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Old 15th February 2018, 03:55 AM   #41
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
You've never seen the "God Is My Co-Pilot" stickers? God being in the passenger seat could explain the lower rates.
The problem is when they let him drive while they take a break.

I think that particular sticker is more an American thing than a British one.

In other news

Jesus built my car
It's a love affair
Mainly Jesus and my hot rod
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Old 15th February 2018, 04:11 AM   #42
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Well, we know for a fact that the reason for fewer religious people dying in traffic accidents can't be divine intervention, because the Bible says God is powerless against cars:

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"And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." - Judges 1:19
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Old 15th February 2018, 05:35 AM   #43
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When the life insurance companies are convinced there is something to this - when they start offering religious people cheaper life insurance premiums because, all other things being equal, they are less likely to die in accidents than non believers - let me know. Until then I will remain sceptical.
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Old 15th February 2018, 07:38 AM   #44
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Originally Posted by Swordfishtrombone View Post
Just Baptists and Adventists? That's bizarre - the overwhelmingly dominant denomination in Denmark, as in all over Scandinavia, is Lutheran. I'm pretty sure Baptists and Adventists make up a tiny minority of the religious people in Denmark.

Of course, the majority that are Lutheran on the books aren't very religious at all - I suspect that people who identify as belonging to one of the more minor denominations, will tend to be more religious. But there really aren't that many of them in Denmark. Just checked the wikipedia entry on Denmark, and 75.9% of the population are members of the Church of Denmark, that is Lutheran. (The vast majority of whom don't regularly attend church services, and only 19% consider religion important to their lives.)

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There aren't more than a couple of thousand Baptists in Denmark. I grew up at Skotlands Plads (2300 S), next to the Baptist Købnerkirken where a lot of children from my block used to go for Sunday school, not because we or our parents were Baptists, but because we enjoyed their songs and tales from the Bible.
Danish journalist Øjvind Kyrø is a Baptist, but he's also responsible for two of the best skeptical TV programmes Forført (Seduced, about Sai Baba), and Fornemmelse for snyd (A Sense of Fraud, a mini series that tested different kinds of paranormal claims):


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Old 16th February 2018, 09:00 PM   #45
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Originally Posted by steenkh View Post
Unfortunately, the article is behind a paywall, and it is in Danish, so for most readers here, it is irrelevant anyway: Hvorfor dør religiøse mennesker sjældent i trafikken? Passer Gud på dem?
The title translates as "Why do religious people rarely die in road accidents? Does God protect them?". ..
For the same reason Why drunken drivers are more likely to survive a crash.

Driving while impaired.
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Old 17th February 2018, 07:35 AM   #46
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Originally Posted by mgidm86 View Post
You've never seen the "God Is My Co-Pilot" stickers? God being in the passenger seat could explain the lower rates.
The driver lives but the passenger dies because the air bags fail to deploy. God really IS dead!
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Old 18th February 2018, 02:53 AM   #47
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Maybe religious people tend to drive at 50% of the speed limit and cause frustration and accidents around them but aren't involved in the accidents themselves, or aren't driving fast enough to be seriously injured if they are in an accident?
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Old 18th February 2018, 03:45 AM   #48
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Originally Posted by alexi_drago View Post
Maybe religious people tend to drive at 50% of the speed limit and cause frustration and accidents around them but aren't involved in the accidents themselves, or aren't driving fast enough to be seriously injured if they are in an accident?
I wasn't going to be quite so blunt, but that's not 100% away from what I was alluding to earlier. My entirely subjective experience is also that they're more likely to be erratic with right of way, whether it's pulling out in front of other cars when they don't have right of way or stopping suddenly at inappropriate times to cede right of way. For balance I'd also point out that the driver with whom I feel safest (and I've been in his car in very adverse conditions) is very religious (Evangelical Christian). It seems really to be down to age and the demographics of religion rather than the religious belief itself, but when I see a religious symbol I become extra cautious (same if they have a 'driving hat').

The big exception is Sikh religious symbols, if I see one of these on a car, or sometimes vans, they are most often young men and driven in a 'confident' manner. I particularly remember a particularly badly driven van on the A40/M40, but other than that they haven't struck me as being particularly better or worse than average.

Oh, and anyone with a load of stuff hanging from the rear view mirror or a rear window full of stuffed animals gets a really wide berth...
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Old 19th February 2018, 09:53 PM   #49
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Yard signs seem to have been gaining in popularity around here.

This one in particular;

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...355a800023.jpg
You've seen the signs alarm companies put up on the grass of houses they service? That one is from the lawn-care guy.
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If one considers a person screaming "Jesus F'n Christ!" out loud just before a collision then that would skew the numbers in religion's favor a tad. Happened to me just a few weeks ago, except I said "Gawdamn Muth..." BOOM!!! I'm not religious.
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Old 20th February 2018, 10:14 PM   #51
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You've seen the signs alarm companies put up on the grass of houses they service? That one is from the lawn-care guy.
Or for him. Thank you "Hey-soos"!
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Old 3rd March 2018, 01:27 PM   #52
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Really, often see the fish on the back of cars. Probably a couple of times a week.

From my observation there seems to be fewer of them on cars these days than a few years ago in OZ.

Some years ago I borrowed one of my god bothering brother's cars for a week when visiting. It had one of those fishy things on the back, and a number of times I was passed by cars full of waving folk with smiling faces - how embarrassing.

Back to the subject matter, I imagine the Amish don't have too many traffic deaths.
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Back to the subject matter, I imagine the Amish don't have too many traffic deaths.
True.
But they probably lead the nation in "half built barn walls falling on them".




(eta: A runaway carriage is quite dangerous, there've been plenty of Amish etc. deaths from such... though I have no idea of the frequency. Mixing horse and modern tourist auto traffic can be dodgy.)
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True.
But they probably lead the nation in "half built barn walls falling on them".

Under Amish Health and Safety Laws they stand so the wall falls around them and they're left standing in the window frame.
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Under Amish Health and Safety Laws they stand so the wall falls around them and they're left standing in the window frame.
Yes, I've seen early last century documentaries on that.

Quite amazing, though I usually found them amusing.
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