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Old 13th November 2017, 12:04 PM   #1
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Amazon Is Making a Lord of the Rings Prequel Series

Amazon Is Making a Lord of the Rings Prequel Series

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Amazon announced today that it is making a Lord of the Rings TV series. Although the company’s own press release says the series will “adapt” J.R.R. Tolkien’s novels, that turns out not to be quite the case. Rather, the series, for which Amazon has acquired a “multi-season” commitment from the Tolkien estate and HarperCollins, “will explore new storylines preceding J.R.R. Tolkien’s The Fellowship of the Ring”—and presumably not the same storylines preceding The Fellowship of the Ring that have already been explored in The Hobbit.
Simarillion? As a whole, I don't think it could be a comprehensible series, but portions of it (Beren and Luthien, for example) could make for a nice discrete storyline.

Or, will we just end up with more mindless CGI epic battles with no meaningful character development or plot to connect them?
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Old 13th November 2017, 12:38 PM   #2
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I would love to watch a screen adaptation of Farmer Giles of Ham with its parody of many of the basic elements of The Lord of the Rings: the noble, unselfish heroes and rulers of Middle Earth.
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Old 13th November 2017, 01:22 PM   #3
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A Shadow of Mordor adaptation would be boss.
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Old 13th November 2017, 07:09 PM   #4
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Breaking Bard...

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It won't be The Silmarillion. At best, it might adapt certain individual tales from it (Turin Turambar springs to mind) but it certainly won't be the whole thing.

I think it's more likely that it'll be generic fantasy stories set in Middle Earth. And while I think we do need more decently-made fantasy on our screens (most of what's available now is absolutely terrible), I am not certain that this is the way to do it.
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Episode 1:

Join us as we watch cute little hobbits having a party. Laugh at how down-to-earth they are.

Episode 2: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 3: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 4: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 5: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 6: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 7: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

.....snip....

Episode 24: Watch as the band of misfits find out they've been going in the wrong direction for the last 22 episodes.

Season 2:

Episode 1: Watch as the band of misfits retrace their footsteps...........
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Old 14th November 2017, 01:23 AM   #8
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I am really fascinated by this news as I am sure Christopher Tolkien is still a major influence in TE. Unless at the age of 92 he has been pushed aside, I am simply amazed that the TE has sold the rights to works not previously released, if this is what has actually occurred.

I await more details eagerly
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I hope Peter Jackson is not involved in any way, shape or form.
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Old 14th November 2017, 02:28 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Episode 1:

Join us as we watch cute little hobbits having a party. Laugh at how down-to-earth they are.

Episode 2: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 3: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 4: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 5: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 6: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 7: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

.....snip....

Episode 24: Watch as the band of misfits find out they've been going in the wrong direction for the last 22 episodes.

Season 2:

Episode 1: Watch as the band of misfits retrace their footsteps...........
every episode with a new monster to defeat or new people to meet!

Neither of which will ever reappear in following episodes!
(or am I channeling the 70's and 80's a bit too much now?)

You will be amazed by the world they travel through. You will laugh at their antics. You will cry! You will sing! You will dance!

(Lord of the Rings, the Bollywood version)
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Old 14th November 2017, 02:37 AM   #11
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Amazon Is Making a Lord of the Rings Prequel Series



Simarillion? As a whole, I don't think it could be a comprehensible series, but portions of it (Beren and Luthien, for example) could make for a nice discrete storyline.

Or, will we just end up with more mindless CGI epic battles with no meaningful character development or plot to connect them?
Just like the Hobbit movies and the LOTR films then?
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Old 14th November 2017, 02:43 AM   #12
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I am guessing generic fantasy set in the Second Age or Third Age up to the fall of Angmar.
Or maybe even the Second Age.

Lots of big blank spaces to fill in.
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Old 14th November 2017, 02:45 AM   #13
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..snip...

Or, will we just end up with more mindless CGI epic battles with no meaningful character development or plot to connect them?
Depends - if they keep to the "spirit" of the books you can again expect no meaningful character development or plot* so we might as well have some CGI to look at. Hopefully they'll ignore the "spirit" of the books and actually create interesting stories with interesting characters.



*Not quite a criticism given what Tolkien claimed he was trying to do with the books.
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Old 14th November 2017, 02:51 AM   #14
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I hope Peter Jackson is not involved in any way, shape or form.
I hope they hire the entire cast and crew of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys, and Xena: Warrior Princess. And have the same production budget...

Ted Raimi as Young Gollum!
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Old 14th November 2017, 03:13 AM   #15
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I am hoping for 'Hawk the Slayer' quality
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"We don't have the rights to Aarogon or Legolas, so good news! More Tom Bombadil!"
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Old 14th November 2017, 04:25 AM   #17
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Would be interesting to see the Fall of Numenor, and I am sure more than a few people would read into it about current political events...
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"We don't have the rights to Aarogon or Legolas, so good news! More Tom Bombadil!"
Noooo!!!

Lord of the Rings - The Snooze Fest.
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Originally Posted by Tomtomkent View Post
"We don't have the rights to Aarogon or Legolas, so good news! More Tom Bombadil!"
I always imagined Iggy Pop as Tom Bombardier, of course these days he could deprive Andy Serkis and Industrial Light and Magic of their livelihoods instead.
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Would be interesting to see the Fall of Numenor, and I am sure more than a few people would read into it about current political events...
Or the decline of Gondor.
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I always imagined Iggy Pop as Tom Bombardier, of course these days he could deprive Andy Serkis and Industrial Light and Magic of their livelihoods instead.
Tom Bombarier, Dark Lord of Canadian airliners. He must opposed by the forces of Boeing.
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Episode 1:

Join us as we watch cute little hobbits having a party. Laugh at how down-to-earth they are.

Episode 2: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 3: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 4: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 5: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 6: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

Episode 7: Watch as the band of misfits travel to wherever it is they are meant to be traveling to.

.....snip....

Episode 24: Watch as the band of misfits find out they've been going in the wrong direction for the last 22 episodes.

Season 2:

Episode 1: Watch as the band of misfits retrace their footsteps...........
So they're going to base it on Star Trek: Voyager?

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Hobbit Babies.
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Expect it to be a 'Game of Thrones' knock of where the plot is concerned.
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If it has balrogs I'll watch it.
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If it has balrogs I'll watch it.
Even if they ['ve got / haven't got] wings, according to which side you're on?

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Even if they ['ve got / haven't got] wings, according to which side you're on?

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We will find out that only the females have wings.
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Even if they ['ve got / haven't got] wings, according to which side you're on?

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Some do. Some don’t. Like ants. Giant, demonic ants.
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We will find out that only the females have wings.
If they based it on that, it might well be worth watching.

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How about hot dwarf sex? Try to tell the males from the females!

Lets face it, we didn’t get much lovin’ in Tolkien.
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How about hot dwarf sex? Try to tell the males from the females!

Lets face it, we didn’t get much lovin’ in Tolkien.
I always worried about Elf sex in those books. What with them being near-immortal why isn't the place crawling with them? Excellent contraception or do they 'just say no' rather a lot? "Not this century, Celeborn. I have a headache"
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(Lord of the Rings, the Bollywood version)
I've been watching a bit of Bollywood movies lately (the local Indian grocery store sells them for 50 cents), and listening to Bollywood music, along with Indo-European fusion (Bombay Dub Orchestra). I could totally get into LOTR with a South Asian twist to it.

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Just like the Hobbit movies and the LOTR films then?
You caught my criticism of them, especially Hobbit movies. I hope the Hobbit is first up to be remade again. Maybe the third time will be the charm.

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I hope they hire the entire cast and crew of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys, and Xena: Warrior Princess. And have the same production budget...

Ted Raimi as Young Gollum!
I could do without Kevin Sorbo again. He was good (really good) in that role, but is pretty insufferable in real life. Squeeze Lucy Lawless back into that outfit any day, though.

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Expect it to be a 'Game of Thrones' knock of where the plot is concerned.
That's a thing - a lot of the current non-broadcast TV shows have a whole lot of sex in them, lots of nudity. They'll have to skip that, LOTR was pretty near celibate.
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Only pretty near celibate?!

I know that several characters have parents as well as children, but I always assumed that the great eagles brought the babies.
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... I always assumed that the great eagles brought the babies.
That's just a really stupid idea.


Its' the Ents. They have herds of cabbage plants. When one of the great cabbage herds settles down for a few days near your village, you can go in and collect a baby or two.

Then the Ents herd the great cabbage patch on, ever on throughout.....



Okay, the eagles are as good of an idea as any.
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Breaking Bard...

Better Call Sauron...

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Nazgul
- The Witch King gives up his lordship of Cirith Ungol and gets an apartment/nightclub in Minas Tirith, teaming up with an oblivious Elf detective to solve crimes in Gondor.

The Shire
- Gritty tales of life in the weed infested holes of Hobbitimore.
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Nazgul
- The Witch King gives up his lordship of Cirith Ungol and gets an apartment/nightclub in Minas Tirith, teaming up with an oblivious Elf detective to solve crimes in Gondor.

The Shire
- Gritty tales of life in the weed infested holes of Hobbitimore.
Gondolin's Got Talent
- Hidden Kingdom, hidden talent...

Real Housewives of Rivendell
- Immortal wives, the rivalry never dies...

The Axe Factor
- Dwarves once again rip-off the Elves by stealing their idea for a talent quest...
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Interesting that some people are assuming a priori that the writing is going to be the crappiest it could possibly be. There are lots of good writers working in the industry, but obviously this particular project won't attract any of them and will instead be staffed by the worst kind of hacks.
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Interesting that some people are assuming a priori that the writing is going to be the crappiest it could possibly be. There are lots of good writers working in the industry, but obviously this particular project won't attract any of them and will instead be staffed by the worst kind of hacks.
Seriously, I'd love to see a well made series about the various stories from The Silmarillion etc. There are many ways they could do this and I hope they manage to do it well. I'm reserving judgement until I see it.
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Seriously, I'd love to see a well made series about the various stories from The Silmarillion etc. There are many ways they could do this and I hope they manage to do it well. I'm reserving judgement until I see it.
Indeed. There are plenty of possible stories - not just from the Silmarillion, but from other lore as well - it would be good to see these done justice.
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