|
Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today. |
![]() |
#121 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 50,493
|
|
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein. |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#122 |
Scholar
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: Oshkosh Wisconsin
Posts: 56
|
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#123 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 20,579
|
|
__________________
"Reality is what's left when you cease to believe." Philip K. Dick |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#124 |
Scholar
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 102
|
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#125 |
Maledictorian
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 14,855
|
We shouldn't overlook the evidence that the virus will only those with traces of Alien Reptile DNA - or those without Alien Reptile DNA, one of those two.
|
__________________
The things that you're liable To read in the Bible It ain't necessarily so |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#126 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 50,493
|
Idris Elba warns about phony COvid 19 conspiracy theories.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/18/enter...ate/index.html |
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein. |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#127 |
"más divertido"
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: USA! USA!
Posts: 22,856
|
No worries, it only affects the Mongols.
https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_m...353-O9wUV.html (in russian)
Originally Posted by daily beast
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#128 |
Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 6,020
|
This channel cant seem to decide whether its caused by 5G https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZeK8CPA01o&t=847s
Or its a Bio Weapon manufactured by USA in Texas https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQnVA_pxonM&t=109s A really crap bio weapon that only kills elderly and seriously ill people. |
__________________
"I achieve these results through a mixture of magic,misdirection,suggestion and showmanship"-Derren Brown
|
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#129 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 50,493
|
|
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein. |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#130 |
Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 6,020
|
Help me understand this:Corona virus was patented in 2014 ???https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/en
|
__________________
"I achieve these results through a mixture of magic,misdirection,suggestion and showmanship"-Derren Brown
|
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#131 |
Illuminator
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Where there's never a road broader than the back of your hand.
Posts: 4,000
|
|
__________________
Fortuna Faveat Fatuis |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#132 |
NWO Kitty Wrangler
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 29,124
|
The explanation is right there in the abstract:
Quote:
This is an increasingly common CT when it comes to the latest viral outbreaks. Any earlier attempt to create or patent a vaccine is held up as proof that it was "engineered", or that they "knew it was going to happen" before the outbreak occurred. I first saw it with the H1N1 swine flu, but it's pretty much a standard feature of CTs now. The key factor here is that "coronavirus", like "H1N1" before it, isn't a name unique to the particular virus we're dealing with right now, it describes an entire class of viruses, that have been generally known for many years. This provides a plethora of cites that CTists can use to "prove" their claims to people who don't understand the terminology*. *For the record, that included me when I first encountered this. But I knew enough to ask about it, rather than just running around screaming that "They're coming for us!" |
__________________
Obviously, that means cats are indeed evil and that ownership or display of a feline is an overt declaration of one's affiliation with dark forces. - Cl1mh4224rd |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#133 |
Maledictorian
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 14,855
|
Is it a coincidence that the outbreak will cause Easter to get effectively cancelled?
Clearly, Jesus was about to return, and this is a last-ditch effort by Satan to stop him. |
__________________
The things that you're liable To read in the Bible It ain't necessarily so |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#134 |
Graduate Poster
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,237
|
I recently found the following link - http://www.centerforhealthsecurity.o.../scenario.html - , about something called "Event 201" which is described as follows:
Quote:
Quote:
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#135 |
No longer the 1
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 24,270
|
|
__________________
As human right is always something given, it always in reality reduces to the right which men give, "concede," to each other. If the right to existence is conceded to new-born children, then they have the right; if it is not conceded to them, as was the case among the Spartans and ancient Romans, then they do not have it. For only society can give or concede it to them; they themselves cannot take it, or give it to themselves. |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#136 |
Sarcastic Conqueror of Notions
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 30,416
|
Originally Posted by William Parcher
Here's a CT for you: That is pushed by China (actually, true. They even summoned the Chinese ambassador to the WH to WTF him) to divert from China actually having created it, and released it accidentally...or not accidentally. |
__________________
"Great innovations should not be forced [by way of] slender majorities." - Thomas Jefferson The government should nationalize it! Socialized, single-payer video game development and sales now! More, cheaper, better games, right? Right? |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#137 |
Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 6,020
|
Not really a CT although CTs could adopt it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivors_(1975_TV_series)
Quote:
![]() |
__________________
"I achieve these results through a mixture of magic,misdirection,suggestion and showmanship"-Derren Brown
|
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#138 |
Illuminator
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Olomouc, Czech Republic
Posts: 3,214
|
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#139 |
Graduate Poster
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 1,237
|
What is it that's the "plot of a movie, Contagion", what's really going on in the world now or what I posted about Event 201?
Contagion doesn't involve a coronavirus (the inspiration for the virus in Contagion was Nipah virus and the movie specifically says it's a paramyxovirus) or an outbreak in Brazil. It does say the virus went from bats to pigs to humans, similar to the scenario in Event 201, but beyond that it's only superficially the same scenario as either, in that it's a virus pandemic that spreads out of control. I've no doubt it's just a coincidence, I'm sure plenty of simulations and role-playing exercises have been done by govt. agencies, universities, think tanks, etc. where a deadly new flu strain, SARS-like coronavirus, nipah virus, etc. or other scary infectious agents were imagined as the causal agent. I'm not sure what point you're making about the movie Contagion. |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#140 |
Graduate Poster
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,332
|
That basic idea is older than Contagion, the plot of the 1970s BBC TV serial 'Survivors' was based around a disease with a 99% kill rate. It's never stated in the episodes proper where it came from, but the title sequence (Which can be found on YouTube.) implies it was an accidental release from a Chinese bio-weapons lab. The 2000s reboot of the series used the 'attempt to create a vaccine created a killer virus' plot line, which is one that pops up in quite a few earlier series, 'Seven Days' a 1990s time travel series had one episode where the heroes are trying to save someone who has come up with a cure for cancer. The person trying to kill them has come from the future where the 'cure' has mutated into a killer virus. Quite simply plotlines of this type have been bubbling along ever since the 1975 swine flu scare. |
__________________
"I need hard facts! Bring in the dowsers!" 'America Unearthed' Season 1, Episode 13: Hunt for the Holy Grail Everybody gets it wrong sometimes... |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#141 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 50,493
|
|
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein. |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#142 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 50,493
|
And along time before that.
Jack London wrote a story about a plague that wipes out 99% of Mankind called "The Scarlet Plague". George Stewart wrote a novel called "Earth Abides" in the 1950's about the aftermath of a pandemic that wipes out all but a very few of mankind.. |
__________________
Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty. Robert Heinlein. |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#143 |
"más divertido"
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: USA! USA!
Posts: 22,856
|
The conspiracies are a little hard to keep straight.
youtube video where Ann Vandersteel declares that the COVID-19 coronavirus is a “biological agent” that Bill Gates and the Chinese government launched on the world. Also God.
Quote:
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#144 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 13,895
|
|
__________________
/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#145 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 20,579
|
|
__________________
"Reality is what's left when you cease to believe." Philip K. Dick |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#146 |
Hipster Doofus
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Nutsack, FL
Posts: 2,189
|
So, because of us fornicating Americans, god smites over 86,000 Italians?
That sounds about right. |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#147 |
"más divertido"
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: USA! USA!
Posts: 22,856
|
Transitive Property, Papist edition.
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#148 |
Philosopher
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 8,469
|
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#149 |
Muse
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 987
|
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/28/t...q0_5uAkVkc3Zo4
Conspiracy theorists are now claiming Dr Fauci is part of the Deep State. |
__________________
There is nothing as deceptive as an obvious fact. |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#150 |
Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 6,020
|
"Its nothing to do with avirus its medical martial law"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=th5W...nI&app=desktop Why so many nutters? A facebook friend passed this on to me,thats second "friend" this week,first one was 5G. |
__________________
"I achieve these results through a mixture of magic,misdirection,suggestion and showmanship"-Derren Brown
|
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#151 |
No longer the 1
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 24,270
|
|
__________________
As human right is always something given, it always in reality reduces to the right which men give, "concede," to each other. If the right to existence is conceded to new-born children, then they have the right; if it is not conceded to them, as was the case among the Spartans and ancient Romans, then they do not have it. For only society can give or concede it to them; they themselves cannot take it, or give it to themselves. |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#152 |
Merchant of Doom
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Not in Hell, but I can see it from here on a clear day...
Posts: 14,449
|
|
__________________
History does not always repeat itself. Sometimes it just yells "Can't you remember anything I told you?" and lets fly with a club. - John w. Campbell |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#153 |
Penultimate Amazing
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 13,895
|
|
__________________
/dann "Stupidity renders itself invisible by assuming very large proportions. Completely unreasonable claims are irrefutable. Ni-en-leh pointed out that a philosopher might get into trouble by claiming that two times two makes five, but he does not risk much by claiming that two times two makes shoe polish." B. Brecht "The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions." K. Marx |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#154 |
Evil Fokker
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 13,243
|
So #filmyourhospital is now a thing on twitter with the conspiracy nutter-butters. They go around selectively filming hospitals in quiet areas or random empty parking lots and decry the virus as a hoax. Meanwhile they complain about the lack of media coverage in emergency rooms whilst failing to realize that hospitals don't like you to film video on their property due to privacy concerns.
But when did privacy concerns every stop a conspiracy kook? |
__________________
www.spectrum-scientifics.com <- My store of science toys, instruments and general fun! Thanks for helping me win Best Toys in Philly Voter in 2011,2012, and 2014! We won' be discussing the disappointment that was 2013. |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#155 |
Philosopher
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 6,020
|
Does anyone know when the NWO is actually coming?
Every twoofer video on X subject claims that X is preperation for NWO,I recall 9/11(my first dip into conspiracies) being blamed on NWO. 19 years on and still waiting. |
__________________
"I achieve these results through a mixture of magic,misdirection,suggestion and showmanship"-Derren Brown
|
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#156 |
Illuminator
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Olomouc, Czech Republic
Posts: 3,214
|
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#157 | |||
Master Poster
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Sometimes
Posts: 2,133
|
Some things never change.
Critical thinking? Meh. That takes dedication. It's natural to fall in love with your own bias. And reality is boring, comparatively speaking. Has this video appeared yet?
Someone sent this on a Whatsapp group, and everyone was saying things like "oh, they're going to kill him" or "goosebumps". Me: "Sorry, I'm going to burst this bubble". I know. It's less exciting. It doesn't look like a John Carpenter movie with which people can air their frustrations but... I don't know, I enjoy having that role among my friends. |
|||
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#158 |
Illuminator
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: United States
Posts: 4,958
|
Seeing more and more of the long discredited (and it's only been a few months) conspiracy theories about "novel coronavirus" used in a simulation last year in my social media feed.
No **** there's a template for new viruses. Shows you can create foreknowledge out of anything, as CT tradition shows. |
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#159 |
Philosopher
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 8,469
|
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
#160 |
NWO Kitty Wrangler
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 29,124
|
The wonderful thing about fighting fake enemies is, you can just create fake victories any time you like. The NWO failed to take over the world just after 9/11? Well, thank your local Truther, they caught the bastards and foiled their plans! Just substitute 9/11 with any other CT you're wondering about. The truthers have won them all! |
__________________
Obviously, that means cats are indeed evil and that ownership or display of a feline is an overt declaration of one's affiliation with dark forces. - Cl1mh4224rd |
|
![]() ![]() |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
![]() |
Bookmarks |
Thread Tools | |
|
|