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Old 22nd October 2017, 11:11 AM   #1
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Study of educated professionals.

I am doing a study of educated professionals who still promote the moronic notion of a massive cover up in regard to the events of 911.

If this message made it through your foil hat it would be interesting if you could just post your age, education level, and place of residence.
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Old 22nd October 2017, 11:20 AM   #2
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End of thread.

Hopefully.
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I'm in my late 50s, have a doctorate and have been a professional scientist for ovr 30 years. But I'm not one of them, I'm one of the ones who knows they're full of crap.

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Old 23rd October 2017, 07:26 AM   #4
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I'm in my late 50s, have a doctorate and have been a professional scientist for ovr 30 years. But I'm not one of them, I'm one of the ones who knows they're full of crap.

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Correction they are not full of Crap, they are Crap, actually probably below crap on the evolutionar Scale.
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Old 23rd October 2017, 08:27 AM   #5
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Another individual who knows 9/11 is not a conspiracy and my profile has everything about me. I will list age 70, BS Petroleum Engineering living in Houston, Texas.
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I don't see this as being a successful study. But good luck!
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Originally Posted by Dr. Keith View Post
I don't see this as being a successful study. But good luck!


So, a perfect fit for 9/11 Truth research, then?
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Originally Posted by AJM8125 View Post
I am doing a study of educated professionals who still promote the moronic notion of a massive cover up in regard to the events of 911.

If this message made it through your foil hat it would be interesting if you could just post your age, education level, and place of residence.
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Old 25th October 2017, 02:59 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by AJM8125 View Post
I am doing a study of educated professionals who still promote the moronic notion of a massive cover up in regard to the events of 911.

If this message made it through your foil hat it would be interesting if you could just post your age, education level, and place of residence.
The demolition expert lady I briefly talked to at my old job who agreed that WTC 7 was a controlled demolition.

Age: 40's-50's

Education level: Demolition expert, hands-on experience setting "plastic explosives on columns", as she told me.

Residence: Somewhere in Texas. This was over a year ago.
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Old 25th October 2017, 03:08 PM   #10
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Education level: Demolition expert, hands-on experience setting "plastic explosives on columns", as she told me.
And you fell for it hook, line and sinker.............
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And you fell for it hook, line and sinker.............
She may have been dumbing it down a bit for me, a lowly food worker :P
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Old 25th October 2017, 03:15 PM   #12
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She may have been dumbing it down a bit for me, a lowly food worker :P
You should have slapped her for insulting your intelligence.
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Old 25th October 2017, 06:25 PM   #13
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She may have been dumbing it down a bit for me, a lowly food worker :P
You are saving your money up for college though, correct? If not, I really recommend the benefits of a first class education. A good chance to hone your critical thinking skills under the guidance of knowledgeable and skilled professionals.

Of course, I could be wrong about your situation, though. Fundamental attribution error, you know.
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Old 31st October 2017, 09:58 AM   #14
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I'm not a professional, but I have a B.A. Does that count?

(PS: I'm not a Troofer either.)
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I'm not a professional, but I have a B.A. Does that count?

(PS: I'm not a Troofer either.)
I would think a BA qualifies as professional.
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Old 31st October 2017, 10:05 AM   #16
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I would think a BA qualifies as professional.
In the truth movement it qualifies you as a world expert on a completely different subject.

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Old 31st October 2017, 12:29 PM   #17
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Troofers suck it through a tube!!!!!!! With complete pride in their intellectual FAIL!!!!!
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Originally Posted by MicahJava View Post
The demolition expert lady I briefly talked to at my old job who agreed that WTC 7 was a controlled demolition.

Age: 40's-50's

Education level: Demolition expert, hands-on experience setting "plastic explosives on columns", as she told me.

Residence: Somewhere in Texas. This was over a year ago.
Given that this information would be world-shaking, and result in the exposure of a massive and evil conspiracy, what did your lady friend do about it?
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Originally Posted by MicahJava View Post
The demolition expert lady I briefly talked to at my old job who agreed that WTC 7 was a controlled demolition.

Age: 40's-50's

Education level: Demolition expert, hands-on experience setting "plastic explosives on columns", as she told me.

Residence: Somewhere in Texas. This was over a year ago.
Did you ask her if she could have set up a controlled demolition of that building without making it obvious to the tenants in the building that she was doing so?
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Did you ask her if she could have set up a controlled demolition of that building without making it obvious to the tenants in the building that she was doing so?
I think you have to understand that, to MicahJava, the word "agreed" has a slightly different meaning to the rest of us; it generally tends to mean "totally disagreed, but said something that, when taken out of context and suitably distorted, comes close enough to disagreeing with the official story, albeit in a different way to the way I wanted it to, to pretend that she actually agreed." It's a subtle distinction that's sometimes easy to miss.

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I think you have to understand that, to MicahJava, the word "agreed" has a slightly different meaning to the rest of us; it generally tends to mean "totally disagreed, but said something that, when taken out of context and suitably distorted, comes close enough to disagreeing with the official story, albeit in a different way to the way I wanted it to, to pretend that she actually agreed." It's a subtle distinction that's sometimes easy to miss.

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I don't know what you're implying. I just asked that lady "Do you think Building Seven was a controlled demolition". I did not say World Trade Center. She understood what I meant, and said almost exactly this: "They say seven is a lucky number, but on nine-one-one it wasn't. I was in jail when that happened". When asked to specify if she really thought WTC 7 was a controlled demolition, she nodded, and smiled in a way that let me know that she knew what I was talking about.
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I am doing a study of educated professionals who still promote the moronic notion of a massive cover up in regard to the events of 911.

If this message made it through your foil hat it would be interesting if you could just post your age, education level, and place of residence.

I have a Masters Degree in Political Science and I can say with some degree of certainty that this isn't a very well-designed poll.
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I have a Masters Degree in Political Science and I can say with some degree of certainty that this isn't a very well-designed poll.
Was it the lack of the potato option?
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I don't know what you're implying. I just asked that lady "Do you think Building Seven was a controlled demolition". I did not say World Trade Center. She understood what I meant, and said almost exactly this: "They say seven is a lucky number, but on nine-one-one it wasn't. I was in jail when that happened". When asked to specify if she really thought WTC 7 was a controlled demolition, she nodded, and smiled in a way that let me know that she knew what I was talking about.
So she didn't say she agreed, then?
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I don't know what you're implying. I just asked that lady "Do you think Building Seven was a controlled demolition". I did not say World Trade Center. She understood what I meant, and said almost exactly this: "They say seven is a lucky number, but on nine-one-one it wasn't. I was in jail when that happened". When asked to specify if she really thought WTC 7 was a controlled demolition, she nodded, and smiled in a way that let me know that she knew what I was talking about.
In other words, precisely what I said you meant by "agreed". All I can do at this point is marvel at your extraordinary lack of self-awareness.

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Originally Posted by MicahJava View Post
I don't know what you're implying. I just asked that lady "Do you think Building Seven was a controlled demolition". I did not say World Trade Center. She understood what I meant, and said almost exactly this: "They say seven is a lucky number, but on nine-one-one it wasn't. I was in jail when that happened". When asked to specify if she really thought WTC 7 was a controlled demolition, she nodded, and smiled in a way that let me know that she knew what I was talking about.
Let me see ... this lady who had been in jail on 9/11 said that 7 wasn't a lucky number, and nodded and smiled in a mysterious way at the more direct question, and this was a significant moment for you?

Did she turn and quietly walk away, perhaps looking over her shoulder nervously?
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Let me see ... this lady who had been in jail on 9/11 said that 7 wasn't a lucky number, and nodded and smiled in a mysterious way at the more direct question, and this was a significant moment for you?

Did she turn and quietly walk away, perhaps looking over her shoulder nervously?
Of course, we can't accept this until we can track down this person and have her interviewed by investigators. The whole case could hinge on this. Anything less is simply disregarding the victims. Right?
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I don't know what you're implying. I just asked that lady "Do you think Building Seven was a controlled demolition". I did not say World Trade Center. She understood what I meant, and said almost exactly this: "They say seven is a lucky number, but on nine-one-one it wasn't. I was in jail when that happened". When asked to specify if she really thought WTC 7 was a controlled demolition, she nodded, and smiled in a way that let me know that she knew what I was talking about.
Look up "confirmation bias." Please read it multiple times.
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Of course, we can't accept this until we can track down this person and have her interviewed by investigators. The whole case could hinge on this. Anything less is simply disregarding the victims. Right?
This could be the one witness who blows the whole thing wide open for the truth movement! [1]

I'm also slightly interested what she was in jail for on 9/11. It might have some slight bearing on her credibility as a witness. [2]

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[1] Except, of course, that she didn't actually witness anything.
[2] See [1].
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This could be the one witness who blows the whole thing wide open for the truth movement! [1]

I'm also slightly interested what she was in jail for on 9/11. It might have some slight bearing on her credibility as a witness. [2]

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[1] Except, of course, that she didn't actually witness anything.
[2] See [1].
Why should this make any difference to MJ, the inference fits his conspiracy so he accepts it without questions.
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I know one, went to MIT, PhD from UCLA, was talking to him 3 days ago and he went on this. He mentioned certain of the usual stuff, but wasn't so keen on the Jews being involved. Take a guess why.
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I don't care for the phrase - holes in the official story... On the other hand it is not without some gaps... perhaps minor. For example... Why didn't security camera capture each of the hijackers in the airports? Or were there not many of them back then? How was the assessment that 7 would collapse made? Who actually made the call? How and when was the diesel fuel recovered? How much?
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Oh so many holes in the official story! E.g. NIST kept the public completely in the dark about the questions:
What was the largest piece of toilet bowl recovered from the rubble?
Why did the North Tower antenna fall? It was neither hit by a plane nor subjected to fires
Why did tjey not correct the angle at which UA175 hit wtc2? It's been showm by independent researchers to be 1 degree different fron NIST's fraudulent claim
What made the core spires collapse?
What was the purpose of #7 hitting Fiterman Hall? Was that really coincidence, or who profited?
They never studied the destruction if St. Nicholas church. What do they have to hide??
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Oh so many holes in the official story! E.g. NIST kept the public completely in the dark about the questions:
What was the largest piece of toilet bowl recovered from the rubble?
Why did the North Tower antenna fall? It was neither hit by a plane nor subjected to fires
Why did tjey not correct the angle at which UA175 hit wtc2? It's been showm by independent researchers to be 1 degree different fron NIST's fraudulent claim
What made the core spires collapse?
What was the purpose of #7 hitting Fiterman Hall? Was that really coincidence, or who profited?
They never studied the destruction if St. Nicholas church. What do they have to hide??
hahahahahahaha
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They never studied the destruction if St. Nicholas church. What do they have to hide??


Oh man, it's all clear to me now: Atheists Did 9/11!!!!11!!!!!1
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Oh man, it's all clear to me now: Atheists Did 9/11!!!!11!!!!!1
Silly.

St. Nicholas church was a Greek Orthodox church. The greatest enemy of any religious denomination is never atheists, nor religions with vastly different believes, but their almost indistinguishable next-of-kin brethren*.

I'd look at either the Russian Orthodoxy, or the Copts.
OMG, was Atta a closet Copt?!?

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* Anecdote, from memory, to illustrate the point:
Kiev's Saint Sophia's Cathedral, a UNESCO World Heritage site, is administered by the secular state, and its premises are made available to the various church denominations on an equal rights basis. But both the Ukrainean Orthodix church and the Russian Orthodox church have serious claims on the cathedral, and eye with great suspicion and envy the priviliges the other church seems to be getting.
Wikipedia: "Although all of the Orthodox churches have been allowed to conduct services at different dates, at other times they are denied access. A severe incident was the funeral of Patriarch Volodymyr of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church - Kiev Patriarchy in 1995, when riot police were forced to prevent the burial on the premises of the museum and a bloody clash took place.[citation needed]"
What Wikipedia doesn't tell you is that the Ukrainian Orthodox rioters, when prevented from entering the cathedral's premises, tore open the public pavement just outside the main gate, perhaps 30 steps away, and spontaneously buried the Patriarch there - and that's where his grave is to this day! "Splitters!", I say, thinking of the Life of Brian, because that's exactly how that animosity between the two Orthodox churches feels.
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I don't care for the phrase - holes in the official story... On the other hand it is not without some gaps... perhaps minor. For example... Why didn't security camera capture each of the hijackers in the airports? Or were there not many of them back then? How was the assessment that 7 would collapse made? Who actually made the call? How and when was the diesel fuel recovered? How much?
Never lose sight of the strong analogy between the processes of debates "truthers v accepted narratives" and "creationists v evolutionary science".

"Over there" in the creationist v evolution camp those "holes in the official story" are the gaps in the fossil record. Plug one hole by producing a transition fossil and LO - there are TWO GAPS in the record.

And - compared with creationists - truthers are relative novices at finding gaps.


...and "they" are far better fund raisers than even Gage and AE911

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45 year old structural engineer. 9/11 was a conspiracy involving a dozen or so primarily Saudi citizens.
To be precise: 15 Saudis, 2 Emiratis, 1 Egyptian, and one Sunni Lebanese national. Additionally, there were several other Saudis (Osama bin Laden of course), a few Egyptians (Ayman al-Zawahiri and Mohammed Atef), a few Yemenis (Ramzi Bin al-Shibh chief among them), and a Kuwaiti of Balochi-Pakistani descent (Khalid Skeikh Mohammed) who were directly involved in the planning and execution of the plot, and maybe a few others who were intimately involved with aspects of planning, training, funding, and/or facilitating the so-called "Planes Operation."

And there were scores more of Al-Qaeda and Taliban-affiliated jihadis in training camps and elsewhere in the world, and donors to jidahis and other tacit supporters and sympathizers (including very likely a significant Saudi-sponsored support network of clerics and even some government support both within the US and outside the US that had direct and/or indirect ties to bin Laden, along with several people in Pakistani intelligence and perhaps various agents and employees of some other governments in the Islamic world) who knew or at least had some idea that something was going to happen in the late summer or early fall months of 2001 - something big, like, oh, I don't know, a major attack or attacks of some sort on American and/or other Western targets, perhaps?

But overall, besides the 19 hijackers, I would be surprised if more than like, 10-12 people (including bin Laden himself) knew the full details of the "Planes Operation." Even that number is fairly large for a successful terrorist conspiracy - but then again, the 9/11 attacks were pretty large and complex as a terrorist operation - which is why there were so many warning signs, red flags, and dots that unfortunately, weren't connected in time.

By all accounts, many people in the CIA, the FBI, etc. were absolutely certain that (again) something big was going to happen, but they only had pieces of the puzzle, and there was a LOT of noise - the system was "blinking red" in the spring and summer of 2001, after all! But that meant that there were a lot more threats, or reports of threats, that were coming in every day that were NOT verifiable, if not false alarms themselves. Again - separate the BS from the real stuff. Easy to say "well it was obvious" with hindsight, but hindsight means ****** in real-time.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if bin Laden and co. were actively planning a "second wave" of major attacks after 9/11 - I'm certain that they thought about it! But obviously, the CIA, Special Forces, and Northern Alliance (to start with) threw a big wrench in whatever else al-Qaeda might have planned and possibly implemented after 9/11, to put it mildly...

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