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Old 9th November 2017, 10:34 PM   #1
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Rand Paul Attacked

http://www.businessinsider.com/myste...ighbor-2017-11

This is certainly an odd one. Supposedly, it wasn't politically motivated? Hmmm...

(The alleged attacker has a sort of Putin thing going on, anyone else see it?)

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.f66bdc37e60d

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Old 9th November 2017, 10:41 PM   #2
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Six broken ribs? Not political? I say someone was banging someone's wife.

Other bits of wild speculation are welcome.
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Old 9th November 2017, 10:55 PM   #3
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It's a neighbor, everyone (including people in areas where neighbors are separated by miles) has at least one crazy neighbor with the potential to get violent over the dumbest little thing, and that should be pretty much the end of any interest. Unless Paul threatened or attacked the neighbor first, is there really any explanation that would make sense?
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Old 10th November 2017, 12:48 AM   #4
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Six broken ribs? Not political? I say someone was banging someone's wife.

Other bits of wild speculation are welcome.
You guys have apparently never had a creepy-neighbor dispute. They are more common than they should be. Feuds over blowing your leaves onto their side of the line can last decades. Watch a few episodes of Cops, it's very enlightening.
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Old 10th November 2017, 02:46 AM   #5
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I find it interesting that Paul is keeping so silent on it though. If it really was just leaves you'd think he'd already have talked about it in a press conference. That makes me think it is actually over something he doesn't want to get out.
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Old 10th November 2017, 02:55 AM   #6
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He's a libertarian, so shouldn't he prefer this way of settling a dispute to calling the Statist cops?
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Good morning. I've read that the neighbor tackled Paul from behind while Paul was riding his lawn mower. Maybe Paul was cutting his grass at 3:00am or something?
I've also heard that they had a long standing dispute where they neighbor claims that Paul's yard is a total mess and it's been making it hard for this guy to sell his own house.
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Old 10th November 2017, 04:57 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
You guys have apparently never had a creepy-neighbor dispute. They are more common than they should be. Feuds over blowing your leaves onto their side of the line can last decades. Watch a few episodes of Cops, it's very enlightening.

Well, duh! You should be using a broom and picking up the leaves not blowing them over to the neighbors side of the street.
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He's a libertarian, so shouldn't he prefer this way of settling a dispute to calling the Statist cops?
As a libertarian, his refusal to respect his neighbor's property rights when he blew leaves on his lawn is off brand.
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
He's a libertarian, so shouldn't he prefer this way of settling a dispute to calling the Statist cops?
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I'm with Travis on this one.
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This is a strange one.

Usually when a politician is injured by another person by whatever mechanism it quickly becomes part of their portfolio and it gets wrung for every advantage - Paul is playing it quiet - and it sometimes becomes some sort of plank in the politicians's political agenda - no signs yet.

Either Paul is a hell of a lot more grounded than I have given him credit for, or there is a bigger story here than is being acknowledged.
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I've also heard that they had a long standing dispute where they neighbor claims that Paul's yard is a total mess and it's been making it hard for this guy to sell his own house.
Surely that would mean that the last thing he'd do is attack Paul when he finally got around to yardwork?
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Good morning. I've read that the neighbor tackled Paul from behind while Paul was riding his lawn mower. Maybe Paul was cutting his grass at 3:00am or something?
I've also heard that they had a long standing dispute where they neighbor claims that Paul's yard is a total mess and it's been making it hard for this guy to sell his own house.
That is not an excuse whether true or not. Unless local zoning laws make it illegal his yard can be as messy as he wishes it to be!!!!
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Old 10th November 2017, 10:21 PM   #15
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I'm with Travis on this one.
Nah, I say crazy neighbor. I don't think Paul did anything like cheat on a spouse.

What is fourth degree assault? Breaking six ribs and other injuries isn't first or even third?

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Boucher appeared in court Thursday and entered a plea of not guilty to a misdemeanor charge that could land him in jail for a year.
Paul has an attorney so maybe he's not an idiot like a lot of people and is keeping his mouth shut. Funny how keeping quiet is practically an admission of guilt here
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That is not an excuse whether true or not. Unless local zoning laws make it illegal his yard can be as messy as he wishes it to be!!!!
It's a fancy gated community and they are both doctors. There may be covenants in the deed regarding appearance of yards. That said, I'm guessing Paul's yard was not such a mess. Perhaps the other guy didn't think he mowed it often enough due to being away in Washington. Or maybe Paul's mower was spraying clippings on the other guy's yard. Apparently there had been a bit of a long-standing dispute.
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As a libertarian, his refusal to respect his neighbor's property rights when he blew leaves on his lawn is off brand.
His political philosophy is "**** you, I got mine". I fail to see how it would be off brand.
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I agree it is strange. Particularly the fact that Paul is keeping so quiet about it. There was a quote in an article I read from one of his people that basically said he was embarrassed by the encounter.

Even if true, you'd have expected him to give a press conference while taking a light-hearted, self-defaming stance to try to diffuse the thing and put it to bed. But, the normally camera-loving Paul hasn't been seen since the encounter. I know he's hurt, but it's broken ribs, not a perforated colon. He could surely answer a few questions.

There's more to this than we know yet.
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I think the likely explanation is that Rand Paul is an insufferable asshat.
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I think the likely explanation is that Rand Paul is an insufferable asshat.


Were I his neighbour, I must admit Id be looking for an excuse to twat him.
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5'll get you 10 that RP swung first, got his wee clock cleaned, and is too embarassed to want the truth to come out.
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I agree it is strange. Particularly the fact that Paul is keeping so quiet about it. There was a quote in an article I read from one of his people that basically said he was embarrassed by the encounter.

Even if true, you'd have expected him to give a press conference while taking a light-hearted, self-defaming stance to try to diffuse the thing and put it to bed. But, the normally camera-loving Paul hasn't been seen since the encounter. I know he's hurt, but it's broken ribs, not a perforated colon. He could surely answer a few questions.

There's more to this than we know yet.
Paul being quiet about it isn't strange, it's smart. He's letting the legal process work. Holding press conferences would be stupid; and possibly let the assailant off the hook.
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Paul being quiet about it isn't strange, it's smart. He's letting the legal process work. Holding press conferences would be stupid; and possibly let the assailant off the hook.
Of course.

I just wanna know what the hell the neighbor did to break ribs like that.
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Of course.

I just wanna know what the hell the neighbor did to break ribs like that.
Tackled him off a lawn tractor and landed on him.
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Six broken ribs? Not political? I say someone was banging someone's wife.

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Seems to be a long running dispute over proper gardening. Though Paul is certainly making nods at trying to present it as politically motivated by linking to Breitbart articles saying such.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer...g-related.html
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I believe the center house here may be Senator Paul's. Don't know which neighbor.
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Tackled him off a lawn tractor and landed on him.
Or Paul tried to pummel the steering wheel with his chest.
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I believe the center house here may be Senator Paul's. Don't know which neighbor.

Looks McMansionesque. What's the light colored material on the driveway? No fences between the properties that's where it all went wrong.
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The Senator is returning to work although he is apparently still in a good deal of pain, and still reluctant to shed any light on what it was all about:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ra...rticle/2640560

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The two-term senator said that he hasn’t talked to Boucher in a decade. “My first encounter was basically being hit in the back,” he said. “We’ve never had words over anything, we’ve never had a dispute or discussion or words,” added Paul, who was at the Republicans' Congressional Baseball Game practice when members under fire by a gunman angry at the GOP.

Paul said in this case, “there is going to be a criminal prosecution,” and felt limited in what he could or wanted to say about the case.
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Rand probably picked a fight, and got one.
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Rand probably picked a fight, and got one.
What makes you think that?
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It’s totally obvious why he did it, he’s a leftist, this is what they do.
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Rand probably picked a fight, and got one.
Evidence?
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What makes you think that?
Because he's a smug alpha hotel.
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All of the reports I've seen say that the senator was attacked unprovoked. So no, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that he "picked a fight" other than your wishing it to be true. He was on his own property mowing his lawn.
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I believe the center house here may be Senator Paul's. Don't know which neighbor.
CNN has a video with an aerial view of both houses:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/06/po...ney/index.html

Paul's house might be across the street from there, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Because he's a smug alpha hotel.
That ought to be good enough for anyone!

I hope the neighbor sues Rand Paul for false arrest and calls you as an expert witness. Don't go acting like a smug alpha hotel on the witness stand.
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Because he's a smug alpha hotel.
Well yeah, he's a Senator. He ran for President. That's not a reason for someone to attack him.
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The Senator is returning to work although he is apparently still in a good deal of pain, and still reluctant to shed any light on what it was all about

That seems incredibly odd, unless either he was wrong, or was involved in a childish thing pushing the guy's buttons.
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That seems incredibly odd, unless either he was wrong, or was involved in a childish thing pushing the guy's buttons.
What seems odd? I'm sure both men can afford very good lawyers, and those lawyers are probably telling them to say as little as possible in public and let the lawyers handle it. There will be a criminal case, but probably also a lawsuit, so that's probably why he doesn't want to say too much about it.
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