(Ed) Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories....

[Dr.Sid]

Originally Posted by Axxman300

A few years ago I went back to college. One of the things we learned in Environmental Science was we could expect more pandemics as animal viruses make the jump to humans. Predicting a pandemic is like predicting earthquakes in California, Japan, or Indonesia. There's a 50/50 chance of being right any day of the week.

If it was true, the governements all over the world would be ready. But they are not !? So it must be an act of GOD !

[Trebuchet]

When I checked Worldometer earlier today the number of new deaths in the USA ended in 666! Coincidence? What do YOU think, Sheeple!
Oh, and don't forget the epicenter is (((NYC)))!

[PartSkeptic]

A Harvard study links air pollution to bad covid-19 outcomes.

Guess what is also likely to coexist with air pollution?

Cell phone microwave electrosmog. Some defenders of Telcos will say that there are studies linking air pollution to illness, and I will say that there are studies linking electrosmog to illness - choose who you decide to believe. It is like the early days of the climate change debate.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hs...9-death-rates/

People with COVID-19 who live in U.S. regions with high levels of air pollution are more likely to die from the disease than people who live in less polluted areas, according to a new nationwide study from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

[Pixel42]

Well let's see.

Air pollution damages lungs, and Covid-19 affects lungs, so people whose lungs are already damaged by air pollution will be more likely to die from Covid-19.

vs

Cell phone electromagnetic radiation has no effect whatsoever on lungs, and Covid-19 affects lungs, so people whose lungs are not damaged by cell phone electromagnetic radiation will be more likely to die from Covid-19.

It's a tough one.

[Cosmic Yak]

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

Give it time. Predictions are not precise. Is it not enough to know that:

1) God is allowing this to happen so as to stop the destruction of the planet.

2) That the world will become more spiritual

3) That one pandemic is not enough, and there will be more, together with massive collateral damage

4) The start is upon us and despite some respites now and then, it will continue to wreak havoc.

5) Science will finally be forced to recognize the damage electro-smog does.

You do know I am not trying to convince anyone on this forum. I post here to get feedback. It is part of the way God works. The messages are subtle and must be filtered out of the background noise.

I get no pleasure as a doom-sayer. The opposite. Life for me and others is most unpleasant. Our hope it that a better world emerges.

Just for the sake of clarity:
Do you support or oppose attempts to fight the coronavirus?

[Azrael 5]

ANyone know why Bill Gates is suddenly the boogey man for all things vaccine and NWO and pops up in Corona virus and 5G kook threads?

[Dr.Sid]

Originally Posted by Azrael 5

ANyone know why Bill Gates is suddenly the boogey man for all things vaccine and NWO and pops up in Corona virus and 5G kook threads?

Why not ? He's rich, well known, frequent in media, promotes scientific approach. Also he's smart. You can't really suspect Trump is head of secret order. But what about Bill Gates ?

[Pixel42]

More specifically his foundation has been a major funder of development of vaccines for the world's biggest killer diseases, so naturally he's the devil incarnate to the wilfully ignorant.

[Mader Levap]

This is standard practice for majority or rich and well known people.

First they accrue riches on back of people and decades of abuse of various kind (in case of Microsoft things like monopolistic practices and making terrible, unsafe crap ridden with holes that everyone uses anyway).

Then when they are getting old, very rich and start worrying about image of them left to next generation, they setup some charities for PR purposes. Do they really think it will make up for decades of corporate cronyism? I guess it works, judging by uncritical reception here.

This is what robber barons of old did and this is what current bunch of moguls do. And everyone laps it up.

What a joke.

Only exception known to me is Elon Musk. He will not need to setup any charities to buttress his conscience.

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Originally Posted by Mader Levap

This is standard practice for majority or rich and well known people.

First they accrue riches on back of people and decades of abuse of various kind (in case of Microsoft things like monopolistic practices and making terrible, unsafe crap ridden with holes that everyone uses anyway).

Then when they are getting old, very rich and start worrying about image of them left to next generation, they setup some charities for PR purposes. Do they really think it will make up for decades of corporate cronyism? I guess it works, judging by uncritical reception here.

This is what robber barons of old did and this is what current bunch of moguls do. And everyone laps it up.

What a joke.

Only exception known to me is Elon Musk. He will not need to setup any charities to buttress his conscience.

Alfred Nobel showed the way

As for the 5G nonsense, if that were true it would open up SO much in the fields of medicine and biochemistry. I mean it would make Pasteur's contribution seem like nothing. We'd be able to fight and destroy any infection and any tumor with impunity.

Care to explain why we don't?

[dann]

Originally Posted by Azrael 5

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[Azrael 5]

Originally Posted by Azrael 5

ANyone wanting to lose their mind for a while and get very annoyed posibly?

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Stop...epa=SEARCH_BOX

Good news Facebook has taken this site down,apparently Youtube are also removing content spreading misinfo about Coronavirus,David Icke videos etc.Much to the chagrin of kooks.

[PartSkeptic]

Originally Posted by Cosmic Yak

Just for the sake of clarity:
Do you support or oppose attempts to fight the coronavirus?

I support the attempts to fight the virus. Survival of the fittest and the smartest.

Strangely the death rate in times of recession drops. This has been attributed to many factors. One is that there are less people on the road. Another is that people are less stressed without a job - the pressures of work are quite bad.

This means that the death rate must climb drastically to reduce the population.

Science has predicted that our current population is unsustainable. Okay. Apart from more waves of viral infection, what else is going to limit the population?

[Pixel42]

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

Science has predicted that our current population is unsustainable. Okay. Apart from more waves of viral infection, what else is going to limit the population?

Birth control, driven by the education of women. The fertility rate has already dropped in developed countries (in many cases to below the replacement rate), and increasing education and empowerment of women in the rest will soon do the same there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projec...owth#Fertility

Quote:

From 2015 to 2020, the average world fertility rate was 2.5 children per woman,[5] about half the level in 1950–1955 (5 children per woman). In the medium variant, global fertility is projected to decline further to 2.2 in 2045 to 2050 and to 1.9 in 2095–2100.[5]

The consequences are inevitable:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Projec...ulation_growth

Quote:

The 2019 forecast from the United Nation’s Population Division shows that world population growth peaked at 2.1% per year in 1962, has since dropped to 1.0%, and could drop even further to 0.1% by 2100, a growth rate not seen since pre-industrial revolution days.[1]

Based on this, the UN Population Division expects world population, currently (2020) at 7.8 billion, to level out at or soon after the end of the 21st Century at 10.9 billion (the median line).[2]

The current pandemic will hardly make a dent in these figures. Climate change might make a bigger one, though.

[JesseCuster]

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

A Harvard study links air pollution to bad covid-19 outcomes.

Guess what is also likely to coexist with air pollution?

Cell phone microwave electrosmog. Some defenders of Telcos will say that there are studies linking air pollution to illness, and I will say that there are studies linking electrosmog to illness - choose who you decide to believe. It is like the early days of the climate change debate.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hs...9-death-rates/

People with COVID-19 who live in U.S. regions with high levels of air pollution are more likely to die from the disease than people who live in less polluted areas, according to a new nationwide study from Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

You're using a study that links higher mortality from COVID--19 with air pollution, in order to make a case that higher mortality from COVID-19 isn't caused by air pollution? Wat?

That's certainly an interesting take on scientific reasoning...

[Captain_Swoop]

This pandemic really has forced a lot of people to demonstrate that they're not 'lovable conspiracy idiots', but genuinely dangerous ********.

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

This pandemic really has forced a lot of people to demonstrate that they're not 'lovable conspiracy idiots', but genuinely dangerous ********.

Yup. Our protagonist is actually enjoying the death rate.

[beachnut]

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

I support the attempts to fight the virus. Survival of the fittest and the smartest. ...

On noes, only you and trump will be left...

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

... Strangely the death rate in times of recession drops. This has been attributed to many factors. One is that there are less people on the road. Another is that people are less stressed without a job - the pressures of work are quite bad. ...

Too bad this is not a standard regression, it is a Pandemic. Less stress? lol, Pandemic.

Yes, the Motor-Vehicle deaths go down, that is true. Darn, suicides don't slow down, darn you almost had something. Heart deaths fall, but wait till we get out of the house, then the attack is back. COVID will take up the slack, and kill more than motor-vehicles. With 1,000 deaths a day, the virus is taking up the slack, and this is a pandemic, not a recession. Thus, death by virus continues, suicides don't usually go down : Say Pandemic - or if you wish, a Pandemic recession.

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

... This means that the death rate must climb drastically to reduce the population. ...

Drive faster? What?

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

... Science has predicted that our current population is unsustainable. Okay. Apart from more waves of viral infection, what else is going to limit the population?

People who are crazy, like the Hale Bopp Comet cult?

[novaphile]

Originally Posted by Sherkeu

Exactly what I thought. Except the bats they study are in a different province of China--to the South --hours away. They take samples and bring them back. I thought it was just the blood/dna but perhaps the live specimens as well. The market though was only ~350 meters away from the Wuhan lab.

There is more but I'll wait for more info. Patient zero may have been a researcher there. Or the bats may have been sold after studies were done. It is just so coincidental for a country so large to have happened in the same place.

After they took all the samples they wanted, a janitor sold the diseased/euthanised bats at the market?

[novaphile]

Originally Posted by Pixel42

The prediction that the world will become more spiritual, whatever the hell that means, as a result of Covid-19 is an interesting one. A more scientifically literate, and prepared to listen to scientific advice, population is surely at least as likely. If only because the anti-vax, anti-science "spiritual" bunch are more likely to ignore that advice and end up dead.

Not to mention how viruses spread like wildfire through woo congregations (of all flavours of woo).

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Of course, if a loving and caring all powerful god wanted to reduce the population on a planet it made, it could also just make a few more and distribute the people there. And at the same time distribute the resources more equally?
And maybe just remove diseases altogether?
And put the planets closer together so the people could still communicate with each other?

And PartSkeptic you never answered my question, if you know that the radiation used in 5G can effect cells, why isn't it being used to cure diseases? If you know how that works all you need to do is perform the experiments (easy, as the frequencies can be made using household appliances) and start the actual work. Nobel prize city right there.

[zooterkin]

Latest CT on Facebook, Boris was faking his symptoms for political gain. https://dorseteye.com/was-boris-john...tion-contrived

[Sherkeu]

Originally Posted by novaphile

After they took all the samples they wanted, a janitor sold the diseased/euthanised bats at the market?

Actually, it doesnt even need to come from the bats directly. If the lab in Wuhan was injecting these bat viruses into other animals to see what happens (previous reports said it was piglets they were using, but why not pangolins too?), the wet market may be a place to get those rarer animals from dealers instead of traveling hundreds of miles to catch them in the wild themselves.

Any infected researcher going to buy animals to test would carry it direct to that market. No 'market' bats are necessary.

This is pure conjecture and we'll likely never know how it truly started. But there are many ways that it gets out of that lab and over to the market.

*I had previously said it was 350m away but it seems the main lab was actually about 20 miles away from the market...still a very short distance compared to the whole country)

[Dash80]

I should know better but still these kinds of crackpot theories every time something happens still surprise me. That people can be that idiotic.

[PartSkeptic]

Originally Posted by Lukraak_Sisser

Of course, if a loving and caring all powerful god wanted to reduce the population on a planet it made, it could also just make a few more and distribute the people there. And at the same time distribute the resources more equally?
And maybe just remove diseases altogether?
And put the planets closer together so the people could still communicate with each other?

And PartSkeptic you never answered my question, if you know that the radiation used in 5G can effect cells, why isn't it being used to cure diseases? If you know how that works all you need to do is perform the experiments (easy, as the frequencies can be made using household appliances) and start the actual work. Nobel prize city right there.

God is part of the illusion in the dream of the only entity that truly exists - an almost infinite intelligence with no space or time. God has to obey the rules set out. He cannot reveal himself and he cannot make life easier. The infinite intelligence tried that (the Garden of Eden) and found that to be too boring. As Buddha discovered, life is suffering - and then you die. But all is not lost - there is re-incarnation of our souls for some of us. Makes the dream much more interesting.

It is not only 5G but all EMFs. There are Israelis working on using microwave for healing. But it is basically radiation which works by altering cells. Some alterations to a poorly functioning cell may be helpful but it is best not to mess with the cells by disturbing their natural function. Targeted cancer radiation is a last resort.

A big part of the problem is that the pulsations are a key factor. There are also additive effects which are very random. It is very hard to control the various factors. It is even harder (impossible I would say) to experiment on humans en masse to get results by varying all the parameters in a meaningful way.

In vitro experiments are limited by duration, frequency, modulation, reflections and the type of cell. Animal experiments are limited to effects that can be measured such as cancer - not autism, brain function and dysfunction. Brain size is a factor because of the wavelengths.

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

God is part of the illusion in the dream of the only entity that truly exists - an almost infinite intelligence with no space or time. God has to obey the rules set out. He cannot reveal himself and he cannot make life easier. The infinite intelligence tried that (the Garden of Eden) and found that to be too boring. As Buddha discovered, life is suffering - and then you die. But all is not lost - there is re-incarnation of our souls for some of us. Makes the dream much more interesting.

It is not only 5G but all EMFs. There are Israelis working on using microwave for healing. But it is basically radiation which works by altering cells. Some alterations to a poorly functioning cell may be helpful but it is best not to mess with the cells by disturbing their natural function. Targeted cancer radiation is a last resort.

A big part of the problem is that the pulsations are a key factor. There are also additive effects which are very random. It is very hard to control the various factors. It is even harder (impossible I would say) to experiment on humans en masse to get results by varying all the parameters in a meaningful way.

In vitro experiments are limited by duration, frequency, modulation, reflections and the type of cell. Animal experiments are limited to effects that can be measured such as cancer - not autism, brain function and dysfunction. Brain size is a factor because of the wavelengths.

Interesting, I've got a degree in genetics and all the problems you mentioned are also present in using UV radiation and/or radioactivity to alter cells, but those methods are functional and extremely tried and tested.
In fact I've used them routinely when I still worked in that field.
Yet here you claim that for microwaves this suddenly becomes an obstacle.

The real reason that it's an obstacle is of course that microwaves cannot alter cells except by cooking them if you truly overdo the energy you put in, but as others have pointed out, sunlight contains more energy than all 'electrosmog' combined.

As per usual with all pseudoscience, it's proponents refuse to look at the implications of their ideas and make up things when challenged.
If the idea would be right, going outside would be suicide, but then again, so would staying inside due to the radiowaves of the sun. And all those who worked on early radar would have been dead in seconds.

As for your other handwave, if your god cannot save this world by interacting with it due to 'rules', then clearly it's also not talking to you, as that would break the rules, and also not responsible for this particular virus, as that would also break the rules. You can't have it both ways.

[Cosmic Yak]

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

I support the attempts to fight the virus. Survival of the fittest and the smartest.

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

In the last year I have had my right knee replaced (the left one was done), gastroscopy and colonoscopy (all clear), a brain MRI, and extensive blood tests. They all show no deviation from the norm.
......

I have been asking the doctor to prescribe twice the anti-fungals I need and have been been hoarding the excess to get me through at least 6 months. I have 3 liters colloidal silver water and some colloidal silver gel.

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

I support the attempts to fight the virus. Survival of the fittest and the smartest.

Originally Posted by JesseCuster

You're using a study that links higher mortality from COVID--19 with air pollution, in order to make a case that higher mortality from COVID-19 isn't caused by air pollution? Wat?

That's certainly an interesting take on scientific reasoning...

PartSkeptic, we're all in this together, and I sincerely wish you all the best, but you really should look at the overall implications of your posts.

[Captain_Swoop]

Eamonn Holmes now spreading 5G Coronavirus conspiracy theory on daytime TV.

If you’re wondering where your auntie is getting this nonsense from it’s not obscure internet conspiracy sites it’s mainstream daytime ITV.

Holmes suggested he believes that 5G may be to blame for Coronavirus and doesn't think you should listen to the "mainstream media" & "state narrative". It's a "legitimate concern and very easy to say it's not true because it suits the state's narrative".

Then Alison Hammond baked some banana bread.

[Captain_Swoop]

Imagine, presenting your own show on ITV and talking about “mainstream media”.

[RedStapler]

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

The smart ones will recognize the damage that electro-smog does, recognize that prayer works, reconize that my hypothesis is a good one.

No, that's what we call "gullible".

[Pixel42]

I've had a pretty long life already, and my suggested course of action has worked out pretty well so far - eight years and counting.

In any case one cannot simply "get some belief". Either the case made is convincing or it isn't. Yours falls a long way short of convincing.

[PartSkeptic]

Originally Posted by Sherkeu

Actually, it doesnt even need to come from the bats directly. If the lab in Wuhan was injecting these bat viruses into other animals to see what happens (previous reports said it was piglets they were using, but why not pangolins too?), the wet market may be a place to get those rarer animals from dealers instead of traveling hundreds of miles to catch them in the wild themselves.

Any infected researcher going to buy animals to test would carry it direct to that market. No 'market' bats are necessary.

This is pure conjecture and we'll likely never know how it truly started. But there are many ways that it gets out of that lab and over to the market.

*I had previously said it was 350m away but it seems the main lab was actually about 20 miles away from the market...still a very short distance compared to the whole country)

Does it make any difference how it got started? It has been known that many countries have bio-labs and we all know that mistakes can be made so a pathogen is released.

It has also been known for decades that animals are reservoirs of pathogens that co-exist with their host but can mutate and transfer to humans in a deadly form. Read the book "Pandemics Progress" that discusses the various concepts. Although it is a 1996 book the concepts are well explained. The mutation could have occurred in a number of countries including the USA. I do feel that the introduction of city-wide 5G MAY have aided in the mutation.

It is my experience that various pathogens transfer and our immune systems deal with them - until the mutation that escapes it. Our dogs got canine demodectic mites (mange), and I got it from them. I could see them breeding in my skin. But not for long. The human immune system kicks in and kills them. There are 26 different variants - for different species.

[PartSkeptic]

Originally Posted by Pixel42

I've had a pretty long life already, and my suggested course of action has worked out pretty well so far - eight years and counting.

In any case one cannot simply "get some belief". Either the case made is convincing or it isn't. Yours falls a long way short of convincing.

Even the believers need some form of proof rather than my personal anecdotes. I recognize that. So how will the message gain traction? If God wants it out there, then I can only surmise he has a plan.

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

The "science" shows that ROS is generated by cell phone microwaves. ROS does the damage, even doing as much as 80% of the damage when ionizing radiation is involved. It is standard science and logic - but feel free to cherry pick your those papers and studies that suit your beliefs. You are appealing to authority when you cite your credentials, but even brilliant people can be blind to what they could not be bothered to see.

The rules are against scientific proof. He can talk to me (or you or others) and give us information which hint at his existence. A statistical study would show that the existence of God is probable since it is the only theory that explains a number of psychic events which are otherwise unexplainable.

The reason for God talking to me, not only about the die-off but about further information about how it all works, is so that humankind can learn and make further advances. Both science and religion have advanced by the discoveries of individuals which then stand the test of time and logic.

Can you show the science that shows cell phone radiation is capable of actually creating Reactive oxygen species? Because physics, chemistry and biology all show that the energy is not sufficient to do so.

And how do you know that your god actually talks to your rather than it being your own conformation bias? Because your track record for predictions is extremely poor. The whole 'I predicted a pandemic' is, as has been pointed out, en par with predicting earthquakes, tornadoes etc.

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

The "science" shows that ROS is generated by cell phone microwaves. ROS does the damage, even doing as much as 80% of the damage when ionizing radiation is involved. It is standard science and logic - but feel free to cherry pick your those papers and studies that suit your beliefs. You are appealing to authority when you cite your credentials, but even brilliant people can be blind to what they could not be bothered to see.

The rules are against scientific proof. He can talk to me (or you or others) and give us information which hint at his existence. A statistical study would show that the existence of God is probable since it is the only theory that explains a number of psychic events which are otherwise unexplainable.

The reason for God talking to me, not only about the die-off but about further information about how it all works, is so that humankind can learn and make further advances. Both science and religion have advanced by the discoveries of individuals which then stand the test of time and logic.

Except 5G is not ionising radiation which makes your claims false.

[Elagabalus]

This one is making the rounds on some ABC affiliate stations. Has it all. Rush Limbot, Victor David Hanson, Stanford, Herd Immunity ...

https://sfist.com/2020/04/10/some-sc...ly-flu-season/


Comment section is good.

[Pixel42]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Eamonn Holmes now spreading 5G Coronavirus conspiracy theory on daytime TV.

If you’re wondering where your auntie is getting this nonsense from it’s not obscure internet conspiracy sites it’s mainstream daytime ITV.

Holmes suggested he believes that 5G may be to blame for Coronavirus and doesn't think you should listen to the "mainstream media" & "state narrative". It's a "legitimate concern and very easy to say it's not true because it suits the state's narrative".

Then Alison Hammond baked some banana bread.

TV host criticised for 5G conspiracy comments

Quote:

TV host Eamonn Holmes has sparked outcry over comments he made about a false claim linking 5G technology and coronavirus.

The baseless conspiracy theory, which is being spread on social media, has been linked to a number of suspected arson attacks on mobile phone masts in the UK.

On his programme, ITV's This Morning, Holmes said that while he agrees with the description of the conspiracy theory as "ridiculous", it's "very easy to say it is not true because it suits the state narrative”.

It comes after the UK government had deemed it "a crackpot conspiracy theory". Scientists have called the rumours that there is a link between 5G and coronavirus "complete rubbish" and a biological impossibility.
However, that has not stopped false claims being shared on Facebook, YouTube, Instagram and Tik Tok.

Some posts have now been removed, but in recent weeks the conspiracy theory has been shared by verified accounts with hundreds of thousands of followers.

ITV is yet to comment on Holmes’ remarks.

In response to the comments, the government reiterated that those attacking phone masts or abusing telecoms engineers would face “the full force of the law”.

[Dr.Sid]

Do you know the Idiocracy movie ? It was so funny back then. Then it became less and less funny. And with this 5G CT it's right out unimaginative and bland. The movie is based on overstating how stupid can people be. But that's the thing - it's impossible.

[Axxman300]

Have we got to the part where 5G is a threat to our precious fluids yet?



[fun fact: Actor Sterling Hayden, who played Gen. Jack D Ripper, was OSS during WWII. Surprised he hasn't appeared in any CT's...yet]

[Lukraak_Sisser]

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

The mechanism is that calcium channels in the cellular membrane are affected and incorrectly unbalance the ions. This has a chain reaction to over-produce reactive oxygen species.

Can you show actual peer reviewed papers?

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

God has only "spoken" to me once. And it was like me talking to myself but different enough to think it was not coming from my subconscious without an outside agency.

The fact that it was "confirmed" by my learning of Swine Flu a day later and then having my travel plans changed by unusual weather so that I was forced to fly out of an airport where ten students had Swine Flu and that I flew back to an area where other students had arrived with Swine Flu tells me I was not imagining the message. A week later at the height of the Swine Flu pandemic I "knew" it was not the big one. I was correct. I could have jumped on that "band-wagon" but did not.

This happened in New Zealand. I had gone there from South Africa partly because a clairvoyant told me it was important that I go to a particular area in the South Island. New Zealand is not normally a "hot spot" for pandemics so the importation of Swine Flu was unusual to say the least.

So, how do you know it is not a combination of coincidence and confirmation bias?

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

I have not said that any other outbreaks were the start. This current outbreak is pretty much on time and so far am right. And I have also said that this will be very bad in terms of death and social disruption so that a new world order comes about. How many others have predicted that?

Everyone? At least everyone that has ever studied an epidemic ever?
In fact, societal disruption and a lot of deaths is what MAKES a disease an epidemic.
So your prediction is akin to claiming one will get wet if one steps out in the rain, true, but not anything clairvoyant.

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

As for my "record" you are referring to a distorted version which has been generated to discredit me.

A, fake news, like Trump you do not like being confronted with your earlier recorded failures, so now you claim it's a distortion.

Originally Posted by PartSkeptic

To say to me that I had to give details such as time, date and place and numbers so as to be credible is silly. It is denialism. Should I have to give names of victims in the sequence they died?

Yes? After all, that is would would actually show you have some supernatural source of information rather than generic information that the rest of the world also possesses?
See, had you in march last year for instance predicted the city of the first outbreak and what cities and countries would be hit roughly how hard and at what times you'd actually be credible.