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Old 2nd January 2021, 05:22 PM   #3281
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco Home Vandalized With Graffiti And A Pig's Head Over Stimulus



Classy. Combined with the sorta anarchy symbol, I'm going to say it was almost certainly a right-winger being thoroughly uncivilized.
Very similar looking graffiti on the Oakland mayor's house back in July.
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Old 2nd January 2021, 06:36 PM   #3282
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Originally Posted by dirtywick View Post
iím in the fence about the deficit. the ones most concerned about it also believe in supply side economics. in reality the US has experienced a lot of economic growth it otherwise would not have due to deficit spending.

I mean I understand that thereís a point where the US canít make itís interest payment which would be bad. but Iím also aware that point is a moving target and itís also possible GDP growth and tax adjustments can sustain deficit spending indefinitely. Itís also likely that balancing the budget and cutting spending would shrink the economy to the point that itís more harmful than continued deficit spending.
If tyou being trillion of dollasrs into debt is a good thing, you know nothing about economics or reality.

If you think that is what his post meant then you know nothing about reading.
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Old 2nd January 2021, 06:51 PM   #3283
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco Home Vandalized With Graffiti And A Pig's Head Over Stimulus

Classy. Combined with the sorta anarchy symbol, I'm going to say it was almost certainly a right-winger being thoroughly uncivilized.
The Hill: McConnell's home was also vandalized. I don't get it why they are blaming Pelosi.
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Old 2nd January 2021, 06:55 PM   #3284
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco Home Vandalized With Graffiti And A Pig's Head Over Stimulus



Classy. Combined with the sorta anarchy symbol, I'm going to say it was almost certainly a right-winger being thoroughly uncivilized.
I have seen pleny of anarchist signs at the BLM Police Shootings protests.
I don't know who did this, but anybody who things the SF Bay area does not have lsome wackjob left wing groups fully capable of doing this is incredibly ignorant or wearing some huge partisan blinders.
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Old 2nd January 2021, 07:10 PM   #3285
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
The Hill: McConnell's home was also vandalized. I don't get it why they are blaming Pelosi.
At last check, the right wing propagandists have repeatedly tried to blame the Democrats for not letting aid happen... including during the long time period after the House Democrats passed exactly that and McConnell was refusing to allow anything like that get a vote without corporations being made immune to any legal action related to Covid.
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Old 2nd January 2021, 07:13 PM   #3286
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I have seen pleny of anarchist signs at the BLM Police Shootings protests.
I don't know who did this, but anybody who things the SF Bay area does not have lsome wackjob left wing groups fully capable of doing this is incredibly ignorant or wearing some huge partisan blinders.
It's certainly possible that some left-wing group could have done it. With that said, "WE WANT EVERYTHING!" makes it look a heck of a lot more like the work of a right-winger fed lots of inane caricature, though. The choice of target also strongly suggests right-wing propaganda influence, as well, as poked at a bit in the post above.
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Old 2nd January 2021, 07:45 PM   #3287
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To poke at an Adam Schiff tweet...

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Last year, we proved Donald Trump guilty of abusing the power of his office.

But Republican Senators refused to convict, claiming on principle, voters should decide.

Now, those same Senators wish to overturn the election results.

They have no principle, only fear and ambition.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 12:23 AM   #3288
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

Will be in Georgia on Monday night, 9:00 P.M. to RALLY for two GREAT people, @sendavidperdue & @KLoeffler. GET READY TO VOTE ON TUESDAY!!!
9 pm?!? Isn't that a bit late for the working stiff?
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Old 3rd January 2021, 12:28 AM   #3289
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Is he referring to the return of Iran's own funds?
Yes, he is. That is one of the obligatory lies all Republicans bleat out whenever Democratic bashing is called for. I have a friend (in Texas) who repeats this lie even though I've disabused him of it countless times. Gawd, it's frustrating.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 12:32 AM   #3290
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Trump Tweets

Civil War: Tucker Carlson Hits His Own Network in Epic Post-Election Monologue

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2020/11...nlogue-n277737
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They are now getting into the practice of ďprotectingĒ viewers from information they donít like.
Now? NOW!! The Sun is now round.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 12:36 AM   #3291
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9 pm?!? Isn't that a bit late for the working stiff?
Probably the earliest to catch some ratings on the west and the east coasts.

It's tells you Georgia is not his target audience.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 12:48 AM   #3292
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Gosh--that almost sounds like part of forming a Deep State in opposition to the duly elected leaders.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 04:56 AM   #3293
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Kevin Sorbo tweets

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According to the media and radical left, Trump is a very mean bad man.
So why is he the only politician who donated his salary during the covid shutdown?

It’s genuinely sad to see that Trump, one of the few politicians that genuinely cares about us, supposedly lose an election because half the nation believed their TV sets

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Old 3rd January 2021, 05:40 AM   #3294
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I love that last line.

It's sad to see Trump lose except he didn't but if he did, which he didn't, it's all from TV lies.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 06:43 AM   #3295
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Kevin Sorbo tweets

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According to the media and radical left, Trump is a very mean bad man.
So why is he the only politician who donated his salary during the covid shutdown?

It’s genuinely sad to see that Trump, one of the few politicians that genuinely cares about us, supposedly lose an election because half the nation believed their TV sets
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY
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Old 3rd January 2021, 07:10 AM   #3296
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does this principle not hold on a macroeconomics scale? if not, why not?
It certainly does work on a macroeconomic scale, even more so since a government has a means to increase its income fairly easily. Deficit spending is not inherently bad. Of course, there's a point at which your debt in relation to income is getting too high, and in the good times you want to make sure you can build up some wiggle room for the bad times. So during periods of economic growth, you shouldn't be looking to increase the amount of debt in relation to GDP.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 08:10 AM   #3297
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It certainly does work on a macroeconomic scale, even more so since a government has a means to increase its income fairly easily. Deficit spending is not inherently bad. Of course, there's a point at which your debt in relation to income is getting too high, and in the good times you want to make sure you can build up some wiggle room for the bad times. So during periods of economic growth, you shouldn't be looking to increase the amount of debt in relation to GDP.
that depends entirely on the interest rate you can lock in for your debt long-term, rather than the strength of the economy.
Chances are, a government can raise money more easily in a boom than it can in a bust.
So the financial policy should be geared towards shifting obligations from high- to low-interest and make investments with a long-term payoff.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 08:34 AM   #3298
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
that depends entirely on the interest rate you can lock in for your debt long-term, rather than the strength of the economy.
Chances are, a government can raise money more easily in a boom than it can in a bust.
So the financial policy should be geared towards shifting obligations from high- to low-interest and make investments with a long-term payoff.
Well, yeah, it's all rather complicated. the overall point is "OMG we have so much debt!" is missing that a government having a lot of debt isn't a fundamentally bad thing depending on the debt structure and the amount relative to revenue, etc. If the debt is being easily serviced, then there's little issue.

When the economy is generally performing well that's when you want to start making the debt situation more favorable. That way when the economy tanks you have the leeway pour money back into the economy to help get it back on track (or at least hold people over until it gets back on track on its own).

Ideally, you want to be able to spend during an economic downturn rather than implement austerity measures, and save during good economic times. It's why I think Trump's tax cuts and such were a bad idea. The economy was continuing to cruise along, it didn't need a boost. Now there's less in the toolbox to deal with a serious economic issue.

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Old 3rd January 2021, 02:41 PM   #3299
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Kevin Sorbo tweets

@ksorbs
According to the media and radical left, Trump is a very mean bad man.
So why is he the only politician who donated his salary during the covid shutdown?
Kevin Sorbo isn't known for his acting skills. And now we know why he's also not known for his intellectual skills.

Trump is also making money hand over fist while being in office for being in office.

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Itís genuinely sad to see that Trump, one of the few politicians that genuinely cares about us, supposedly lose an election because half the nation believed their TV sets
Dis boy done losed his mind.
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Kevin Sorbo isn't known for his acting skills. And now we know why he's also not known for his intellectual skills.

Trump is also making money hand over fist while being in office for being in office.



Dis boy done losed his mind.
He's simply living in the Kooky Kristian fantasyland that all KK Trump supporters create for themselves to justify standing behind an objectively horrible human being.
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He's simply living in the Kooky Kristian fantasyland that all KK Trump supporters create for themselves to justify standing behind an objectively horrible human being.
The trouble is, there's seventy-four million of them. Stick a fork in us, we're done.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 05:30 PM   #3302
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Kevin Sorbo tweets

@ksorbs
According to the media and radical left, Trump is a very mean bad man.
So why is he the only politician who donated his salary during the covid shutdown?

Itís genuinely sad to see that Trump, one of the few politicians that genuinely cares about us, supposedly lose an election because half the nation believed their TV sets
There but for a single letter spelling alteration lies the TRVTH.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 05:53 PM   #3303
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Chances are, a government can raise money more easily in a boom than it can in a bust.

Actually, no.

When in boom times the government competes with other borrowers
thus raising interest rates on all other borrowers and ultimately forcing
some of the other out of the market when they cannot pay those rates.
Government borrowing in boom times acts as brake on economic growth.

When in a bust, people who loan money become afraid that they will not
get their monty back and either will not lend or lend to people who they
feel certain they will get their money back in time. Governments have a
rather unique asset in that they can tax almost anything. Thus people
who lend see them as safe places to lend money.

Not only can government borrow money cheaply during a bust, they can
also pay much less for projects and hire people for less than in a normal
economy. But it comes at a price, money spent by the government shortens
the bust. Likewise, if government payed off its debts during boom times,
the money flowing back into price loans extends the boom.
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Old 3rd January 2021, 06:00 PM   #3304
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Nancy Pelosi's San Francisco Home Vandalized With Graffiti And A Pig's Head Over Stimulus



Classy. Combined with the sorta anarchy symbol, I'm going to say it was almost certainly a right-winger being thoroughly uncivilized.
How can you have pork in a stimulus bill?

By definition, its about giving money away. The whole question is who gets it?
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Old 3rd January 2021, 06:31 PM   #3305
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Trump the grifter

The price of a room for Tuesday night at the Trump I’ntl DC is ten times the price of its rooms on an average Tuesday night ($460—> $4600).

None of the other 5-star (or even 4-star) hotels within walking distance of the Capitol Mall have even doubled their prices.

ETA
Prices on their website for Jan 4-6 are $1600, $4600, and $4600. But they are running a special: all three nights for $3000.
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Kevin Sorbo isn't known for his acting skills. And now we know why he's also not known for his intellectual skills.
He's not wrong to decry television, though: having seen Andromeda I can safely agree that TV is nothing but a spewing of nonsensical crap and ought to have been stopped.
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
Kevin Sorbo tweets

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According to the media and radical left, Trump is a very mean bad man.
So why is he the only politician who donated his salary during the covid shutdown?
What a great humanitarian Trump is ... just as long as you don't count the $Millions he has taken by both legal and illegal means as a result of his holding the presidency.
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And now for something completely the same:

Trump to give Reps. Jim Jordan and Devin Nunes Presidential Medal of Freedom
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Oooo, I bet that will make them proud little boys.


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Presidential Medal Of Loyal Kissassery.
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That thing lost all meaning when he gave it to Rush
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That thing lost all meaning when he gave it to Rush
Yeah, we will now have to create a new medal to honor Americans who have made great contributions to this country, Trump had degraded the Presendential Medal of Freedom beyond all repair.
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That thing lost all meaning when he gave it to Rush
GW Bush gave them out to people who should not have gotten them too. I think Heck-of-a-job Brownie got one.

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Our only hope is that in the middle of the awards ceremony, Trump wanders off in a stupor.

From: NY Mag
Trump wasnít able to fully commit to his final Presidential Medal of Freedom ceremony. After giving the highest award a civilian can earn to wrestler Dan Gable...the president bailed on the ceremony a bit early, leaving Gable alone and more than a little confused
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Our only hope is that in the middle of the awards ceremony, Trump wanders off in a stupor.

From: NY Mag
Trump wasn’t able to fully commit to his final Presidential Medal of Freedom ceremony. After giving the highest award a civilian can earn to wrestler Dan Gable...the president bailed on the ceremony a bit early, leaving Gable alone and more than a little confused
It would appear the easiest way to turn the event into a shambling wreck would be to insult Diaper Don on Twitter just before he went on stage (or wherever they do this kind of thing). Then (what is left of) his brain will be on something else entirely, and he will likely use the available microphone to launch yet another meaningless diatribe about how he really won the election BIGLY, etc. And forget why he was there and not give the two suck-asses their ju-ju beads.
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He's not wrong to decry television, though: having seen Andromeda I can safely agree that TV is nothing but a spewing of nonsensical crap and ought to have been stopped.
Well, Mr Sorbo did have four strokes, which may have affected his thinking...

And as for Andromeda, have you seen how the showrunner who left, meant it to end?
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Will that be before, after, or concurrent with the presentation of their pardons?
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Can those medals be revoked?
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Can those medals be revoked?
According to Wikipedia:
"In 2015, in response to questions about the medal awarded to Bill Cosby in 2002, after the truth about his sex offenses came out, President Barack Obama stated that there was no precedent to revoke Presidential Medals of Freedom."
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Old 4th January 2021, 01:08 AM   #3320
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Yeah, we will now have to create a new medal to honor Americans who have made great contributions to this country, Trump had degraded the Presendential Medal of Freedom beyond all repair.
What they should do is create a brand new Medal/Honor (Presidential medal of being an awesome guy), but keep the old Medal of Freedom around.

Then, Democrats can give the new medal to anyone who is actually a decent person, and give the Medal of Freedom to various republicans, as well as serial killers, con artists, etc. Really let it be known how much in contempt we find people like Nunes, Jordan and Lympthnode.
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