Who's embarrassed by Joe Biden?

sunmaster14 · 23rd February 2015, 09:36 AM

I am, even though I have never supported him to be anything other than a side kick for a late night talk show host. Would the media handle things differently if he were a Republican? I think so.

Quote:

It was just another Tuesday for the vice president of the United States, and another week in which the mainstream media turned their genteel eyes away from the highly questionable conduct of the figure of low comedy whom tragedy might make our president.

On Tuesday morning, Joe Biden was photographed placing his hands in a cringe-inducingly inappropriate manner on the shoulders of a much younger woman — the wife of the about-to-be-sworn-in secretary of defense — and keeping them there . . . and keeping them there . . . and keeping them there . . . for 28 full seconds.

Yuk.

Ziggurat · 23rd February 2015, 09:43 AM

It's going to be so much fun watching him run for President again.

http://www.dorkly.com/post/72803/is-...l-constituents

Jrrarglblarg · 23rd February 2015, 09:50 AM

Darth Cheney never had this problem because cameras were not allowed in the Undisclosed Location Lair.

maxpower1227 · 23rd February 2015, 10:06 AM

Yeah, Biden is not exactly the most embarrassing VP we've had. He may be deserving of some ridicule now and then, but he isn't a monster like his predecessor.

NotJesus · 23rd February 2015, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by sunmaster14

I am, even though I have never supported him to be anything other than a side kick for a late night talk show host. Would the media handle things differently if he were a Republican? I think so.

Yuk.

There, there. [Places arm around sunmaster14's shoulders in a totally non-creepy way.]

Bogative · 23rd February 2015, 10:12 AM

I am. Not only is he a drooling idiot, the creep factor on that guy is through the roof. I can't think of a single politician that I find as repulsive as he is.

Quote:

There is no circumstance under which a man has a right to touch a woman without her consent other than self-defense.

Quote:

No man has a right to touch a woman without her consent, and that's what we've got to get across.

Maybe Joe should take his own advice.

Cleon · 23rd February 2015, 10:12 AM

I love it when the media complains about the media.

sackett · 23rd February 2015, 10:14 AM

What?!? Joe put his hands on a good-looking woman? Ew! Disgusto!

I would never do such a thing. Would you? Well of course not.

DavidJames · 23rd February 2015, 10:25 AM

It's great to see what Conservatives get offended by. Government forcing Christianity? Denying evolution? Denying AGW? Accusing the president of not loving his country?

Nah, that's nothing. What's really important is Biden's hands.

Ziggurat · 23rd February 2015, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by DavidJames

Accusing the president of not loving his country?

You seem upset. Do you need a fainting couch? I wouldn't want you to get hurt when you swoon.

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Nah, that's nothing. What's really important is Biden's hands.

These are the rules that liberals (including Biden himself) set up. If they have a hard time playing by them, oh well.

sunmaster14 · 23rd February 2015, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by DavidJames

It's great to see what Conservatives get offended by. Government forcing Christianity? Denying evolution? Denying AGW? Accusing the president of not loving his country?

Nah, that's nothing. What's really important is Biden's hands.

I have no idea what the first thing is about, nor why I should be offended by the other things, but I will say this. Biden seems to have a lot more love for the Defense Secretary's wife than Obama does for the country. I'm not asking Obama to give the country a neck and shoulder massage or anything, while sticking his nose deep in our hair, but an acknowledgement that we look nice once in a while wouldn't hurt.

seayakin · 23rd February 2015, 10:55 AM

As someone who generally votes on the liberal side, I find Joe Biden's actions creepy and he should know better given his history. I will not try to defend his actions.

maxpower1227 · 23rd February 2015, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by sunmaster14

I have no idea what the first thing is about, nor why I should be offended by the other things, but I will say this. Biden seems to have a lot more love for the Defense Secretary's wife than Obama does for the country. I'm not asking Obama to give the country a neck and shoulder massage or anything, while sticking his nose deep in our hair, but an acknowledgement that we look nice once in a while wouldn't hurt.

Just how much does Obama love this country anyway? I know it's not as much as you love it, but is it more or less than 3/5 as much as you love it?

Spindrift · 23rd February 2015, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by sunmaster14

I have no idea what the first thing is about, nor why I should be offended by the other things, but I will say this. Biden seems to have a lot more love for the Defense Secretary's wife than Obama does for the country. I'm not asking Obama to give the country a neck and shoulder massage or anything, while sticking his nose deep in our hair, but an acknowledgement that we look nice once in a while wouldn't hurt.

You have never heard or read Obama acknowledging his love of country? Have you tried looking?

kookbreaker · 23rd February 2015, 11:03 AM

Why can't he shoot someone in the face like a real VP?

The_Animus · 23rd February 2015, 11:49 AM

This was inappropriate. It also has next to nothing to do with democrats or politics beyond that whole appearance of character for an office holder thing.

Upchurch · 23rd February 2015, 11:51 AM

It was creepy when Bush did it, its creepy when Biden does it.

eta: All things considered, I'm not a tenth as embarrassed of Biden as I am/was of Bush.

Ziggurat · 23rd February 2015, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by kookbreaker

Why can't he shoot ~~someone~~ a lawyer in the face like a real VP?

FTFY.

Jrrarglblarg · 23rd February 2015, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Upchurch

It was creepy when Bush did it, its creepy when Biden does it.

eta: All things considered, I'm not a tenth as embarrassed of Biden as I am/was of Bush.

Just don't apogize for him to foreigners or your country music career will be over.

WildCat · 23rd February 2015, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by sackett

What?!? Joe put his hands on a good-looking woman? Ew! Disgusto!

I would never do such a thing. Would you? Well of course not.

Try doing that to a coworker's wife some day and let us know if you still have your job the next day.

Jrrarglblarg · 23rd February 2015, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Bogative

I am. Not only is he a drooling idiot, the creep factor on that guy is through the roof. I can't think of a single politician that I find as repulsive as he is.

Seriously? You find this more repulsive than the (R) with the "wide stance" or the (D) who tweeted pix of his rooster to young not-his-wife, or the (R) who sent sexually explicit emails to young men?

Peruse at your leisure and increase your data set:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_..._United_States

IXP · 23rd February 2015, 12:51 PM

Saturday night I put on arm on the back and held the other hand of various women that I did not know at all, holding them close for several minutes, and telling them, with physical contact what to do.

Ballroom dancing is great! Except for the one who kept stepping on my Capezios.

IXP

Drewbot · 23rd February 2015, 01:14 PM

This incident is way creepier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4OYPiV1GsY

maxpower1227 · 23rd February 2015, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Drewbot

This incident is way creepier:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4OYPiV1GsY

Good grief. Old men are the worst. I hope I never become one.

ehcks · 23rd February 2015, 01:18 PM

Socially awkward and outright silly.

But able to soundly beat every Republican he's debated against.

So for all his embarrassing actions, I still want more than anything for Hillary Clinton to pick him as her VP.

Crossbow · 23rd February 2015, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by sunmaster14

I am, even though I have never supported him to be anything other than a side kick for a late night talk show host. Would the media handle things differently if he were a Republican? I think so.

Yuk.

You poor man!

I am sure that fromer VPs like Dick Cheney, Dan Qualye, George. H. W. Bush or the late Spiro Agnew will be able to give you so much comfort.

Brainster · 23rd February 2015, 01:24 PM

It has always amused me that the same people who got the vapors at the notion of Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from the presidency seem to think Joe Biden is well-qualified.

ehcks · 23rd February 2015, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

It has always amused me that the same people who got the vapors at the notion of Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from the presidency seem to think Joe Biden is well-qualified.

You know Palin and Biden had a debate, right?

And how that went?

Upchurch · 23rd February 2015, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by ehcks

You know Palin and Biden had a debate, right?

And how that went?

My memory might be a little fuzy, but I'm pretty sure Biden rubbed her shoulders while Palin read all the newspapers.

Crossbow · 23rd February 2015, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Brainster

It has always amused me that the same people who got the vapors at the notion of Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from the presidency seem to think Joe Biden is well-qualified.

Well, ...

Palin should be pleased to hear that there is one person in the world who thinks that she would be a better president than Biden.

cullennz · 23rd February 2015, 01:47 PM

I've always wondered what the Vice President actually does.

I remember watching "Air Force One" and Glenn Close just cried a lot

BazBear · 23rd February 2015, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by maxpower1227

Yeah, Biden is not exactly the most embarrassing VP we've had. He may be deserving of some ridicule now and then, but he isn't a monster like his predecessor.

I agree; and I'll bet he can even spell potatoe, errr, potato, unlike a certain former VPOTUS.

For all Biden's faults and gaffs, I am glad he's VP, instead of the former lady governor of Alaska (even if she is cuter

)

LorenzoValla · 23rd February 2015, 03:17 PM

Cheney was condemned by the press so he's known as a villain. Biden is treated like someone's loopy uncle by the press, so no one cares.

DavidJames · 23rd February 2015, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by LorenzoValla

Cheney was condemned by the press so he's known as a villain. Biden is treated like someone's loopy uncle by the press, so no one cares.

Yup, perfect example of equivalence. One was vilified for WMD's, they'll welcome us like hero's, basically stuff that resulted in deaths. Biden? Yeah, same thing

Upchurch · 23rd February 2015, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by DavidJames

Yup, perfect example of equivalence. One was vilified for WMD's, they'll welcome us like hero's, basically stuff that resulted in deaths. Biden? Yeah, same thing

Don't forget championing torture, ten and now, because I know I haven't.

But yes, totally the same thing as being handsy to the point of creepy. Also, the only reason Cheney is vilified is because of his bad press, not because of cartoon villainous actions.

ehcks · 23rd February 2015, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by DavidJames

Yup, perfect example of equivalence. One was vilified for WMD's, they'll welcome us like hero's, basically stuff that resulted in deaths. Biden? Yeah, same thing

Yeah, what has Biden actually done wrong besides not keep his hands to himself?

I mean, he should work on that, but what wars of choice did he get us involved in so his mercenary corporation could get work and send him money for it?

Tony Stark · 23rd February 2015, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by LorenzoValla

Cheney was condemned by the press so he's known as a villain. Biden is treated like someone's loopy uncle by the press, so no one cares.

Cheney is actually a villain - he's a war criminal and probably a psychopath.

The Big Dog · 23rd February 2015, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by ehcks

Yeah, what has Biden actually done wrong besides not keep his hands to himself?

I mean, he should work on that, but what wars of choice did he get us involved in so his mercenary corporation could get work and send him money for it?

Afghanistan and Iraq II.

eta: Kosovo and Libya

Manopolus · 23rd February 2015, 03:40 PM

The thing is, the media used to filter this crap out.

Surprise!

Our elected officials are indeed human and may have some of those disgustingly human motivations at times. Did anyone think otherwise?

Upchurch · 23rd February 2015, 03:40 PM

Originally Posted by 16.5

Afghanistan and Iraq II.

eta: Kosovo and Libya

Joe Biden got into those wars for his mercenary corporation? What mercenary corporation does Joe Biden?

23rd February 2015, 09:36 AM	#1
sunmaster14 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 10,017	Who's embarrassed by Joe Biden? I am, even though I have never supported him to be anything other than a side kick for a late night talk show host. Would the media handle things differently if he were a Republican? I think so. Quote: It was just another Tuesday for the vice president of the United States, and another week in which the mainstream media turned their genteel eyes away from the highly questionable conduct of the figure of low comedy whom tragedy might make our president. On Tuesday morning, Joe Biden was photographed placing his hands in a cringe-inducingly inappropriate manner on the shoulders of a much younger woman — the wife of the about-to-be-sworn-in secretary of defense — and keeping them there . . . and keeping them there . . . and keeping them there . . . for 28 full seconds. Yuk.

23rd February 2015, 09:43 AM	#2
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23rd February 2015, 09:50 AM	#3
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23rd February 2015, 10:06 AM	#4
maxpower1227 Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,998	Yeah, Biden is not exactly the most embarrassing VP we've had. He may be deserving of some ridicule now and then, but he isn't a monster like his predecessor.
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23rd February 2015, 10:12 AM	#7
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23rd February 2015, 10:07 AM	#5
NotJesus Unsaviory Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,629	Originally Posted by sunmaster14 I am, even though I have never supported him to be anything other than a side kick for a late night talk show host. Would the media handle things differently if he were a Republican? I think so. Yuk. There, there. [Places arm around sunmaster14's shoulders in a totally non-creepy way.]

23rd February 2015, 10:12 AM	#6
Bogative Graduate Poster Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,685	I am. Not only is he a drooling idiot, the creep factor on that guy is through the roof. I can't think of a single politician that I find as repulsive as he is. Quote: There is no circumstance under which a man has a right to touch a woman without her consent other than self-defense. Quote: No man has a right to touch a woman without her consent, and that's what we've got to get across. Maybe Joe should take his own advice.

23rd February 2015, 10:14 AM	#8
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23rd February 2015, 10:25 AM	#9
DavidJames Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 10,493	It's great to see what Conservatives get offended by. Government forcing Christianity? Denying evolution? Denying AGW? Accusing the president of not loving his country? Nah, that's nothing. What's really important is Biden's hands.
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23rd February 2015, 10:31 AM	#10
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 48,634	Originally Posted by DavidJames Accusing the president of not loving his country? You seem upset. Do you need a fainting couch? I wouldn't want you to get hurt when you swoon. Quote: Nah, that's nothing. What's really important is Biden's hands. These are the rules that liberals (including Biden himself) set up. If they have a hard time playing by them, oh well.
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23rd February 2015, 10:52 AM	#11
sunmaster14 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 10,017	Originally Posted by DavidJames It's great to see what Conservatives get offended by. Government forcing Christianity? Denying evolution? Denying AGW? Accusing the president of not loving his country? Nah, that's nothing. What's really important is Biden's hands. I have no idea what the first thing is about, nor why I should be offended by the other things, but I will say this. Biden seems to have a lot more love for the Defense Secretary's wife than Obama does for the country. I'm not asking Obama to give the country a neck and shoulder massage or anything, while sticking his nose deep in our hair, but an acknowledgement that we look nice once in a while wouldn't hurt.

23rd February 2015, 10:55 AM	#12
seayakin Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,324	As someone who generally votes on the liberal side, I find Joe Biden's actions creepy and he should know better given his history. I will not try to defend his actions.
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23rd February 2015, 10:58 AM	#13
maxpower1227 Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,998	Originally Posted by sunmaster14 I have no idea what the first thing is about, nor why I should be offended by the other things, but I will say this. Biden seems to have a lot more love for the Defense Secretary's wife than Obama does for the country. I'm not asking Obama to give the country a neck and shoulder massage or anything, while sticking his nose deep in our hair, but an acknowledgement that we look nice once in a while wouldn't hurt. Just how much does Obama love this country anyway? I know it's not as much as you love it, but is it more or less than 3/5 as much as you love it?
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23rd February 2015, 10:58 AM	#14
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23rd February 2015, 11:03 AM	#15
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23rd February 2015, 11:49 AM	#16
The_Animus Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 3,258	This was inappropriate. It also has next to nothing to do with democrats or politics beyond that whole appearance of character for an office holder thing.
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23rd February 2015, 11:51 AM	#17
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 32,468	It was creepy when Bush did it, its creepy when Biden does it. eta: All things considered, I'm not a tenth as embarrassed of Biden as I am/was of Bush.
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23rd February 2015, 12:14 PM	#18
Ziggurat Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 48,634	Originally Posted by kookbreaker Why can't he shoot ~~someone~~ a lawyer in the face like a real VP? FTFY.
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23rd February 2015, 12:19 PM	#19
Jrrarglblarg Guest Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 12,673	Originally Posted by Upchurch It was creepy when Bush did it, its creepy when Biden does it. eta: All things considered, I'm not a tenth as embarrassed of Biden as I am/was of Bush. Just don't apogize for him to foreigners or your country music career will be over.
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23rd February 2015, 12:22 PM	#20
WildCat NWO Master Conspirator Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 59,856	Originally Posted by sackett What?!? Joe put his hands on a good-looking woman? Ew! Disgusto! I would never do such a thing. Would you? Well of course not. Try doing that to a coworker's wife some day and let us know if you still have your job the next day.
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23rd February 2015, 12:37 PM	#21
Jrrarglblarg Guest Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 12,673	Originally Posted by Bogative I am. Not only is he a drooling idiot, the creep factor on that guy is through the roof. I can't think of a single politician that I find as repulsive as he is. Seriously? You find this more repulsive than the (R) with the "wide stance" or the (D) who tweeted pix of his rooster to young not-his-wife, or the (R) who sent sexually explicit emails to young men? Peruse at your leisure and increase your data set: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_..._United_States
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23rd February 2015, 12:51 PM	#22
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23rd February 2015, 01:14 PM	#23
Drewbot Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 7,357	This incident is way creepier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4OYPiV1GsY
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23rd February 2015, 01:15 PM	#24
maxpower1227 Master Poster Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,998	Originally Posted by Drewbot This incident is way creepier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4OYPiV1GsY Good grief. Old men are the worst. I hope I never become one.
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23rd February 2015, 01:18 PM	#25
ehcks Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302	Socially awkward and outright silly. But able to soundly beat every Republican he's debated against. So for all his embarrassing actions, I still want more than anything for Hillary Clinton to pick him as her VP.
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23rd February 2015, 01:23 PM	#26
Crossbow Seeking Honesty and Sanity Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Charleston, WV Posts: 13,414	Originally Posted by sunmaster14 I am, even though I have never supported him to be anything other than a side kick for a late night talk show host. Would the media handle things differently if he were a Republican? I think so. Yuk. You poor man! I am sure that fromer VPs like Dick Cheney, Dan Qualye, George. H. W. Bush or the late Spiro Agnew will be able to give you so much comfort.
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23rd February 2015, 01:24 PM	#27
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23rd February 2015, 01:26 PM	#28
ehcks Illuminator Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302	Originally Posted by Brainster It has always amused me that the same people who got the vapors at the notion of Sarah Palin being a heartbeat away from the presidency seem to think Joe Biden is well-qualified. You know Palin and Biden had a debate, right? And how that went?
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23rd February 2015, 01:33 PM	#29
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 32,468	Originally Posted by ehcks You know Palin and Biden had a debate, right? And how that went? My memory might be a little fuzy, but I'm pretty sure Biden rubbed her shoulders while Palin read all the newspapers.
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23rd February 2015, 01:42 PM	#30
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23rd February 2015, 01:47 PM	#31
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23rd February 2015, 02:09 PM	#32
BazBear Possible Suspect Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Stowe VT USA Posts: 2,865	Originally Posted by maxpower1227 Yeah, Biden is not exactly the most embarrassing VP we've had. He may be deserving of some ridicule now and then, but he isn't a monster like his predecessor. I agree; and I'll bet he can even spell potatoe, errr, potato, unlike a certain former VPOTUS. For all Biden's faults and gaffs, I am glad he's VP, instead of the former lady governor of Alaska (even if she is cuter )
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23rd February 2015, 03:17 PM	#33
LorenzoValla Muse Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 968	Cheney was condemned by the press so he's known as a villain. Biden is treated like someone's loopy uncle by the press, so no one cares.

23rd February 2015, 03:21 PM	#34
DavidJames Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Front Range, CO Posts: 10,493	Originally Posted by LorenzoValla Cheney was condemned by the press so he's known as a villain. Biden is treated like someone's loopy uncle by the press, so no one cares. Yup, perfect example of equivalence. One was vilified for WMD's, they'll welcome us like hero's, basically stuff that resulted in deaths. Biden? Yeah, same thing
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23rd February 2015, 03:33 PM	#35
Upchurch Papa Funkosophy Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 32,468	Originally Posted by DavidJames Yup, perfect example of equivalence. One was vilified for WMD's, they'll welcome us like hero's, basically stuff that resulted in deaths. Biden? Yeah, same thing Don't forget championing torture, ten and now, because I know I haven't. But yes, totally the same thing as being handsy to the point of creepy. Also, the only reason Cheney is vilified is because of his bad press, not because of cartoon villainous actions.
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