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Old 4th April 2020, 04:35 PM   #121
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
Lots of ships being loaded here in Canberra.

But I was referring to driving a train into a ship, which as I acknowledged a lot of posts ago wasn't what was happening anyway.
OK I'll bite... Erm... Wut?
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Old 4th April 2020, 04:38 PM   #122
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Keanu seems to be doing just fine without the franchise.
I dunno. He's seemed a little grumpy in the last three movies I've watched him in...
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Old 4th April 2020, 05:01 PM   #123
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
Thrilling for me to read as an adult.
Agreed!
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Old 4th April 2020, 05:35 PM   #124
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or, using the more usual understanding of swain, just a very ardent trainspotter?
That's actually the etymology of the word. The boat swain was (and is) the person whose main responsibility is knowledge of and care for the boat itself. I'm thinking it must have started as poking fun at the boat maintenance guy, and evolved into an honorable name for an honorable profession.

"Guy who operates the train" can totally be a train swain in my book.
"Swain" meaning a rustic lover or wooer isn't attested until the 16th century (e.g. Who is Sylvia? What is she? That all our swains commend her). Borrowed from Old Norse sveinn, swain originally meant boy, servant, or laborer. Boatswain appears in late Old English and probably just meant "sailor" or "boatman."
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Old 4th April 2020, 06:03 PM   #125
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This isn't bad for a train crash.


https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ustralia-video


One man crew on a massive iron ore train had to stop and inspect an issue with one of the wagons. The train took off without him. Now, if they had done a proper risk analysis, maybe it would be cheaper in the long run to have a two man crew.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...to-wrong-train


This how it happened.


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The report revealed a rail maintenance crew was called to help the driver apply the handbrakes, working from the back of the 2km long train, but they mistakenly applied them to a stationary, empty ore train, which was parked adjacent to the fully laden train.

The braking system that initially stopped the fully-laden train automatically released after an hour, while the driver was still outside.
At about 4.40am, the driver heard air venting from the ore car brakes, and shortly after noticed the train was moving.
The driver tried to radio call the maintenance crew to tell them the brakes had “bled off” but there was no response, the report said.
About 20 minutes later, the driver of the empty ore train contacted controllers advising that the maintenance crew had mistakenly applied handbrakes to his train.
The driver, Peter Frick, was sacked but has since reached a settlement with the company after taking his case to the Fair Work Commission.

An internal investigation by BHP found the incident was the result of “procedural non-compliance by the operator” and “integration issues with the electronically controlled pneumatic braking system”.
“Even if the track support team had have attended the correct train and applied manual brakes, it would not have been enough to stop the roll-away event,” a BHP spokeswoman said in a statement.
BHP’s WA iron ore asset president, Edgar Basto, said the driver had not applied the automatic brake handle to the emergency position before leaving the cab, as required in the operating procedure and in accordance with training provided.
“If the automatic brake handle was in the emergency position as per the operating procedure, the train would not have rolled away,” he said.
Basto said the company had since brought in changes to its procedures to ensure the incident wasn’t repeated.
The report said the runaway train reached a speed of 162km per hour before slowing down to about 128km. It made seven technical recommendations, including amending operating instructions for brake pipe emergencies.
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Old 4th April 2020, 06:22 PM   #126
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Originally Posted by Lucian View Post
"Swain" meaning a rustic lover or wooer
She is as hot as can be and has moss and ivy growing all over her body.
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Old 5th April 2020, 06:19 AM   #127
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
This isn't bad for a train crash.


https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ustralia-video


One man crew on a massive iron ore train had to stop and inspect an issue with one of the wagons. The train took off without him. Now, if they had done a proper risk analysis, maybe it would be cheaper in the long run to have a two man crew.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...to-wrong-train


This how it happened.
I vaguely recall a movie like this, in which a runaway train needs to be stopped before it smashes into another train full of kids. It was a pretty cheesy movie, but maybe it wasn't so far fetched!
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Old 5th April 2020, 09:04 AM   #128
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Originally Posted by bruto View Post
I vaguely recall a movie like this, in which a runaway train needs to be stopped before it smashes into another train full of kids. It was a pretty cheesy movie, but maybe it wasn't so far fetched!
But could they throw a switch and save the kids from possible death, but certainly kill someone else?
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Old 5th April 2020, 09:16 AM   #129
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But could they throw a switch and save the kids from possible death, but certainly kill someone else?

They could, but the Law of Impossibility of Moral Ambiguity requires there to always be a superior alternative that saves everyone.
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Old 5th April 2020, 02:42 PM   #130
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But could they throw a switch and save the kids from possible death, but certainly kill someone else?
Yeah, and that "someone else" has just invented the Universal Cancer Cure, but hasn't told anyone about it yet...
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Originally Posted by novaphile View Post
OK I'll bite... Erm... Wut?
I was being sarcastic
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
This isn't bad for a train crash.


https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ustralia-video


One man crew on a massive iron ore train had to stop and inspect an issue with one of the wagons. The train took off without him. Now, if they had done a proper risk analysis, maybe it would be cheaper in the long run to have a two man crew.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...to-wrong-train


This how it happened.
Or maybe it would have been cheaper to have a one man crew.

Who says they didn't do a proper risk analysis?
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I do. The dollars saved with a one man crew will never cover for this.
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Old 6th April 2020, 10:40 AM   #134
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Originally Posted by a_unique_person View Post
This isn't bad for a train crash.


https://www.theguardian.com/australi...ustralia-video


One man crew on a massive iron ore train had to stop and inspect an issue with one of the wagons. The train took off without him. Now, if they had done a proper risk analysis, maybe it would be cheaper in the long run to have a two man crew.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...to-wrong-train


This how it happened.
Utterly OT, but any mention of BHP always reminds me of this song.
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30,000 pounds of bananas.
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Still not getting it. Train tracks don't end at ships.

Of course, they do! Some of them even end in ships!
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30,000 pounds of bananas.
Should have took a Taxi.
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30,000 pounds of bananas.
30,000 Pounds of Bananas
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post

Yup.

There were so many different versions on YouTube of Chapin doing that routine that I just gave up trying to choose and figured I'd leave it up to the reader.

The original studio recording isn't necessarily the best. If you can find one of the live ones where he adds the Donnie and Marie bit into the monologue please post a link. I kept reading about it but I never found one.

And, for the appropriate finish ...

"Harry, it sucks!".
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In the early 1970's I was part of the "Mormon tubercular choir" and heard him perform it live. Shame about his early death.
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Glad you survived.
What do Mormons with TB sound like? Should they really be singing?
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Glad you survived.
What do Mormons with TB sound like?

Apparently they sound like the audience of a Harry Chapin concert, doing a variation of call and response.

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Should they really be singing?

There is some disagreement on that point, but it seems mostly to be a sort of "You had to be there." kind of thing.
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The engineer is the person who operates the engine.

Funny how it works like that.
Engineer and ...

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