Continuation 2020 Presidential Election part 3

[acbytesla]

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

You're missing my point by a good country mile.

I'm expected to "just ignore" Swoop's endless spamming all the time across multiple threads you can ignore the one time in 6 months I've complained about it.

Yet you aren't. Funny that.

I don't see it as spam.

[alfaniner]

Originally Posted by acbytesla

I really don't care about Swoop's posts or your snarks. I've never blocked a poster. You're entitled to your position whether I like it or not. I usually hate reading Swoop's posts but I do see their value.

It's been almost four years. We can put up with it for a few more weeks. (I don't know when Captain Swoop started posting them.) We only have a couple months to go. Twitter is then likely to ban The (former) PDJT, and he won't even be relevant any more.

I have a Twitter account myself but like staying updated here on his more egregious Tweets. Which unfortunately, happens to be most of them. (I think the request to put them in quotes has been ignored enough times to make it useless to complain about again at this late date. Never mind, I'm used to it now.)

[ponderingturtle]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Pompeo sounds like a hostage telling the press how well he's being treated by his torturers.
This is dangerous stuff and I'm not sure he believes what he's saying.

Naa, Pompeo is all in on Trump.

[JoeMorgue]

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Are you sure Oregon doesn't have a mechanism where you can vote in person. Like you can here in Washington State? Which really is basically walking into County and being handed a provisional ballot.

Nope. Unless you have a disability that requires assistance from a voting rep.

https://sos.oregon.gov/voting/Pages/disabilities.aspx

[Resume]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Pompeo sounds like a hostage telling the press how well he's being treated by his torturers.
This is dangerous stuff and I'm not sure he believes what he's saying.

Nah, we've been told multiple times this administration isn't fascistic --or should I say authoritarian super-nationalistic -- and Trump doesn't act like a dictator --or should I say authoritarian super-nationalist?

[Emily's Cat]

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

The two Senate seata in Georgia that go into a runoff: Democrats will move heaven and hell to win them.
Republicans will, too, but the last thing they need is a Trump who feels like Republicans have stabbed him in the back: they have to keep Trump happy, so he will campaign for the R-candidates.

I'm not sure I agree with your assumptions here. It seems like you're assuming that the Rs in GA somehow need Trump's direct support in order to win those seats? If that's the case, I don't think that necessarily holds. There are a lot of states in the US this election that went to Biden, but who seated a lot of Republicans. To me, that indicates that a lot of people in general still view Republicans as favorable to Democrats, but view Trump specifically as a bad egg that needs to go. My inference could be wrong, but if that's the case, I'm not sure that Trump's emotional state really has any material effect on those run-offs in GA. I think you're giving him too much credit.

[quadraginta]

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Does kind of piss all over the whole "No spamming" and "No hijacking" rules (which would also fall under the "LOL just ignore it if you don't like it" excuse) but apparently this is different for no reason...

At this point it is obvious he does it just because some people don't like it.

It could be equally obvious that he does it because some people do like it.

He has been asked to continue and thanked for doing it several times. By an assortment of people.

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Thanks, again, CS. Keep up the good work.

[ponderingturtle]

Originally Posted by Emily's Cat

I'm not sure I agree with your assumptions here. It seems like you're assuming that the Rs in GA somehow need Trump's direct support in order to win those seats? If that's the case, I don't think that necessarily holds. There are a lot of states in the US this election that went to Biden, but who seated a lot of Republicans. To me, that indicates that a lot of people in general still view Republicans as favorable to Democrats, but view Trump specifically as a bad egg that needs to go. My inference could be wrong, but if that's the case, I'm not sure that Trump's emotional state really has any material effect on those run-offs in GA. I think you're giving him too much credit.

Depends on why that happened, was it people actually cross over voting or just leaving down ballot races blank?

[Stacyhs]

Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger

It's not like he expects to keep his job if Trump is out. Barr and Pompeo both have minion credentials and both are serious Christian fundies.

Of course not. But for him to say such a thing seriously undermines the credibility of US elections and supports Trump's insane claims. He's the Secretary of State for God's sake and he's standing up there saying to the world that our presidential election was a complete fraud. That is unforgiveable.

[JoeMorgue]

I can grok people voting in the major election and not voting in the mid-term, but at times it almost sounds like we're supposed to believe people go into a voting booth and vote one some elections on that ballot but not others which doesn't make any kind of sense.

[quadraginta]

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

True, assuming all the legal challenges fail (likely at this point) Trump is out of office regardless... The big question is, How does Biden subsequently take power? Will there be the normal transition period (where incoming officials meet with outgoing officials, exchange information, etc.) Or will the Trump administration sit on its hands until January, and just... leave (causing as much damage on their way out as possible)

Too late for that. He's already ordered his pets to block the Biden transition team's efforts for a smooth hand-over.

[Stacyhs]

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Are you sure Oregon doesn't have a mechanism where you can vote in person. Like you can here in Washington State? Which really is basically walking into County and being handed a provisional ballot.

Yes, there is no in-person voting at all in OR.

[TragicMonkey]

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I can grok people voting in the major election and not voting in the mid-term, but at times it almost sounds like we're supposed to believe people go into a voting booth and vote one some elections on that ballot but not others which doesn't make any kind of sense.

Well, I admit I skip filling out the ovals that are all "do you want to retain JUDGE SOMEONE NEVERHEARDOF in office as FIFTH DEPUTY CIRCUIT RECORDER ASSISTANT JUDGE?"

[Emily's Cat]

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I can grok people voting in the major election and not voting in the mid-term, but at times it almost sounds like we're supposed to believe people go into a voting booth and vote one some elections on that ballot but not others which doesn't make any kind of sense.

There were a few items on this year's ballot that I abstained from. For example, I don't care who is on the school board, so I didn't vote. Similarly, there were some local judicial positions where I had no real information so I didn't vote on those. I imagine there are a lot of people who care about the president and their congresscritters, but don't care who their sheriff is.

[phiwum]

Originally Posted by turingtest

It'll be 5,000,000+ before it's all over....

Er, how? That's a gain of about 360,000 votes for Biden. How many votes are still outstanding?

I'm not saying you're wrong. I don't know how many votes are uncounted and where, but 300k sounds high to me.

[ponderingturtle]

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I can grok people voting in the major election and not voting in the mid-term, but at times it almost sounds like we're supposed to believe people go into a voting booth and vote one some elections on that ballot but not others which doesn't make any kind of sense.

Yet it happens. The principle is that they don't have an informed opinion and so are standing aside from voting in those races.

https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/201...informed-voter

[JoeMorgue]

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Well, I admit I skip filling out the ovals that are all "do you want to retain JUDGE SOMEONE NEVERHEARDOF in office as FIFTH DEPUTY CIRCUIT RECORDER ASSISTANT JUDGE?"

I had 6 "Soil and Water Conservation Managers" on my ballot, I sympathize.

But stuff like voting for President but then just not voting, not voting for a different party but straight up not voting, for like Senator or Representative. That can't be a statistically meaningful occurrence.

[quadraginta]

Originally Posted by Disbelief

Pfizer also did not use US funding, they got it from Germany.

Mebbe so, but they did get a $1.95 billion purchase order from the U.S. government for whenever they had a vaccine ready, which I'm sure went a long way toward buffering any concerns about investing in the research.

[abaddon]

Originally Posted by Delvo

I don't think the Four Seasons thing was a mistake. I think it was a miserable underling lashing out at terrible bosses.

LOL do you mean "malicious compliance"?

[JoeMorgue]

I doubt anyone is worried about whether or not the investment will be worth the cost for a vaccine for a global pandemic.

[TragicMonkey]

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I had 6 "Soil and Water Conservation Managers" on my ballot, I sympathize.

Ballot measure: It is proposed to change the official title 'Soil and Water Conservation Manager' to 'Dirt & Drip Master'. Completely fill in oval to the left for 'Yes' or 'No'.

[Stacyhs]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

Pompeo sounds like a hostage telling the press how well he's being treated by his torturers.
This is dangerous stuff and I'm not sure he believes what he's saying.

The man will be out of a job in two and a half months. He should have kept his damn mouth shut. If he has future political aspirations, which I think he does, this will come back to bite him in the ass.

[acbytesla]

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

I can grok people voting in the major election and not voting in the mid-term, but at times it almost sounds like we're supposed to believe people go into a voting booth and vote one some elections on that ballot but not others which doesn't make any kind of sense.

I've done it. There are contests where I feel I don't feel I am familiar enough with the candidates and/or the issues so I simply pass on it.

[dirtywick]

On my ballot most of the bottom was people running unopposed. I could see a lot of people skipping those also.

[JoeMorgue]

Again I'm not talking about not voting for "3rd Assistant Roadkill Scraper" or some ballot measure or whatever.

I'm talking about the big ones; President, Senator, House Rep, Governor, maybe state legislatures. Surely if you've dragged your hinder to the voting booth you're vaguely familiar with them.

[quadraginta]

Originally Posted by Emily's Cat

I don't "carry his water". I just run out of patience for the inane overreactions that leave any vestige of reason behind.

I do the same thing on nearly any subject... but the topic selection here is quite one-sided, so there's not much opportunity to see me doing things like telling my niece that no, Biden isn't a rapist - he's weirdly huggy with young girls and seems to like kissing people's heads and smelling their hair, which is creepy, but he's not a rapist.

I was really hoping that when Trump lost, common sense (and decency) would reassert themselves. Sure, I know, he's still hollering into the wind... but I'm disappointed that the rest of you(g) otherwise intelligent folks haven't let it go and moved on to being rational again.

We're watching Trump continue to be irrational, with the collusion and support of the leaders of the GOP. And at great cost to the welfare and future of the country.

It doesn't have anything to do with us. Aside from concern that the nightmare isn't over yet.

That's not irrational, that's just recognising the reality of the situation.

[Captain_Swoop]

"We're gonna find somebody accountable for something" Lindsey Graham

[thaiboxerken]

Trump and the GOP are attempting a coup but the courts aren't going along with it, so far. They're rattling sabers, but those sabers are of the plastic toy kind.

[JoeMorgue]

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

Trump and the GOP are attempting a coup but the courts aren't going along with it, so far. They're rattling sabers, but those sabers are of the plastic toy kind.

Still doing a lot more damage to the trust in the electoral process then I'm comfortable "getting over" for a while.

[quadraginta]

Originally Posted by Emily's Cat

I'd prefer it if links were provided. Sometimes I'd like to get more context. I know, it's twitter, so a lot of times there isn't any more context. But sometimes there is.

"Context"? For a Trump twit in a Trump account?

You know what you ought to do? You ought to go and submerge yourself in the sewage of those accounts for a few days. After you do, come back and tell us about how much "context" you found.

I expect you'll find yourself filled with gratitude that CS is willing to take a bullet for us all, and try to pick out the pieces that are relevant to our discussions.

Kind of like looking for the pieces of corn in a river full of turds.

[uke2se]

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Still doing a lot more damage to the trust in the electoral process then I'm comfortable "getting over" for a while.

Too right. They are damaging US democracy on a quest that should it succeed, would destroy US democracy. It's something that the Biden administration should pursue charges for.

[quadraginta]

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Oh I'm sorry I forgot things stopped being spamming and hijack because some people are too lazy to open Twitter in another tab. How careless of me.

Laziness has nothing to do with it. It's more about having the stomach to spend much time there.

[JoeMorgue]

Originally Posted by uke2se

Too right. They are damaging US democracy on a quest that should it succeed, would destroy US democracy. It's something that the Biden administration should pursue charges for.

That's why I'm eating zero crow if the GOP or SCOTUS does smack Trump down hard at some final step and the Trumpers start doing some big "See a check & balance stopped him you were worried about nothing" dance.

[Dr. Keith]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

"We're gonna find somebody accountable for something" Lindsey Graham

I'm willing to bet the person responsible is never held accountable.

[thaiboxerken]

I wonder what Putin has on these guys.

[Venom]

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

That's why I'm eating zero crow if the GOP or SCOTUS does smack Trump down hard at the some final step and the Trumpers start doing some big "See a check & balance stopped him you were worried about notice" dance.

After spending lots of time on social media that's the most sophisticated defense of Trump's behavior I've heard so far. Trump's not as bad as you think he is because Congress and the courts or his advisors will stop his excesses.

[TragicMonkey]

Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop

"We're gonna find somebody accountable for something" Lindsey Graham

Lindsey Graham couldn't find his own ass, he sure as heck can't find accountability persons.

[Elagabalus]

Originally Posted by abaddon

LOL do you mean "malicious compliance"?

Funny article from The Independent.

I saw Donald Trump’s presidency come crashing down at Four Seasons Total Landscaping

[phiwum]

Delete

[Stacyhs]

Originally Posted by thaiboxerken

I wonder what Putin has on these guys.

I think it's common knowledge what Trump has on Lindsey Graham.