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Old 13th June 2019, 05:06 PM   #4121
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Wrong, woo boy. What papers? Where are they shown to be in error? Did they see ice or didn't they? Stop lying, and actually present some evidence. Or a mechanism. Or some science. You can't because you are not capable of understanding any of the relevant science. Hence why you have been taken in by a bunch of lying, scientifically illiterate mythologists. I imagine that a complete ignorance of science and maths is a prerequisite for membership of the EU cult. You must fit right in!
You funny, jonesdave116 a special kind of funny.


Evidence that is coming in reinforcing the ELECTRIC COMET and putting HARD constraints on the dirtysnowball model, the first quantitative model (and the ONLY mainstream model)
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Old 13th June 2019, 05:31 PM   #4122
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's usual insane lies about posts and science and insane insult of A'Hearn.
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Old 13th June 2019, 05:32 PM   #4123
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's usual insane lies about his electric comet insanity which has no evidence and is still demented.
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Old 13th June 2019, 05:51 PM   #4124
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The observed minuscule amount of ice spontaneously formed from water vapour released via the ionisation of the rocky nucleus? That ice?

Well, he missed the charged dust for one. This is a heavy electron fluid.







Cometary Dust


This is from the EDM(lol) of the hydrated cometary rock.



Decas paper completely ignores this fact and so does jonesdave116, why?

All poor jonesy has left now is a couple antiquated papers from incomplete data that tries to fit that to the wrong model.

Lol indeed.
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I'm sorry? This is from somebody who believes in impossible woo, doesn't understand Jack about any relevant science, and has, after a decade and a half, presented no model, no mechanisms, no science and no evidence!
Ice is observed, woo boy, get over it. Thousands of tonnes blasted out of a miniscule hole in Tempel 1. That is when any sane person would have seen this EC crap for what it is. Unscientific, mythology-based garbage.
Go learn some science.
You are completely clueless joensdave116. I do feel for you.

You cant even work out a viable mechanism for the formation of jets! lol

After all these years and shed loads of data that just does not fit Whipple's model, the dirtysnowball (lol).

So funny to watch...
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Old 13th June 2019, 05:57 PM   #4125
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's usual insane lies about posts and science and insane insult of A'Hearn.

How is quoting A'Hearn an insult?

The man (A'Hearn) said our understanding is evolving toward mostly rock. this has been REINFORCED by Martin Pätzold using this scienz stuff with maths and all the guff you bang on about, but both reality check and jonesdave116 choose to ignore the evidence that contradicts Whipple's model.

You call that an insult?? you as funny as jonesdave116!
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's usual insanity. As explained many times before (see the above link), insane lies about what the deceased A'Hearn wrote are insane insults of A'Hearn.

No astronomer is insane enough to think comets are actual rock which is an essential part of the electric comet insanity Sol88 is spewing out.
Astronomers do not mean actual rock (the electric comet insanity Sol88 is spewing out) when they use geological terms to describe comets made of ices or dust. "Rock" on comets made of ices and dust is ices and dust.
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's persistent insane lies about mainstream ices and dust comet papers.
The Nucleus of comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko – Part I: The global view – nucleus mass, mass-loss, porosity, and implications by Pätzold et.al does not say that comets are rocks as in Sol88's electric comet insanity. It is about 1 comet strangely called 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko .

Sol88's insanity here from memory is that a section about a range of dust/ices ratios applies to all comets. ? Hundreds of lies from Sol88 over the last 10 years make it hard to recall a specific bit of inanity.

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... but both reality check and jonesdave116 choose to ignore the evidence that contradicts Whipple's model.
The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's usual insane lies about science and lies about posters.
Whipple's model does not exist as Whipple wrote it - there have been 70 years of scientific progress .
There is no evidence that contradicts the modern comet model - comets are still made of ices and dust. It may be that the average ratio between the ices and dust will change to dust dominating with more measurements. But maybe not.

Sol88's usual insanity that his delusions and lies about comets do anything except emphasize the electric comet insanity.

I and jonesdave116 cannot ignore evidence that does not exist !

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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's usual insanity. As explained many times before (see the above link), insane lies about what the deceased A'Hearn wrote are insane insults of A'Hearn.

No astronomer is insane enough to think comets are actual rock which is an essential part of the electric comet insanity Sol88 is spewing out.
Astronomers do not mean actual rock (the electric comet insanity Sol88 is spewing out) when they use geological terms to describe comets made of ices or dust. "Rock" on comets made of ices and dust is ices and dust.

Nope he meant rock, comet rock.


As is required by the ELECTRIC COMET.
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's persistent insane lies about mainstream ices and dust comet papers.
The Nucleus of comet 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko – Part I: The global view – nucleus mass, mass-loss, porosity, and implications by Pätzold et.al does not say that comets are rocks as in Sol88's electric comet insanity. It is about 1 comet strangely called 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko .

Sol88's insanity here from memory is that a section about a range of dust/ices ratios applies to all comets. ? Hundreds of lies from Sol88 over the last 10 years make it hard to recall a specific bit of inanity.


Pätzold et.al does not say that comets are rocks as in Sol88's electric comet insanity. It is about 1 comet strangely called 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko.


What did he say, then must of missed that bit.

Comets are stony agglomerations with little to no ice.

Ergo comets are MOSTLY ROCK. As the lying M.A’Hearn stated.
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's usual insane lies about science and lies about posters.
Whipple's model does not exist as Whipple wrote it - there have been 70 years of scientific progress .
There is no evidence that contradicts the modern comet model - comets are still made of ices and dust. It may be that the average ratio between the ices and dust will change to dust dominating with more measurements. But maybe not.

Sol88's usual insanity that his delusions and lies about comets do anything except emphasize the electric comet insanity.

I and jonesdave116 cannot ignore evidence that does not exist !

Ahhh the elusive MODERN COMET MODEL.

So not Whipple’s model as comets as mostly ice then?

Our understanding has been evolving towards mostly rock.

This MODERN COMET MODEL?

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You funny, jonesdave116 a special kind of funny.


Evidence that is coming in reinforcing the ELECTRIC COMET and putting HARD constraints on the dirtysnowball model, the first quantitative model (and the ONLY mainstream model)
There is no evidence in favour of the impossible electric comet woo. Zilch. It has failed. No EDM (lol), no discharges, no rock. Complete failure. Try again.
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You are completely clueless joensdave116. I do feel for you.

You cant even work out a viable mechanism for the formation of jets! lol

After all these years and shed loads of data that just does not fit Whipple's model, the dirtysnowball (lol).

So funny to watch...
There are numerous models for jet formation. Read the literature. And you certainly don't have any! Electric discharges! Lol. Show me these discharges in the magnetometer data. How many times do I have to ask? How many times are you going to run away? And what are the jets composed of? Whose model does it fit better? Whipple's, or the impossible garbage believed by the intellectually challenged loons of EU? No contest. Ice, dust and neutrals. Cold. You lose again.
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Pätzold et.al does not say that comets are rocks as in Sol88's electric comet insanity. It is about 1 comet strangely called 67P/Churyumov–Gerasimenko.


What did he say, then must of missed that bit.

Comets are stony agglomerations with little to no ice.

Ergo comets are MOSTLY ROCK. As the lying M.A’Hearn stated.
Nope. No rock. Never seen at a comet. Point to the discovery of rock in the literature. Wrong density. Wrong thermal inertia. Wrong strength. You failed.
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Nope he meant rock, comet rock.


As is required by the ELECTRIC COMET.
Which is a lie. Your idiotic woo specifically says that comets were blasted off of planets. Therefore you need planetary rock. There is none. Fail.
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Thought so.


Thousands of tonnes, lol... no mechanisms, no science and no evidence double



A'Hearn really threw you a curve ball mainstream.

You just need a big...
Stop lying. How many times have I linked to the paper where thousands of tonnes of ice were seen to be ejected from Tempel 1? How many times have you run away from it? Due to having no answers to an observation that killed your stupid woo stone dead a long time ago.
How many times have you been shown the results and images from Hartley 2, of ice in the jets, and ice floating around the comet? And how many times have you run away from it?
And how many times did the idiot Thornhill report these findings? Zero. And why would that be? So that he could keep clueless, scientifically illiterate followers, like you, believing in his mythology-based fairy tale.
You have precisely nothing. No science, no mechanisms, no evidence. You continually run away from the science, because, by definition, you do not understand it.
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For anybody interested in the real science still going on regarding laboratory comet experiments, see here;

https://twitter.com/cophylab

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8n...YLSZYww/videos
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Stop lying. How many times have I linked to the paper where thousands of tonnes of ice were seen to be ejected from Tempel 1? How many times have you run away from it? Due to having no answers to an observation that killed your stupid woo stone dead a long time ago.
How many times have you been shown the results and images from Hartley 2, of ice in the jets, and ice floating around the comet? And how many times have you run away from it?
And how many times did the idiot Thornhill report these findings? Zero. And why would that be? So that he could keep clueless, scientifically illiterate followers, like you, believing in his mythology-based fairy tale.
You have precisely nothing. No science, no mechanisms, no evidence. You continually run away from the science, because, by definition, you do not understand it.

Thousands of tonnes collected up and weighed?

Or model of floored assumptions?



It was a dust up not a gusher champ. Pitiful amounts have been observed at comet easily explained by water vapour released from rock, recondensing on the surface, as observed.

You can’t even explain the ice cliffs OBSERVED on the surface of Tempel 1.

Because they are not ice cliffs, that is active EDM. We observe this on Io as well.

Common as ******* this process and it once happen here, in human history.

But you are more than free to practice your religion.




A’Hearn still said comets are MOSTLY ROCK.

Build a bridge and get over it dude.
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For anybody interested in the real science still going on regarding laboratory comet experiments, see here;

https://twitter.com/cophylab

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8n...YLSZYww/videos

Where the plasma and charged dust?

And where is there ice on the surface of a comet? We’ve observed frost patches from the mechanism I’ve explained above.

Incomplete first grader experiment.

Stick the mostly ice comet under 10cm dust...no sublimation possible.

Go read up on the “Activity Paradox”.

Dirtysnowball lol
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Thousands of tonnes collected up and weighed?

Or model of floored assumptions?



It was a dust up not a gusher champ. Pitiful amounts have been observed at comet easily explained by water vapour released from rock, recondensing on the surface, as observed.

You can’t even explain the ice cliffs OBSERVED on the surface of Tempel 1.

Because they are not ice cliffs, that is active EDM. We observe this on Io as well.

Common as ******* this process and it once happen here, in human history.

But you are more than free to practice your religion.




A’Hearn still said comets are MOSTLY ROCK.

Build a bridge and get over it dude.
What the hell are you prattling on about now? The ice was seen. Get over it. There is no FLAWED (learn to spell) model. That is just the opinion of a scientifically illiterate layman with quasi-religious beliefs based around misinterpreted mythology. Of no relevance at all. Has never been written up, and never will be. You would need to learn to spell first, and then spend a number of years studying actual science.



And it wasn't a dust up, you liar. Read the literature, instead of relying on the liar Thornhill quoting press releases just hours after the event, from one instrument. The ice was seen by three separate instruments. And nobody has questioned their conclusions. Other than irrelevant, unqualified, wooists.

EDM! Lol. Sorry, where is the signature of EDM from any comet mission? Please point to it, before lying about impossible things happening. We see the ice in the retreating cliffs at 67P. You lose again.

And you are not getting water out of rock. Impossible at those temperatures.

So, you are still batting zero. No evidence, no mechanisms, no science. Strike out. Go play on an astrology forum or something more befitting your total lack of scientific knowledge.
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A’Hearn still said comets are MOSTLY ROCK.
Then he must have referenced this heretofore never detected rock. Where is it? He referenced some papers, but none of them detected rock, because there isn't any. Wrong density, wrong strength, wrong thermal inertia. You lose again. However, you must be getting used to it by now!
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Where the plasma and charged dust?

And where is there ice on the surface of a comet? We’ve observed frost patches from the mechanism I’ve explained above.

Incomplete first grader experiment.

Stick the mostly ice comet under 10cm dust...no sublimation possible.

Go read up on the “Activity Paradox”.

Dirtysnowball lol
What the hell has plasma got to do with sublimation? Go get an education. And who said the ice was 10cm below the surface? Still batting zero, woo boy. Oh, and you don't have a mechanism for water production. It failed, remember? No EDM woo (lol), and no solar wind H+ to impossibly combine with non-existent O-. Let's be honest - who could possibly be stupid enough to fall for that garbage, anyway? (rhetorical)
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Now, perhaps whoever starboy is/ was can answer the following;
  • What sort of rock are we dealing with? Where is it detected? What is its density? What is its thermal inertia? What is its strength?
  • Where is this radial field from the Sun? Where has it been detected? What is causing it? What is it doing?
  • What is this 'EM stress'? What phenomena is it responsible for? How is it achieving this? How would we detect it?
  • Why would a circular or elliptical orbit make a difference? Which highly elliptical asteroids are seen to be comet-like? Why are the few active asteroids on circular orbits?

The internet never forgets. There is plenty more out there.

https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showthr...506#post899506
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's usual insane insults of astronomers. No astronomer is demented enough to believe in Sol88's electric comet insanity.

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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's usual insane insults of astronomers. No astronomer is demented enough to believe in Sol88's electric comet insanity.
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Old 16th June 2019, 02:12 PM   #4146
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.
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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's usual insane lies about science. This post is the demented lie that we cannot detect anything at comets because we apply the laws of electromagnetism to empirical evidence. Spectroscopy has been around for close to 200 years, maybe 150 years as textbook astronomy.

The demented part is that this is the electric comet insanity thread. Sol88 is denying the laws of electromagnetism !

Sol88's usual insane insults of astronomers.

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The usual insane lies, delusions, insults, etc. already addressed over the last 10 years.

Sol88's usual insane lies about posts. The insanity here is that a For anybody interested in the real science still going on regarding laboratory comet experiments, see here has to be about the entire field of cemetery science !

Sol88's usual insane lies about comets. We detect ices on comet surfaces under condition that means they are sublimating.

Sol88's usual insane lies about basic science. This is Sol88's pathetic lie that surface layers stop ices under then from heating up and sublimating. This is something any cook can say is insanely wrong, e.g. baked potatoes do not have stone cold interiors!

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