ISF Logo   IS Forum
Forum Index Register Members List Events Mark Forums Read Help

Go Back   International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics
 


Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today.
Tags Liberty University

Reply
Old 22nd May 2009, 06:32 PM   #1
drkitten
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 21,629
Liberty University bans College Democrats

Just in case you thought the Big Tent wasn't stiflingly narrow-minded enough:


Quote:
(CNN) Liberty University, the evangelical school in Virginia founded by the late Rev. Jerry Falwell, is drawing heat Friday for its decision to revoke recognition of the College Democrats' chapter on campus.

According to the Lynchburg News & Advance, the school decided a week ago the organization "stood against the moral principles" held by the school and therefore could no longer be sanctioned.
drkitten is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd May 2009, 06:37 PM   #2
Thunder
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 34,918
"moral principles"???

what..did they not want to lynch gays?
Thunder is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd May 2009, 06:39 PM   #3
drkitten
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 21,629
Originally Posted by parky76 View Post
"moral principles"???

what..did they not want to lynch gays?
I think they wanted to allow children to be killed before they were born, and wanted to prevent children from being killed afterwards. Both of which are anathema to the Christian Right.
drkitten is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 22nd May 2009, 06:48 PM   #4
Thunder
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 34,918
Originally Posted by drkitten View Post
I think they wanted to allow children to be killed before they were born, and wanted to prevent children from being killed afterwards. Both of which are anathema to the Christian Right.

Um, the Christian Right LOVED the Iraq War.

I have no problem with 3 day old organisms being killed.

Last edited by Thunder; 22nd May 2009 at 06:49 PM.
Thunder is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd May 2009, 07:09 PM   #5
Questioninggeller
Illuminator
 
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 3,048
Also discussion at this thread.
Questioninggeller is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd May 2009, 10:46 PM   #6
Skeptic
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Posts: 18,312
I hardly support this, but it is not any worse than banning the ROTC from campus, as so many "enlithened" and "progressive" universities do. "Tolerance" is, as we all know, a one-way street...

...anyway, to the point, it is obvious that the Democratic club IS in disagreement -- in its support of gay marriage and abortion, to name two issues -- with Liberty U.'s priniples. That this should not be a reason to ban them from campus, of course, is true, but a different issue.
Skeptic is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 23rd May 2009, 11:58 PM   #7
Tin Foil Timothy
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,089
Christianity is a vile cult. Thankfully most people who claim to be Christians are not true followers and cherry pick the dogma!!

Constantine has a lot to answer for!!!!
Tin Foil Timothy is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th May 2009, 12:11 AM   #8
332nd
Penultimate Amazing
 
332nd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,278


This is so funny because I spent several weekends at liberty in my undergrad (part I) days. The students weren't that religious then.
__________________
The poster formerly known as Redtail
332nd is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th May 2009, 12:17 AM   #9
corplinx
JREF Kid
 
corplinx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 8,952
They claim dinosaurs mingled with humans at Liberty U. It is basically a diploma mill but with a better budget than the tin shack ones. Is anyone surprised here?
__________________
Nothing Reportable Here
corplinx is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th May 2009, 12:46 PM   #10
drkitten
Penultimate Amazing
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 21,629
Originally Posted by Skeptic View Post
I hardly support this, but it is not any worse than banning the ROTC from campus,
Actually, it is, in several ways.

First of all, ROTC requires university support -- buildings, faculty, courses, and such. It typically costs a university to offer a ROTC program in much the same way that it costs the university to run a classics program. A student club, by contrast, requires little if any support; faculty are not compensated for their time and sponsorship and the rooms are literally sitting empty. Some universities will make funding available to clubs, others will not (or will allow student government to use student-generated activities fees, which are not "university" funds), but even that's not universal.

So there's a big difference between "we choose not to spend our limited resources in support of this" and "we choose not to permit others to support this."

Secondly, banning ROTC programs doesn't violate federal law concerning nonprofit neutrality w.r.t. political parties and candidates. Banning both the Republican and Democratic clubs would also not violate that law. But banning the Democratic club but not the Republican one is a violation of federal law.

I just hope one of the students at Liberty is aware of this and decides to raise the issue.
drkitten is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 24th May 2009, 01:46 PM   #11
Tin Foil Timothy
Banned
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 3,089
Originally Posted by corplinx View Post
They claim dinosaurs mingled with humans at Liberty U. It is basically a diploma mill but with a better budget than the tin shack ones. Is anyone surprised here?
What's laughable is that a prejudiced, bigoted religious cult starts a, cough, university and has the gall to call it 'Liberty'
Tin Foil Timothy is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Reply

International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:28 PM.
Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum began as part of the James Randi Education Foundation (JREF). However, the forum now exists as
an independent entity with no affiliation with or endorsement by the JREF, including the section in reference to "JREF" topics.

Disclaimer: Messages posted in the Forum are solely the opinion of their authors.