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Old 17th April 2019, 12:50 AM   #1
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Climate protestors threaten London mass transit disruption

After several days of blocking roads in central London, resulting in around 300 arrests, Extinction Rebellion are threating to disrupt the London Underground, including using the tactic of gluing themselves to Tube trains.

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London Evening Standard: Extinction Rebellion activists set to cause Tube chaos for millions of commuters

Extinction Rebellion climate protesters have confirmed plans to cause Tube chaos for millions of commuters on the London Underground.

The Extinction Rebellion group, which has been blocking roads and bridges in the capital this week, confirmed it would “non-violently disrupt Tube services to highlight the emergency of ecological collapse” on Wednesday morning.

Transport for London warned bus users to expect disruption in central London during the morning rush.

It tweeted: "Central London / Extinction Rebellion - Bus routes which usually serve central London are, again, diverted / curtailed due to on-going protest which are blocking several roads."

In a statement the Extinction Rebellion said: "Participants will peacefully break the law in order to stop the Tube and then will wait to be arrested.

"We sincerely apologise to all those who may suffer as a consequence of this disruption. In any other circumstances we would never dream of disrupting the Tube but this is an emergency.

"We request that workers do not intervene in the protests to ensure that they go as smoothly and safely as possible for all involved."
Whatever one thinks about the protestors' declared aims, it seems that disrupting a mass transit system that actually reduces the numbers of vehicles on the road is dumb with a capital "D." I would also predict that after what appears to have been days of fairly violence-free protest, that will certainly change if they start screwing with the commutes of hundreds of thousands of people, and it won't be the police or Tube staff attacking protestors.

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Old 17th April 2019, 12:59 AM   #2
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Originally Posted by Information Analyst View Post
After several days of blocking roads in central London, resulting in around 300 arrests, Extinction Rebellion are threating to disrupt the London Underground, including using the tactic of gluing themselves to Tube trains.



Whatever one thinks about the protestors' declared aims, it seems that disrupting a mass transit system that actually reduces the numbers of vehicles on the road is dumb with a capital "D." I would also predict that after what appears to have been days of fairly violence-free protest, that will certainly change if they start screwing with the commutes of hundreds of thousands of people, and it won't be the police or Tube staff attacking protestors.
I also don't think this kind of protest helps their cause very much. People are more likely to hate them for it.
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Old 17th April 2019, 01:13 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Information Analyst View Post
After several days of blocking roads in central London, resulting in around 300 arrests, Extinction Rebellion are threating to disrupt the London Underground, including using the tactic of gluing themselves to Tube trains.



Whatever one thinks about the protestors' declared aims, it seems that disrupting a mass transit system that actually reduces the numbers of vehicles on the road is dumb with a capital "D." I would also predict that after what appears to have been days of fairly violence-free protest, that will certainly change if they start screwing with the commutes of hundreds of thousands of people, and it won't be the police or Tube staff attacking protestors.
Wont wake Gen X or Boomers from their slumber march to the end of their lifetimes. Its the aim though.
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Old 17th April 2019, 01:21 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Information Analyst View Post
After several days of blocking roads in central London, resulting in around 300 arrests, Extinction Rebellion are threating to disrupt the London Underground, including using the tactic of gluing themselves to Tube trains.



Whatever one thinks about the protestors' declared aims, it seems that disrupting a mass transit system that actually reduces the numbers of vehicles on the road is dumb with a capital "D." I would also predict that after what appears to have been days of fairly violence-free protest, that will certainly change if they start screwing with the commutes of hundreds of thousands of people, and it won't be the police or Tube staff attacking protestors.
Yes. A stupid protest.
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Old 17th April 2019, 05:42 AM   #5
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Gluing themselves to trains?

Run ‘em.
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Old 17th April 2019, 05:49 AM   #6
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Gluing themselves to trains?

Run em.
A problem easily solved, given that some of the tunnels are a very tight fit.

As it is, it seems that the best they have come up with is a couple of protestors climbing on the roof of a Docklands Light Railway train at the elevated Canary Wharf station. Hope they brought warm clothing, as it's very windy there.
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Old 17th April 2019, 06:12 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
Wont wake Gen X or Boomers from their slumber march to the end of their lifetimes. Its the aim though.
The aim is off. Feet will be casualties.
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Old 17th April 2019, 01:50 PM   #8
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Just getting silly now...

BBC News: Extinction Rebellion London activists chained to Jeremy Corbyn's home

"Climate change activists glued themselves to a train and others chained themselves to Jeremy Corbyn's home in a third day of protests.

Extinction Rebellion protesters have been blocking traffic at Marble Arch, Waterloo Bridge, Parliament Square and Oxford Circus since Monday.

Earlier, three activists were glued to a Docklands Light Railway (DLR) train at Canary Wharf, causing minor delays.

Four people also glued themselves together at the Labour leader's home."
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Old 17th April 2019, 02:39 PM   #9
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Huh? How have these people come up with the idea of disrupting public transport? Would they prefer that people not use the tube and drive instead? I wonder how some of them got to their protests.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
I also don't think this kind of protest helps their cause very much. People are more likely to hate them for it.
Yeah.nothing makes a person want to listen to your point of view then causing him a lot of inconvience and problems. Great way to reach people.
One of the problems with the Left is they think it is eternally 1968, and the kind of tactics they used then will work now.
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Huh? How have these people come up with the idea of disrupting public transport? Would they prefer that people not use the tube and drive instead? I wonder how some of them got to their protests.
I repeat it sort of an inability to move beyond the 1960's.
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
Wont wake Gen X or Boomers from their slumber march to the end of their lifetimes. Its the aim though.
Yeah, Pissing people off is a wonderful way to win them over to your side.
Sorry, but this whole excusing bad and stupid behavior because "it's trying to wake people up" is pretty silly.
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Huh? How have these people come up with the idea of disrupting public transport? Would they prefer that people not use the tube and drive instead? I wonder how some of them got to their protests.
The goal is to disrupt people's lives so that they'll pay attention to your concerns. A lot of people use public transport in London, so disrupting that gets your concerns a lot of attention. This is not necessarily a bad or contradictory strategy, even if the goal is ultimately "more public transport".

I tend to question the value of the strategy of disrupting a lot of people so they pay attention to you, but historically that seems to be the go-to strategy for people looking for big changes, so I'm probably in the wrong on this.
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The goal is to disrupt people's lives so that they'll pay attention to your concerns. A lot of people use public transport in London, so disrupting that gets your concerns a lot of attention. This is not necessarily a bad or contradictory strategy, even if the goal is ultimately "more public transport".

I tend to question the value of the strategy of disrupting a lot of people so they pay attention to you, but historically that seems to be the go-to strategy for people looking for big changes, so I'm probably in the wrong on this.
I get it, but if the response is, Tubes out; id better drive or take a taxi...we might need more roads... then it is a backfiring strategy. Not to mention the fact it bolsters the view that climate protestors are an annoying bunch of moonbats.

Its similar to those supermodel nude protests. Were gonna walk around naked until you stop buying fur! Fur sales go through the roof!
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Huh? How have these people come up with the idea of disrupting public transport? Would they prefer that people not use the tube and drive instead? I wonder how some of them got to their protests.
Especially given that a lot of those arrested are not even London residents....
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I heard that the Met police stopped them disrupting the underground by switching off WiFi in the underground apparently preventing them organising themselves.

I have to say the cynic in me thought "No it meant they couldn't live broadcast,update their Instagram page or not know what their friends are thinking and doing for 5 minutes which meant they panicked. "
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I heard that the Met police stopped them disrupting the underground by switching off WiFi in the underground apparently preventing them organising themselves.

I have to say the cynic in me thought "No it meant they couldn't live broadcast,update their Instagram page or not know what their friends are thinking and doing for 5 minutes which meant they panicked. "
also what else are you supposed to do while glued to something?
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