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By the way? This weird substance that they allegedly poured on our hero?
Betcha a nickel that it comes back as calcium chloride.... |
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Yes, I thought that was already established since he didn't have the string around his neck at the Subway. However, early reporting by TMZ(?) said something like he was beaten up on his way to Subway giving the impression that the attack had occurred before he arrived at Subway.
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I find it curious that the MAGA Country hate crime doers did all this in the sixty seconds before he got in the building, but our hero did not ask for help from building security which might have, you know, led to them identifying and maybe catching the hate crime doers?
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Well, no, but I thought that I might have missed some information somewhere. You know that not everyone is coming at this as 'confirm my bias!', right?
It could be important who is claiming what. Smollett could have been wrong about what it was if he claimed it was bleach, but it doesn't appear he ever claimed that. It would be bad for people to be calling his account a lie on the basis that it couldn't have been bleach when he never claimed it was. Also, the police could be mistaken on the smell as well. |
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With the lack of photographic evidence, I think it's obvious at this point, he was attacked by a bigfoot. Actually, I guess it was two bigfoot. What's the plural of bigfoot? Bigfeet?
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2.8 per 1,000 would indeed be rare. You're forgetting that the crime itself is rare, and then only 1 in 9 of that rare event meets the parameter that you are considering.
Rare - dude gets mugged Even rarer - dude gets mugged by member of another race Not to mention getting mugged in that neighborhood is much rarer than it would be elsewhere. |
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Not impossible, but somewhat unlikely. It's like a textbook racist crime, with all the pertinent features crammed into 60 seconds of time which were not recorded on CCTV and which were not witnessed by anybody else.
This appears to have been a concern to Mr Smollett too, on reflection, because some time afterwards he and his manager make a statement that they were speaking on the phone at the time of the attack and the manager heard what went on and exactly what was said. Strangely enough, Mr Smollett refuses to hand over his phone records to the cops so they can verify this evidence which, at the current time, is the only piece of alleged evidence in the entire case. |
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The family of Jussie Smollett says the “Empire” actor was the target of “domestic terrorism” in Tuesday’s
scratch on cheek = Domestic terrorism oy vey.... |
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I don't recall saying that it didn't happen? I was responding to another poster who seems to think that we are all getting mugged by white guys all over the place in "urban America."
I ran the crime stats on the Chicago Police website. In a one-mile diameter circle around the address where this happened, there were 2 robberies, 1 aggravated assault and 1 aggravated battery in the 2 weeks prior. This includes the Magnificent Mile shopping district, where is a metric **** ton of foot traffic. ![]() |
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I read early on that Smollett wasn't cooperating with police in the role of what would be expected for a crime victim. He didn't want to help with the investigation. Then later read that he is cooperating. Maybe at first he didn't want to and then later did.
One example might be that he didn't talk about the MAGA thing with police but only did later after one of his acquaintances talked about it publicly. A variety of things suggest to me that he never wanted the lie to be known to the police or the public. He did not want to risk being found out that he had lied. He only wanted that guy in the condo to hear the lie. Whatever he had to gain from telling the lie was going to come from that condo guy. If there was to be risk of being discovered as a liar it was going to come from that condo guy. Nobody else. |
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Really, the actual skeptical position is "the police are investigating, let's wait and see what they find." I don't really trust a PD that very recently conspired to cover up a murder by one of their own, but since we're discussing a celebrity here, I expect they'll be on their best behavior.
Again, my opinion will not change anything, so I'm perfectly happy to say I hope they catch the guys who did this - and change my opinion *if* it turns out to be a hoax. But like Tyr said, "that sounds unlikely to me." is simply not a good reason to think that it's a hoax, and such hoaxes are statistically rare compared to actual hate crimes (same as with rape, robbery, shootings, and every other crime), so may as well play the odds. Eh, it's a thread about a black guy, and as always, some of the participants put their hatred of black people above all else. I know who they are, have known who they are for years, so I've long since stopped reading their racist crap. If they find it implausible that what I said would be a concern, they're just showing who they are, yet again. |
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That the thing about the Chicago Police Department;it never gets any better, only the scandals they are involved with change. Back in the 1920's practically the wholr force was on Al Capone's payroll.
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Ok.
They said the air temperature was around 5F. Body heat might keep the bleach unfrozen when in a pocket or even on clothing. If the bleach was liquid when tossed on his clothes I would expect the clothes to become ruined before the temperature stopped the bleach from doing anything. Plus he's back indoors fairly quickly anyway. |
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Were the two doods in whatever video seen sitting on the bench reading the morning newspaper early edition. How cold was it and what are they doing sitting on that bench? And for how long. I know whenever I mugged someone I always sat on a bench and tried to look casual for a while, but that was in warmer seasons. I think we have a bench-gap that needs to be examined.
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With regards to handing over the phone (the reporting doesn't have a lot of context and sometimes it says phone, sometimes phone records), I've actually thought about similar scenarios rather often. I probably wouldn't just hand it over to CPD. In addition, the majority of hate crimes go unreported. How "compliant" an alleged victim is doesn't seem like a reliable metric to me.
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There are three possible outcomes from this:
He got attacked and most or all of the story is true. If so, I'll admit that I was wrong. The story is a lie and it's to cover up something he considers even more embarassing. I that case I will say "Told ya!" It's actually something no one even thought of. I'm open to all possibilities. In any case it's unfortunate that he sustained some injuries. |
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Oh baby, you knew it was coming. Chicago police bad! Going back to the 1920s even
Here is the Chicago police superintendent https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_T._Johnson Uh oh, black superintendent! But maybe the state’s attorney hates the black! Uh oh. Grifters gonna grift |
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You don’t have to hand over the phone. Just a screenshot of the web page showing your account activity reflecting the call with your manager would do. Like, I’m not famous but even if I suspected the local PD would leak my friends numbers, I would probably do at least this to corroborate my story. If I’m attacked, i want the culprits caught. I will cooperate 100% with anything the cops need from me. When I don’t...skepticism is warranted. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I'm thinking Condo Guy is a whistleblower. Had enough of Smollett's habitual fabulism, and decides enough is enough. Calls his bluff, and calls the cops.
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