to believe that Trump is unsurprisingly full of ****.
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Its even more complex than that:

https://www.post-gazette.com/busines...s/201908160113
Shell spokesman Ray Fisher explained that the workers onsite have a 56-hour workweek, with 16 hours of overtime built in. That means those workers who attended Mr. Trump’s speech and showed up for work Friday, meeting the overtime threshold...

So you didn't have to use paid time off, but since automatic overtime was built into their pay structure, if you DIDN'T use the day as a paid time off, you would have lost pay.

So lets say you were a transexual black person married to a mexican immigrant (i.e. the type of person who would have the most reason to loath the president.) Your options are:
- Go to listen to Stubby McBonespurs speak
- Take a day of vacation (that you might have wanted to use for, you know, vacation)
- Take it as non-paid time off, which means you don't meet the regular threshold for overtime that they have built in to their pay structure, so that you're actually out of pocket
I have to correct a bit:

Vacation/PTO do not count as 'hours worked' for overtime calculations. So, if they didn't show, they lost 8 hours of overtime (at best).
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