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Old 17th April 2019, 03:37 PM   #321
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
The dinosaurs were killed off by a teateor.
I thought it was maybe an aureola borealis.
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Old 17th April 2019, 03:54 PM   #322
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Rebuilding a rural community church anywhere is a small quantity of funds. I have seen some here that are little more than a converted four car garage.

Those the ceremony and community are the treasure and the building a bit more than a place to do it.

This building is a national treasure that cannot be replaced by a big pole barn on the site. Rome may staff it but France owns it. Art and architectural elements one place in the world and not likely ti be copied accurately as the masters and methods are gone.

Well worth a restore just for being a part of history.
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Old 17th April 2019, 04:42 PM   #323
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I can’t see Donald Trump sending money to refugees in the EU when he is branding himself an anti-immigrant US president. No, send money for a big old church instead. One that he might like to visit.
Actually I had all those billionaires coughing up millions in mind. Sorry if it wasn't clear.
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Old 17th April 2019, 04:44 PM   #324
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Originally Posted by 8enotto View Post
Rebuilding a rural community church anywhere is a small quantity of funds. I have seen some here that are little more than a converted four car garage.

Those the ceremony and community are the treasure and the building a bit more than a place to do it.

This building is a national treasure that cannot be replaced by a big pole barn on the site. Rome may staff it but France owns it. Art and architectural elements one place in the world and not likely ti be copied accurately as the masters and methods are gone.

Well worth a restore just for being a part of history.
This.
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Old 17th April 2019, 05:17 PM   #325
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You know it had to happen:

MULTIPLE PEOPLE CLAIM THEY CAN ‘SEE JESUS’ IN THE NOTRE DAME FLAMES
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There are two different sightings, one in the smoke and one in the flames. I can see 4 different possibilities so it's not hard to imagine anything.
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Old 17th April 2019, 05:55 PM   #326
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Sorry to divert from how many bodies should dance on the head of a monument or whether the Catholic Church deserves its rep for protecting pedophiles (it does).

But I thought this might interest a few of the more technically minded.

Notre Dame fire: How drones and a robot called Colossus helped limit the damage.


Includes some good video of the robot.
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Old 17th April 2019, 06:29 PM   #327
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
You know it had to happen:

MULTIPLE PEOPLE CLAIM THEY CAN ‘SEE JESUS’ IN THE NOTRE DAME FLAMES
(not my caps)

There are two different sightings, one in the smoke and one in the flames. I can see 4 different possibilities so it's not hard to imagine anything.
Well of course they did. Some probably saw Satan, or Muhammad, or Vishnu or something.
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[URL="https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/notre-dame-fire-how-drones-and-a-robot-helped-to-prevent-worse-damage/"
Notre Dame fire: How drones and a robot called Colossus helped limit the damage.[/url]


Includes some good video of the robot.
Please let us disable your ad-blocker. No.
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Old 17th April 2019, 06:33 PM   #328
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
You know it had to happen:

MULTIPLE PEOPLE CLAIM THEY CAN ‘SEE JESUS’ IN THE NOTRE DAME FLAMES
(not my caps)

There are two different sightings, one in the smoke and one in the flames. I can see 4 different possibilities so it's not hard to imagine anything.
Are police searching for him for questioning? Sounds like it might be arson.
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Old 17th April 2019, 06:37 PM   #329
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Well of course they did. Some probably saw Satan, or Muhammad, or Vishnu or something.

Please let us disable your ad-blocker. No.

I expect there are other sources if you don't like that one.

Probably not too hard to find.

The video clip really is worth a peek. It's right inside the cathedral while the fire's still burning.


ETA: Here's the same clip on YT. It's from Le Parisien.
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Old 18th April 2019, 08:52 AM   #330
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
You know it had to happen:

MULTIPLE PEOPLE CLAIM THEY CAN ‘SEE JESUS’ IN THE NOTRE DAME FLAMES
(not my caps)

There are two different sightings, one in the smoke and one in the flames. I can see 4 different possibilities so it's not hard to imagine anything.
Good ol' medieval Jesus. Pops up in the most unlikely places.

Jesus shows at a church fire. Satan shows at the WTC fires. They each obviously have their priorities sorted.
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Old 18th April 2019, 10:18 AM   #331
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Originally Posted by quadraginta View Post
Sorry to divert from how many bodies should dance on the head of a monument or whether the Catholic Church deserves its rep for protecting pedophiles (it does).

But I thought this might interest a few of the more technically minded.

Notre Dame fire: How drones and a robot called Colossus helped limit the damage.


Includes some good video of the robot.
Damn, when I saw "Colossus" I though the X Men helped out....
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Old 18th April 2019, 11:01 AM   #332
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
You know it had to happen:

MULTIPLE PEOPLE CLAIM THEY CAN ‘SEE JESUS’ IN THE NOTRE DAME FLAMES
(not my caps)

There are two different sightings, one in the smoke and one in the flames. I can see 4 different possibilities so it's not hard to imagine anything.
But nobody knows what Jesus really looked like so it might not have been him.
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Old 18th April 2019, 11:29 AM   #333
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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy View Post
But nobody knows what Jesus really looked like so it might not have been him.
Ever since he gained all that weight Jesus has pretended to be Buddha.

It's okay, though, he's planning to get in shape with Cross Fit.
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Peekaboo! Jesus here, sorry about the fire.
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But nobody knows what Jesus really looked like so it might not have been him.
Sure they do. there were lots of paintings of him inside that very church. Each and every one showing a non-Jewish long-haired western European in long flowing robes just like everyone wore in Roman occupied Palestine. Anything that bears a vague resemblance to that is, by default, a Christian Jesus. Pareidolia = proof.
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By that token Kim Kardashian’s bum is worth more than Notre Dame.
That's a bit over the top - Kim Kardashian’s bum has yet to make presidents stop election campaigns, billionaires to pledge hundreds of millions, or entire national populations join in prayer, etc.

But you could say that celebrities are "worth" more than plain people - in the sense that I alluded to. Lady Diana comes to mind.
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But nobody knows what Jesus really looked like so it might not have been him.
He looks like his paintings, d'uh.
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Old 18th April 2019, 01:17 PM   #338
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
He looks like his paintings, d'uh.
Hey! That's what I said. I just used a lot more words to make myself appear smart.


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Sure they do. there were lots of paintings of him inside that very church. Each and every one showing a non-Jewish long-haired western European in long flowing robes just like everyone wore in Roman occupied Palestine. Anything that bears a vague resemblance to that is, by default, a Christian Jesus. Pareidolia = proof.
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Old 18th April 2019, 01:42 PM   #339
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Daily Mail reports that investigators initially are saying that it was started by an electrical short circuit.
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Apart from its age and unique history in the center of Paris, how does Notre Dame compare to other cathedrals across Europe and the UK in size, structure, etc.? I don't want to say "If you've seen one Gothic cathedral, you've seen 'em all," but they do share many design elements.
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Apart from its age and unique history in the center of Paris, how does Notre Dame compare to other cathedrals across Europe and the UK in size, structure, etc.? I don't want to say "If you've seen one Gothic cathedral, you've seen 'em all," but they do share many design elements.
Chartres is better. Objectively. Great flying buttresses!

Salisbury has a higher spire, I believe. It is also very attractive for Russian tourists.

Aside from that, they are all alike.
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Originally Posted by Oystein View Post
That's a bit over the top - Kim Kardashian’s bum has yet to make presidents stop election campaigns, billionaires to pledge hundreds of millions, or entire national populations join in prayer, etc.

But you could say that celebrities are "worth" more than plain people - in the sense that I alluded to. Lady Diana comes to mind.
If you are accusing me of exaggeration, that is the grossest slander in all of humanity!

Anyway, my point is obviously that what I believe should be of value is not necessarily going to be borne out by how many headlines it makes - which is often driven by novelty or marketing or ability to provide constant coverage (kid down a well; OJ on the freeway), or what rich people spend their money on (Banksy’s shredded picture; a Basquiat original etc...)

Saudi Arabia spends more money on arms than the people they bomb, so does that mean the weapons are worth more than the people of Yemen?
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Hey! That's what I said. I just used a lot more words to make myself appear smart.
I answer as I go. I didn't see your very clever post until after I posted mine.
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Apart from its age and unique history in the center of Paris, how does Notre Dame compare to other cathedrals across Europe and the UK in size, structure, etc.? I don't want to say "If you've seen one Gothic cathedral, you've seen 'em all," but they do share many design elements.
Ten Cathedrals to see before you die... because of their architecture.
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Notre Dame de Paris is widely considered one of the finest examples of French Gothic architecture in France and in Europe, and the naturalism of its sculptures and stained glass are in contrast with earlier Romanesque architecture. The first period of construction from 1163 into the 1240s coincided with the musical experiments of the Notre Dame school.

Notre Dame de Paris was among the first buildings in the world to use the flying buttress (arched exterior supports).
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Ten Cathedrals to see before you die... because of their architecture.
Winchester but not Durham?
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I answer as I go. I didn't see your very clever post until after I posted mine.
Not a problem. I have done the same.
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Winchester but not Durham?
There were different lists. I just wanted one that mentioned what was memorable about Notre Dame.

I didn't think St Pat's belonged on the list either. It was like they felt the need to include one from the US. They should have looked around South America.
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Originally Posted by Associated Press via Yahoo News
Paris police investigators think an electrical short-circuit most likely caused the fire at Notre Dame Cathedral, a police official said Thursday, as France paid a daylong tribute to the firefighters who saved the world-renowned landmark.

A judicial police official told The Associated Press that investigators made an initial assessment of the cathedral Wednesday but don't have a green light to search Notre Dame's charred interior because of ongoing safety hazards.

The cathedral's fragile walls were being shored up with wooden planks, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because he wasn't authorized to speak by name about an ongoing investigation.

Investigators so far believe the fire was accidental, and are questioning both cathedral staff and workers who were carrying out renovations. Some 40 people had been questioned by Thursday, according to the Paris prosecutor's office.

The police official would not comment on an unsourced report in Le Parisian newspaper that investigators are looking at whether the fire could have been linked to a computer glitch or the temporary elevators used in the renovation work, among other things. The prosecutor's office said only that "all leads must be explored."...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/france-ho...065303944.html
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The Washington National Cathedral is repairing earthquake damage with Legos -- in a manner of speaking.
https://cathedral.org/LEGO
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Winchester but not Durham?
Canterbury is my favorite.
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The Washington National Cathedral is repairing earthquake damage with Legos -- in a manner of speaking.
https://cathedral.org/LEGO
National Cathediral, though it was built to resemble a classic Gothic cathedrial as much as possible, was built using modern construction methods..not really comparable to Notre Dame.
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An American replied in French: Veuillez nous excuser pour notre crétin orange

Translation: Please excuse us for our orange moron
Isn't google translate wonderful?
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So it's a short circuit;one of the most common causes of fires, if not the most common.
But that will not stop the conspiracy kooks.
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Canterbury is my favorite.
I like Canterbury.

Norwich is my favourite. the view as you approach from the river is fantastic.
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National Cathediral, though it was built to resemble a classic Gothic cathedrial as much as possible, was built using modern construction methods..not really comparable to Notre Dame.
You literally just compared the National Cathedral to Notre Dame.

Also, I'm pretty sure "cathedral" isn't spelled with an "i" in either of the two places you're experimenting with.

With which you are experimenting.
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Westminster Cathedral has the added value of looking like a Mosque to easily-outraged knuckle-dragging UKIP supporters.
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