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Old 11th November 2016, 05:08 PM   #161
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It's like the OP lives in some sort of bizzaro opposite world.
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Old 11th November 2016, 05:15 PM   #162
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
Jail time? No thanks. I WILL fight to prevent that and you WILL NOT like the outcome.

kapice?
Sorry, no, I don't really get that. The deal gays have in Russia is a very good one, much better than they have in muslim countries and much better than what democrats have to offer them.
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Old 11th November 2016, 05:24 PM   #163
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Sorry, no, I don't really get that. The deal gays have in Russia is a very good one, much better than they have in muslim countries and much better than what democrats have to offer them.
Well, yeah. Like life in prison in the Bastille was better than being hanged, drawn and quartered, but it doesn't mean it was a piece of *********** cake.
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Old 11th November 2016, 05:36 PM   #164
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Just came through day 3 of the too little too late whine fest in the loop.

Yes, yes, **** trump and all but can you get out of the way, tbd has a train to catch, losers.

Oh are those tears? Don't support the most poltical insider in history next time ya dopes.
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Old 11th November 2016, 05:57 PM   #165
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The new normal.
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:07 PM   #166
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post

The new normal.
Ohhh, wrong emoji, because the dope lost
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:18 PM   #167
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
Just came through day 3 of the too little too late whine fest in the loop.

Yes, yes, **** trump and all but can you get out of the way, tbd has a train to catch, losers.

Oh are those tears? Don't support the most poltical insider in history next time ya dopes.
What is wrong with being an insider?
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:19 PM   #168
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
What is wrong with being an insider?
the most political insider ever?
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:22 PM   #169
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Donald Trump is offering queers more or less the same deal they have in Russia. (snip)
Alright Darat you've had your fun. Knock it off with the sock puppets to drive up participation.
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:24 PM   #170
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Originally Posted by Fidelio View Post
Alright Darat you've had your fun. Knock it off with the sock puppets to drive up participation.
Hey, that's my CT! Give it back!
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:28 PM   #171
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
the most political insider ever?
If there is nothing wrong with being an insider, what is the problem with being the most?
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:28 PM   #172
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Originally Posted by NoahFence View Post
A friend of mine's gay daughter was assaulted on campus yesterday. Her attacker cited his freedom to do so under the new President.

If you voted for Trump, you voted for that. Congratulations, *******.

Is your friend Mr Makeupstories man?
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:28 PM   #173
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DT defends gays from Clintons in 2000:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...clintons-2000/
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:30 PM   #174
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
If there is nothing wrong with being an insider, what is the problem with being the most?
who said there was nothing wrong with being the consummate hypocritical insider?
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:33 PM   #175
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
who said there was nothing wrong with being the consummate hypocritical insider?
You didn't say hypocritical earlier. Let's stick with insider, biggest insider, or consummate insider. What is wrong with that?
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:33 PM   #176
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Originally Posted by C_Felix View Post
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Not entirely sure about that, I'm above 30 and not living in the United States, my reaction to Trump winning was actual shock (heart racing, 'tingling feeling'), sufficiently so that I called someone to talk through the feelings.

I have an 'alternatively gendered' acquaintance and they testified to feeling much the same (Possibly closer to what I felt the night Kevin Rudd was elected Prime Minister, which was a panic attack.), however both of us are trying to deal with that and the resulting emotional instability without resorting to psychologists.

It's not easy for either of us, but we've found discussing our slightly differing political views when we meet has helped.
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:34 PM   #177
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Sorry, no, I don't really get that. The deal gays have in Russia is a very good one, much better than they have in muslim countries and much better than what democrats have to offer them.
If it's such a good deal then you'd be happy with all American Hetrosexuals living under the same law for them and their sexuality?
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:37 PM   #178
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A friend of mine's gay daughter was assaulted on campus yesterday. Her attacker cited his freedom to do so under the new President.

If you voted for Trump, you voted for that. Congratulations, *******.

My friends daughter was sexually assaulted by a Muslim Jihadist and a BLM activist. They said "take that Trump supporter".
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:39 PM   #179
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
You didn't say hypocritical earlier. Let's stick with insider, biggest insider, or consummate insider. What is wrong with that?
what do you think would be wrong with an insider, biggest insider, or consummate insider?

Seriously, flex those skeptics muscles! This thread is about whining losers, but I am curious to see you figure out what an alleged "populist" (hint hint hint!) in fact being the most insider candidate in the history of the country.
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:39 PM   #180
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Is your friend Mr Makeupstories man?
Yes, another illuminating post. Good show. It was more than three words without punctuation errors. Although Mr Makeupstories is a very awkward neology.
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:41 PM   #181
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
what do you think would be wrong with an insider, biggest insider, or consummate insider?

Seriously, flex those skeptics muscles! This thread is about whining losers, but I am curious to see you figure out what an alleged "populist" (hint hint hint!) in fact being the most insider candidate in the history of the country.
And yet, you won't answer the question. Your illusory superiority is showing again. Is that really the face you want to present as a non skeptic?
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:43 PM   #182
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Not entirely sure about that, I'm above 30 and not living in the United States, my reaction to Trump winning was actual shock (heart racing, 'tingling feeling'), sufficiently so that I called someone to talk through the feelings.

I have an 'alternatively gendered' acquaintance and they testified to feeling much the same (Possibly closer to what I felt the night Kevin Rudd was elected Prime Minister, which was a panic attack.), however both of us are trying to deal with that and the resulting emotional instability without resorting to psychologists.

It's not easy for either of us, but we've found discussing our slightly differing political views when we meet has helped.

Honestly the funniest part of my night, was by complete red neck white trash neighbor posted a video of himself basically crying, telling everyone that Trump ruined the life of his daughter and billions of people around the world. Keep in mind he's a serial cheater and his daughter is already a 5 year old basket case... Yeah Trump is going to ruin her life.
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:43 PM   #183
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
what do you think would be wrong with an insider, biggest insider, or consummate insider?

Seriously, flex those skeptics muscles! This thread is about whining losers, but I am curious to see you figure out what an alleged "populist" (hint hint hint!) in fact being the most insider candidate in the history of the country.
That is why I'm asking. Skeptics ask for information. I would like to hear from someone with an issue with insiders what is wrong with it.

TBD, most times people probably ignore what you think but that doesn't stop you. Someone finally sincerely wants your opinion.
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:44 PM   #184
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
what do you think would be wrong with an insider, biggest insider, or consummate insider?

Seriously, flex those skeptics muscles! This thread is about whining losers, but I am curious to see you figure out what an alleged "populist" (hint hint hint!) in fact being the most insider candidate in the history of the country.
Er, no it's not. Have another read of it. It's about something, that's for sure. What it's about could have come out of the Voynich manuscript, but it's not about whining losers.
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:46 PM   #185
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Honestly the funniest part of my night, was by complete red neck white trash neighbor posted a video of himself basically crying, telling everyone that Trump ruined the life of his daughter and billions of people around the world. Keep in mind he's a serial cheater and his daughter is already a 5 year old basket case... Yeah Trump is going to ruin her life.
Congratulations. You have found the only red neck white trash person not to have voted for Trump.
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Old 11th November 2016, 06:58 PM   #186
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It's like the OP lives in some sort of bizzaro opposite world.
You do realize the OP has also claimed that there are NASA technicians in ordinary clothing and simple oxygen masks in Mars, fixing the rovers? So there's your calibration standard, right there.
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Yes, lots of images of crybaby "It's only democracy if my candidate wins, now I'm triggered and demand a safe-space and time off class" students.

Boy, our schools are sure not preparing these folks for life outside the bubble.

But, in the spirit of Game of Thrones: "Graduation is coming."
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Is your friend Mr Makeupstories man?
The name is George Frederick Yeltzyn.
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Congratulations. You have found the only red neck white trash person not to have voted for Trump.

No. White trash comes in all political stripes. Especially urban white trash.
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A friend of mine's gay daughter was assaulted on campus yesterday. Her attacker cited his freedom to do so under the new President.

If you voted for Trump, you voted for that. Congratulations, *******.
I maintain a skeptical outlook.

It's too easy.
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who said there was nothing wrong with being the consummate hypocritical insider?
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I maintain a skeptical outlook.

It's too easy.
See #67.

When people appear to be posting sincerely about people they know, and follow up with a name, I usually give them the benefit of the doubt. I may be wrong, but I'd rather be wrong than totally cynical (please, I'm not calling you a cynic, it's a general point).
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See #67.

When people appear to be posting sincerely about people they know, and follow up with a name, I usually give them the benefit of the doubt. I may be wrong, but I'd rather be wrong than totally cynical (please, I'm not calling you a cynic, it's a general point).
I googled the name for.zero result. I thought it might prove something.
I put it down to a play on words or something. A mix of Handel and Yeltsin?

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A friend of mine's gay daughter was assaulted on campus yesterday. Her attacker cited his freedom to do so under the new President.

If you voted for Trump, you voted for that. Congratulations, *******.
Well a FOAF hate crime report is pretty conclusive
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LOL
That wasn't a real name.

Come on guys....
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The name is George Frederick Yeltzyn.
Have the lad file charges against her assailant. End of story. This is the first week following an upset election and people are going bat crap nuts because ut suddenly means the 3rd reich for some and a license to be biggoted by others. ANyone who commits a crime however goes to prison.
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Lol
There is no lad. That's not a real name.

It's a real story though. It's happening all over the place. What makes it surprising that there's a connection on here from one of those many places?
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Lol
There is no lad. That's not a real name.

It's a real story though. It's happening all over the place. What makes it surprising that there's a connection on here from one of those many places?
I do not doubt you that the event really happened.

It's not unskeptical to accept one person's commentary. You rely on context and who is posting. It's "give me certified evidence and a video I can see with my own eyes" which is unskeptical.
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Lol
There is no lad. That's not a real name.

It's a real story though. It's happening all over the place. What makes it surprising that there's a connection on here from one of those many places?
I take your anecdote at face value but at the ebd of the day the "lad" needs to get the suspect arrested. End of story
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I take your anecdote at face value but at the ebd of the day the "lad" needs to get the suspect arrested. End of story
And I agree with this too.
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