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I meant as a general description of failure of authorities generally, not a specific office.
Teenagers were allowed to fly to Turkey, leaving from the UK. That strikes me as a failure of the government. Of course they also fail, far more commonly sadly, to prevent female genital mutilation both in the UK and with trips abroad from the UK (I think I read recently that the first case, ever, in the UK has just been brought - despite thousands of victims annually). |
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"I mean, you've got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a story-book, man," Biden said. 2007 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna16911044 |
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"I mean, you've got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a story-book, man," Biden said. 2007 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna16911044 |
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"I mean, you've got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a story-book, man," Biden said. 2007 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna16911044 |
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All of this she was a teenager, they all do silly things idea I've seen floating about on the t'internet is a bit daft.
When you're a silly teen, you nick a tenner from your mum's purse and go out and buy some cheap cigarettes and Mad Dog 20/20, you don't run off to the badlands of the Middle-East and join a backwards terrorist organization. Frankly, I'd rather see bubonic plague back on our streets than this little knobhead. |
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AFAIK child protection services in the UK are as good as anywhere in the world. That's not really been the problem with the youngest of UK Muslims that have got themselves into trouble with the law due to extremist Islamic activities. The problem has been that they have either grown up in Muslim families where the parents &/or older brothers and sisters have expressed support for Islamist groups like IS and Al-Qaeda inc. vocal support even for the people who carried out attacks such as the 2005 London Tube Bombings (and where at the same time they were also being highly critical of the UK support for any military response in Islamic lands against people like Bin Laden and groups like IS). Or else, where the younger children were not getting that example from the parents and wider family, they were certainly getting it from the internet ... not just from deliberate mass propaganda sites created by groups like IS, but far more simply and more directly from other Muslim kids all across the UK who like to express a lot of bravado about how they would “behead all those who insult Islam” … that's a quote from placards held up by Muslims at a London street protest. It's impossible for “child protection services” anywhere (in any country) to keep track, monitor, or even have any knowledge at all of what those kids are experiencing in situations like that at home or on the internet. |
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The criteria now for making someone stateless,
Someone who is presumably groomed at 15, who was born in England and ran away to shag a ISIS dude, and they have no evidence of any other crimes. No day in court, and presumably no possibility of appeal. Lovely Does this extend to kids groomed into getting caught up in sex slavery? |
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She is a dual national with both Bangladeshi and British citizenship, which means the British can strip her of citizenship without making her stateless.
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Under the laws of Bangladesh she is a citizen of their country because her mother is Bangladeshi.
"Bangladeshi citizenship is provided primarily jus sanguinis, or through bloodline, irrespectively of the place or legitimacy of the birth.[2] Therefore, any person born to a Bangladeshi woman illegitimately outside Bangladeshi soil would still be a Bangladeshi citizen, whereas a person born to two non-nationals in Bangladesh would not. " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bangla...#Jus_Sanguinis |
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The action (travelling to Syria to join IS in the middle of a deadly war) seems extreme to us ("daft"). But it clearly does not seem at all "daft" to many young impressionable Muslims all across Europe (more have travelled from France and Germany than from the UK). The reason why it does not seem to be extreme or crazy to them, is because they believe that God ("Allah") is very strongly on the side of IS and not at all on the side of anyone who opposes what groups like IS are trying to achieve ... i.e. what they would call "pure religious states free from the crude sexuality & debauchery of the west (they're extremely concerned, outraged, about that, apparently) and free from all manner of un-Godly behaviour" etc.). They believe that the holy book has given them the unarguable word of God himself commanding them to play their part in a physical jihad (i.e. an all-out war) against all those who oppose Islam. Like all the thousands of others, Shamima Begum seems to have believed that her most honest obedience to God was to help IS in whatever way she could. If you are totally immersed in that religious Islamic belief, then it's not “daft” at all to join IS and to give your life for God. In fact it's the only honest godly choice. They really do believe that. |
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This evenings news is (BBC) that Shamima Begum's lawyer has just confirmed that today her parents received a letter from the UK Home Office confirming that Shamima is to be stripped of her British Citizenship -
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Oh well
No skin off my nose at the end of the day Just doesn't pass the sniff test for me, a reason for a country to disown one of their own citizens, born there. Would probably think differently if it was someone who moved over and got UK citizenship and they were just taking it off her. But if you are going to start doing this please leave my right to abode in the UK alone as it means I get shorter cues, at Heathrow when going on holiday!! |
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