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Old 17th November 2018, 08:55 AM   #401
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Originally Posted by WilliamSeger View Post
As of November 6, we have passed peak Trumpism, at least: 54 of the 75 GOP candidates that Trump endorsed lost, and losing the House means the MAGA legislative agenda is dead. Anyone still imagining that Trump can win in 2020 and the GOP can hold the Senate must also be imagining some unexpected change in the current vector. You can hope for that, but two things should be clear by now: Trump just can't stop Trumping, and his base is as large as it will ever be.
Some Republicans may see the light. Far more will increase their efforts to destroy democratic processes in the USA through gerrymandering, voter suppression, and the like.
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Old 9th December 2018, 09:26 AM   #402
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Maybe now?
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Old 9th December 2018, 09:49 AM   #403
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
Maybe now?
Must make you feel mighty good that 1 to 2 years ago, some folk on the internet were wrong. It's nice that you regularly remind us.

As some have said, "Time well spent."
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Old 11th December 2018, 07:25 AM   #404
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With Trump's pick for Chief of staff turning him down, at least in the eyes of some political operatives he has passed his peak.
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2019 and Trump is still president, who'da thunk it.

Maybe Trump will pass Peak this year.
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Old 1st January 2019, 05:14 PM   #406
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I don't know about anybody else, but I certainly reached Peak Trump some time ago.

Please, America, make it stop.
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Old 17th May 2019, 05:01 PM   #407
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Has it passed yet?
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Old 17th May 2019, 05:11 PM   #408
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
Has it passed yet?
We may well be past the point of no return.
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Old 17th May 2019, 05:24 PM   #409
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I passed something quite akin to Trump this morning.
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Old 17th May 2019, 05:29 PM   #410
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
I passed something quite akin to Trump this morning.
I have toilet tissue with Trump's face on it which comes in quite handy for certain situations such as you describe.
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Old 29th May 2019, 09:36 AM   #411
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Trump innocent.

Peak still not passed.

lol
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Old 29th May 2019, 09:46 AM   #412
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
Trump innocent.
I see even simple things have you confused.
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Old 29th May 2019, 09:57 AM   #413
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I see even simple things have you confused.
:and other replies to you-know-who (not the Harry Potter kind):

You know, if you see someone just spamming the forum, you should probably just ignore them or report them for breaking Rule 6 and Rule 11. For everything else there's ignore lists.

Remember when you were in school and there was always this one guy who had to shout random, weird things during class discussion to get attention? You didn't all stop your discussion and tell him how he was wrong or attention-craving, you just ignored him in the hope he would eventually grow up .
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Old 29th May 2019, 11:47 AM   #414
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:and other replies to you-know-who (not the Harry Potter kind):

You know, if you see someone just spamming the forum, you should probably just ignore them or report them for breaking Rule 6 and Rule 11. For everything else there's ignore lists.

Remember when you were in school and there was always this one guy who had to shout random, weird things during class discussion to get attention? You didn't all stop your discussion and tell him how he was wrong or attention-craving, you just ignored him in the hope he would eventually grow up .
Hallelujah and amen to that!
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Old 29th May 2019, 12:12 PM   #415
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You know, if you see someone just spamming the forum, you should probably just ignore them or report them for breaking Rule 6 and Rule 11. For everything else there's ignore lists.
You really think he's going to get infracted for off-topic trolling after all these years?
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Old 5th October 2019, 09:50 AM   #416
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Ah, yep.
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Old 5th October 2019, 11:03 AM   #417
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
Trump innocent.

Peak still not passed.

lol
OJ innocent.

lol?

(I don't generally speak lol-ese, but when in Rome...)
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OJ innocent.

lol?

(I don't generally speak lol-ese, but when in Rome...)
Hillary innocent.

lol.

(Alternatively, be the change you want to see in the world.)
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Hillary innocent.

lol.

(Alternatively, be the change you want to see in the world.)
Except I'm mocking, not doing. Way to miss the point.
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Originally Posted by applecorped View Post
Trump innocent.

Peak still not passed.

lol
Who cares if he's innocent? All that matters is that he's no longer president. Over half the voters are now in favor of impeachment. The Russian whore you're so enamored of only won by 88,000 votes in three states. Most of them skewed older so some of them have died since then (which is the best thing they can do for the country, Trump voters aren't valuable). If he's hurt enough to lose the election by impeachment, that's all that matters. The Ends Justify the Means.
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Old 7th October 2019, 12:28 AM   #421
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Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office?
Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings?

No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right?

Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections?
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2020 will be about sapping enthusiasm for Trump: anything concrete Dems can point to will help with that, any good excuse for traditional Republicans to stay at home.
But it will take a thrashing at the ballot box for GOP leadership to gather the courage to denounce Trump openly and permanently.
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Old 7th October 2019, 02:48 AM   #423
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Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office?
Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings?

No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right?

Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections?

Deploraphobia n. : Irrational fear of Trump's 40% base.

No matter how energized they are, they only get to vote once.
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We have reached peak Trump. I've called it.
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Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energise them for the elections?
I don't think it matters, they will claim persecution and be energized whether or not Trump is impeached by the House.
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Where as Hillary voters voted twice and sometimes three times
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Where as Hillary voters voted twice and sometimes three times
Good joke. 6/10.
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Good joke. 6/10.
And I think he stole that line from Leo De Capio in Scorsese's "Gangs Of New York".
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Where as Hillary voters voted twice and sometimes three times
Just another lie.
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Is an impeachment actually likely to get him out of office?
Probably not (at least not directly), since republicans in the Senate are unlikely to vote him out.
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Or is it just an inconvenient media/legal circus that ties down the accused during proceedings?
Trump has been a very corrupt and destructive individual.

Impeachment proceedings can do 3 things (any of which will be beneficial)
- It might force him out of office. (The chance is tiny, but it still exists)
- By highlighting some of his corrupt behavior, it gives added knowledge to the electorate in the next election, so that even if he's not forced out within the next year, there is a better chance he'll lose in 2020.
- It may help 'tie him down', if Republicans decide that the added attention of impeachment necessitates them actually cracking down on Trump.

Now, there is a chance he may become more unstable over time, but given how bad he was before, I can't really see things getting much worse.
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No presidency has ever been ended by this procedure, right?
Nixon resigned, but he would not have left office were it not for the impeachment proceedings.
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Would it not just feed the -already substantial- persecution fantasy of Trump's base and energize them for the elections?
There is a chance that some people who might have liked Trump are encouraged to vote instead of sitting out the 2020 election. But there's also a chance it will energize people who might have sat out thinking "Trump ain't so bad" to make them think "Ok, this guy really does need to be removed".
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Do we even have a definition of "peak Trump"?
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The point at which everything goes downhill for him. Much easier to see in retrospect but harder to see at the time.
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The fact that Trump's excusers are fighting a rearguard action on everything he does is a good indication that the Trump Train is running out of steam: he is under siege and it's a question of when, not if.
Republicans just hope that the When will be after 2020.
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The fact that Trump's excusers are fighting a rearguard action on everything he does is a good indication that the Trump Train is running out of steam: he is under siege and it's a question of when, not if.
Republicans just hope that the When will be after 2020.
Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.
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Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.
maybe.
But if you look at the right wing/alt-right media, it's clear that there is no longer an enthusiasm for Trump: 2020 can at best be a vote against a Democrat, not one for Trump.
In 2016, Trump managed to mobilize a lot of otherwise passive voters; all that Democrats need in 2020 is for those Republicans to stay home.
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maybe.
But if you look at the right wing/alt-right media, it's clear that there is no longer an enthusiasm for Trump: 2020 can at best be a vote against a Democrat, not one for Trump.
In 2016, Trump managed to mobilize a lot of otherwise passive voters; all that Democrats need in 2020 is for those Republicans to stay home.
The Alt-Right has been bamboozled by Trump.

They thought they were getting a wall and a return to 1920's immigration policy.

The only promise he's somewhat kept is that he has not expanded military adventures. (The Alt-Right thinks that all wars are wars for Israel, even Afghanistan).
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The Alt-Right has been bamboozled by Trump.

They thought they were getting a wall and a return to 1920's immigration policy.

The only promise he's somewhat kept is that he has not expanded military adventures. (The Alt-Right thinks that all wars are wars for Israel, even Afghanistan).
And even they have been less bamboozled than the Fundies, who think Trump is nigh upon the second coming of Christ, personally chosen by Gawd to establish his Dominion over the world. I'm a better Christian than Trump, and I'm an atheist.
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And even they have been less bamboozled than the Fundies, who think Trump is nigh upon the second coming of Christ, personally chosen by Gawd to establish his Dominion over the world. I'm a better Christian than Trump, and I'm an atheist.
I know Muslims that are better Christians than Trump.
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Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.

Sorry, but that this is going to blow over quickly is just plain wrong.
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Give it a couple of weeks, the current set of "scandals" will have blow over and most of the electorate will have forgotten that they have ever happened or remembered a different version.

President Trump's approval will be back to exactly where it's been for the last 3 years.
You mean that whopping 35 percent approval rating?

Sorry Don. Not even close. The public House hearing will go on for at least the next 2 months. Then we get the Senate Trial.
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