ISF Logo   IS Forum
Forum Index Register Members List Events Mark Forums Read Help

Go Back   International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics
 


Welcome to the International Skeptics Forum, where we discuss skepticism, critical thinking, the paranormal and science in a friendly but lively way. You are currently viewing the forum as a guest, which means you are missing out on discussing matters that are of interest to you. Please consider registering so you can gain full use of the forum features and interact with other Members. Registration is simple, fast and free! Click here to register today.
Tags !MOD BOX WARNING! , donald trump , Kim Jong-un , US-North Korea relations

Reply
Old 25th April 2018, 12:43 PM   #441
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Logger, explain to me why Trump's base gives him a pass on calling Kim "honorable".
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 12:57 PM   #442
aleCcowaN
imperfecto del subjuntivo
 
aleCcowaN's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: stranded at Buenos Aires, a city that, like NYC or Paris, has so little to offer...
Posts: 9,460
Originally Posted by logger
You were ranting over Trumps inevitable failure in being able to do anything with North Korea.
Bzzzz! Wrong!

I was asserting Trump doesn't want to do anything with Korea. I was asserting Trump plan is having a policy of continuous confrontation and twitting about it. Voluntarily planned. Desired by him. This way by design.

It seems you have a hard time understanding what is said to you.
__________________
Horrible dipsomaniacs and other addicts, be gone and get treated, or covfefe your soul!These fora are full of scientists and specialists. Most of them turn back to pumpkins the second they log out.
I got tired of the actual schizophrenics that are taking hold part of the forum and decided to do something about it.
aleCcowaN is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 01:51 PM   #443
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by aleCcowaN View Post
Bzzzz! Wrong!

I was asserting Trump doesn't want to do anything with Korea. I was asserting Trump plan is having a policy of continuous confrontation and twitting about it. Voluntarily planned. Desired by him. This way by design.
Which is why I responded the way I did, nothing has changed.
Quote:
It seems you have a hard time understanding what is said to you.
Not at all, but I am used to the personal attacks. Itís petty and quite unhelpful.
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 01:52 PM   #444
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
Logger, explain to me why Trump's base gives him a pass on calling Kim "honorable".
I suspect he has been taken out of context.

Do you have a link for the context?
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 01:55 PM   #445
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
I hope he succeeds, although the credit should probably go to Pompeo and Mattis. But I doubt very much Trump will get any further than anyone else has. He's not a very good negotiator, in case you haven't noticed.
I canít believe you hand wave things away so easy. There are many things under negotiation right now, things that we wouldnít even be discussing if we had a democrat lead from behind President.

Letís give him a chance to get something done.
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 02:38 PM   #446
Delvo
Дэлво Δελϝο דֶלְבֹֿ देल्वो
 
Delvo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: North Tonawanda, NY
Posts: 8,629
That cave-in (which means destroyed/buried equipment & records and dead scientists, even if there is another site that could be used) puts an interesting twist on this. If they concluded for themselves that they can't continue development anymore, then they'd need a way to make it look as if they'd voluntarily decided to end it...
Delvo is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 02:44 PM   #447
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by logger View Post
I suspect he has been taken out of context.

Do you have a link for the context?
Can you give me any context where you would have accepted Obama calling him honorable?

"We have been told directly that they would like to have the meeting as soon as possible. We think that's a great thing for the world," Trump said at the White House alongside French President Emmanuel Macron. "Kim Jong Un, he really has been very open and I think very honorable from everything we're seeing."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/24...honorable.html
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 03:22 PM   #448
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
Can you give me any context where you would have accepted Obama calling him honorable?

"We have been told directly that they would like to have the meeting as soon as possible. We think that's a great thing for the world," Trump said at the White House alongside French President Emmanuel Macron. "Kim Jong Un, he really has been very open and I think very honorable from everything we're seeing."
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/24...honorable.html
As I suspected!

And you cant figure out Trump was talking about Kim’s actions in these negotiations so far? It’s more proof your side is not interested in getting this solved because of who occupies the White House.
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 03:26 PM   #449
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by logger View Post
As I suspected!

And you cant figure out Trump was talking about Kimís actions in these negotiations so far? Itís more proof your side is not interested in getting this solved because of who occupies the White House.


"Kim Jong Un, he really has been very open and I think very honorable."

Pretty clear Trump is talking about Kim Jong, Logger. He has a tendency to praise certain bad guys, or haven't you noticed?

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) is raising concerns about President Trump's decision to describe North Korea's leader as "very honorable," saying the comment "surpasses understanding."
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 03:52 PM   #450
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post


"Kim Jong Un, he really has been very open and I think very honorable."

Pretty clear Trump is talking about Kim Jong, Logger. He has a tendency to praise certain bad guys, or haven't you noticed?

Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) is raising concerns about President Trump's decision to describe North Korea's leader as "very honorable," saying the comment "surpasses understanding."
Again, obviously he is discussing Kimís actions with respect to these negotiations. Your side is clearly trying to stop this from moving forward. That is incredible!!!
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 04:00 PM   #451
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by logger View Post
Again, obviously he is discussing Kimís actions with respect to these negotiations. Your side is clearly trying to stop this from moving forward. That is incredible!!!
Right, Jeff flake, staunch liberal.
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 05:03 PM   #452
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
Right, Jeff flake, staunch liberal.
Did you think thatís what I meant? You cant figure out where Jeff Flake is in relation to his deep dislike of Trump? And letís not forget he is a liberal republican.
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 05:30 PM   #453
phiwum
Penultimate Amazing
 
phiwum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 12,491
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
Right, Jeff flake, staunch liberal.
Logger is right that Trump's comment is directed to Kim's participation in talks and not more broadly.

That said, to refer to Kim as honorable is worthy of criticism. Good for Flake.
phiwum is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 05:52 PM   #454
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
Logger is right that Trump's comment is directed to Kim's participation in talks and not more broadly.

That said, to refer to Kim as honorable is worthy of criticism. Good for Flake.
He never referred to Kim as honorable, it was as you said, directed at his participation. A better word though is his actions.
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 06:52 PM   #455
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
Logger is right that Trump's comment is directed to Kim's participation in talks and not more broadly.

That said, to refer to Kim as honorable is worthy of criticism. Good for Flake.
That makes no sense. "Honorable" is an adjective that can only apply to a person.
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 06:54 PM   #456
phiwum
Penultimate Amazing
 
phiwum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 12,491
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
That makes no sense. "Honorable" is an adjective that can only apply to a person.
One can be honorable in certain interactions and not others. Just as one can be kind in certain interactions and cruel in others.
phiwum is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 06:58 PM   #457
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
One can be honorable in certain interactions and not others. Just as one can be kind in certain interactions and cruel in others.
My point was that Trump was referring to Kim the person as honorable. It doesn't matter if it's in a narrow or broad sense, since Kim hasn't earned the honorific at all. Had Obama done that, the calls for impeachment would have begun at once.
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 06:59 PM   #458
phiwum
Penultimate Amazing
 
phiwum's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 12,491
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
My point was that Trump was referring to Kim the person as honorable. It doesn't matter if it's in a narrow or broad sense, since Kim hasn't earned the honorific at all. Had Obama done that, the calls for impeachment would have begun at once.
I won't deny the hypocrisy that you mention.
phiwum is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 07:01 PM   #459
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by phiwum View Post
I won't deny the hypocrisy that you mention.
Logger said

Quote:
He never referred to Kim as honorable, it was as you said, directed at his participation.
That is wrong. "Participation" cannot be honorable. Only the participant can be.
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 07:02 PM   #460
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
My point was that Trump was referring to Kim the person as honorable. It doesn't matter if it's in a narrow or broad sense, since Kim hasn't earned the honorific at all. Had Obama done that, the calls for impeachment would have begun at once.
And youíre obviously wrong. Trump wants this to take place, he obviously would love for things to go his way and get NK on its way back in to the family of nations. Complementing the dictator on continuing to move forward with this helps move it forward. Why do I have to explain this!!!
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 07:04 PM   #461
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by logger View Post
And you’re obviously wrong. Trump wants this to take place, he obviously would love for things to go his way and get NK on its way back in to the family of nations. Complementing the dictator on continuing to move forward with this helps move it forward. Why do I have to explain this!!!
That is at odds with this:

Quote:
He never referred to Kim as honorable, it was as you said, directed at his participation.
He did refer to Kim as honorable. As you said, Trump is "complementing the dictator". I.e, he called him "honorable". Had Obama done that, heads would have exploded.
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 07:05 PM   #462
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
Logger said



That is wrong. "Participation" cannot be honorable. Only the participant can be.
Actions can be honorable just the same as people.
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 07:07 PM   #463
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by logger View Post
Actions can be honorable just the same as people.
Logger, you just said Trump was complementing the dictator. He obviously was.
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 07:09 PM   #464
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
That is at odds with this:



He did refer to Kim as honorable. As you said, Trump is "complementing the dictator". I.e, he called him "honorable". Had Obama done that, heads would have exploded.
Complimenting the dictator, ON HIS ACTIONS.

This is getting ridiculous.

How about this. Trump was saying Kim is honorable in all the things he does. Trump essentially likes Kim, he thinks fat people with stupid haircuts are cool, just as you have thought and posted. I hope youíre happy now, youíve found him out.
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 07:23 PM   #465
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by logger View Post
Complimenting the dictator, ON HIS ACTIONS.

This is getting ridiculous.

How about this. Trump was saying Kim is honorable in all the things he does. Trump essentially likes Kim, he thinks fat people with stupid haircuts are cool, just as you have thought and posted. I hope youíre happy now, youíve found him out.
I agree. Maybe this statement of yours is the problem?

"He never referred to Kim as honorable."

Do you care to explain what you meant by that?
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 07:26 PM   #466
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
I agree. Maybe this statement of yours is the problem?

"He never referred to Kim as honorable."

Do you care to explain what you meant by that?
Iíve said it over and over. Kimís actions, not the man.
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 07:30 PM   #467
Regnad Kcin
Philosopher
 
Regnad Kcin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 9,864
Originally Posted by logger View Post
Iíve said it over and over. Kimís actions, not the man.
Who took the action(s)?
__________________
My heros are Alex Zanardi and Evelyn Glennie.
Regnad Kcin is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 07:48 PM   #468
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin View Post
Who took the action(s)?
Thank you!

God, what a stupid attempt at defending Trump.
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 07:58 PM   #469
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
Thank you!

God, what a stupid attempt at defending Trump.
I donít have to defend him, just about anyone understands what he was doing.

Let me ask you, what EXACTLY do you think Trump meant by saying that?
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 08:21 PM   #470
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by logger View Post
I donít have to defend him, just about anyone understands what he was doing.

Let me ask you, what EXACTLY do you think Trump meant by saying that?
The same thing he meant when he said this:

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
"@Apipwhisperer: @MarkPavelich @gentlemanirish @60Minutes EXCELLENT WATCHING PUTIN'S BRILLIANCE AND TRUMP'S. @CBS I LOVED THE INTERVIEWS."

7:30 PM - Sep 27, 2015
1,454
1,071 people are talking about this


And this

"At a very young age, he was able to assume power. A lot of people, I'm sure, tried to take that power away, whether it was his uncle or anybody else. And he was able to do it. So obviously, he's a pretty smart cookie."

And other glowing things about horrible people. Trump has a hard-on for dictators. How do you not know this???
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 08:33 PM   #471
Regnad Kcin
Philosopher
 
Regnad Kcin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 9,864
Originally Posted by logger View Post
I donít have to defend him, just about anyone understands what he was doing.

Let me ask you, what EXACTLY do you think Trump meant by saying that?
Who took the action(s)?
__________________
My heros are Alex Zanardi and Evelyn Glennie.
Regnad Kcin is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 08:34 PM   #472
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Regnad Kcin View Post
Who took the action(s)?
Actions canít be honorable?
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 08:35 PM   #473
logger
Banned
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 11,145
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
The same thing he meant when he said this:

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
"@Apipwhisperer: @MarkPavelich @gentlemanirish @60Minutes EXCELLENT WATCHING PUTIN'S BRILLIANCE AND TRUMP'S. @CBS I LOVED THE INTERVIEWS."

7:30 PM - Sep 27, 2015
1,454
1,071 people are talking about this


And this

"At a very young age, he was able to assume power. A lot of people, I'm sure, tried to take that power away, whether it was his uncle or anybody else. And he was able to do it. So obviously, he's a pretty smart cookie."

And other glowing things about horrible people. Trump has a hard-on for dictators. How do you not know this???
Your correct, but so donít most leftists.
logger is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 08:45 PM   #474
Fudbucker
Philosopher
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 8,537
Originally Posted by logger View Post
Your correct, but so donít most leftists.
Most? No. The only thing that comes to mind is Obama said some things about Castro after he died that could be interpreted in a positive way. Trump, in just two years, has praised Putin, Xi, Duerte, and Kim, and not in one-off instances like funerals. He just blurts this **** out, usually after the dictator in question has said something nice about Trump.
Fudbucker is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 08:50 PM   #475
Regnad Kcin
Philosopher
 
Regnad Kcin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: New York
Posts: 9,864
Originally Posted by logger View Post
Actions canít be honorable?
An action (in this usage of the word) is a gesture, an expression of the person offering it. An action cannot be apart from, independent of, the actor.
__________________
My heros are Alex Zanardi and Evelyn Glennie.
Regnad Kcin is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 25th April 2018, 09:03 PM   #476
Steve
Philosopher
 
Steve's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Sydney Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,129
Originally Posted by logger View Post
Actions canít be honorable?
I cannot recall ever before seeing an action referred to as "he". Trump used the word "he". Would you care to keep digging?
__________________
Caption from and old New Yorker cartoon - Why am I shouting? Because I'm wrong!"
Steve is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th April 2018, 01:31 AM   #477
Captain_Swoop
Penultimate Amazing
 
Captain_Swoop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 26,263
Originally Posted by logger View Post
Actions canít be honorable?
Not in and of themselves as an action isn't anything that can decide or have morals.
It is the person performing the action that would hsbe honour.

I do think Trump meant the action of coming to the table, I don't see what the fuss is about.

Personally I don't think Kim has any honour. He is playing a game with Trump.
Captain_Swoop is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th April 2018, 02:44 AM   #478
Arcade22
Philosopher
 
Arcade22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sweden
Posts: 6,532
Trump praising the North Korean dictator as "very honourable" is sickening but, considering that Trump defended Putin "the killer" by saying that America also has plenty of killers, I would not say that it's very unprecedented.

Trump really has no regard for maintaining America's prestige and international standing by trying to humour the leader of what can legitimately be called the world's worst country.
__________________
We would be a lot safer if the Government would take its money out of science and put it into astrology and the reading of palms. Only in superstition is there hope. - Kurt Vonnegut Jr

And no, Cuba is not a brutal and corrupt dictatorship, and it's definitely less so than Sweden. - dann
Arcade22 is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th April 2018, 04:14 AM   #479
ponderingturtle
Orthogonal Vector
 
ponderingturtle's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 49,053
Originally Posted by Fudbucker View Post
Logger, you just said Trump was complementing the dictator. He obviously was.
To be fair giving loving praise to dictators was always his thing before the election who expected that to change? This is hardly his first glowing praise of Kim.
__________________
Sufficiently advanced Woo is indistinguishable from Parody
"There shall be no *poofing* in science" Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
Force ***** on reasons back" Ben Franklin
ponderingturtle is offline   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Old 26th April 2018, 06:23 AM   #480
Minoosh
Penultimate Amazing
 
Minoosh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 11,003
Trump is sick with jealousy that he cannot simply execute people who get in his way. He pines to be Putin who could probably kill Trump barehanded in 30 seconds. So maybe as per another thread he is truly suffering from a personality disorder. Not just that he has one, but that he suffers from it.

The leader of the free world. Hah. America would not be free if Trump had his druthers.
Minoosh is online now   Quote this post in a PM   Nominate this post for this month's language award Copy a direct link to this post Reply With Quote Back to Top
Reply

International Skeptics Forum » General Topics » USA Politics

Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:03 PM.
Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

This forum began as part of the James Randi Education Foundation (JREF). However, the forum now exists as
an independent entity with no affiliation with or endorsement by the JREF, including the section in reference to "JREF" topics.

Disclaimer: Messages posted in the Forum are solely the opinion of their authors.