2020 Presidential Election part 2 - Page 9

Safe-Keeper · 3rd November 2020, 05:58 PM

Lots of results coming in, Biden has 85 electoral votes so far to Trump's 55.

Fingers crossed for PA.

cullennz · 3rd November 2020, 05:58 PM

This is just confusing the **** out of me.

Is the ratio popular votes?

And if so what is the electoral current ratio?

And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers?

Cain · 3rd November 2020, 06:01 PM

Predictit's users are giving the edge to Trump in N. Carolina (though Biden is still a favorite to win the election with 68 cents).

Sideroxylon · 3rd November 2020, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

This is just confusing the **** out of me.

Is the ratio popular votes?

And if so what is the electoral current ratio?

And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers?

Grab a cold beverage, find some expert commentary and watch this thing unfold.

Safe-Keeper · 3rd November 2020, 06:01 PM

Results are starting to come in from TX. Biden has an early lead, but only 13% of districts have been counted.

eta
51-47 to Biden so far, but I don't dare hope too much, I suppose the early votes counted so far are Dem-heavy early votes.
16% of districts have been counted.

eta2
PA results starting to come in, huge lead to Biden, but... 1% of districts counted.

crescent · 3rd November 2020, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

This is just confusing the **** out of me.

Is the ratio popular votes?

And if so what is the electoral current ratio?

And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers?

Each state has as many electoral college votes as it has Senators + House Representatives. Most states are all-or-nothing, they give ALL electoral college votes to whoever gets the most votes in that state. The snake chart on 538 shows how many EC votes each state has, if that helps.

Trebuchet · 3rd November 2020, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Lots of results coming in, Biden has 85 electoral votes so far to Trump's 55.

Fingers crossed for PA.

Meaningless. As I can't (and don't really wish to) keep up with the thread, I shall now go sit in the other room with a glass of red plonk and a bottle of water and read a crappy historical novel on Kindle.

My watching or not watching will make not the slightest difference. Nor will my vote.

TahiniBinShawarma · 3rd November 2020, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

Results are starting to come in from TX. Biden has an early lead, but only 13% of districts have been counted.

I don't think Biden has a snowball's chance in hell of winning Texas.

TahiniBinShawarma · 3rd November 2020, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by crescent

Each state has as many electoral college votes as it has Senators + House Representatives. Most states are all-or-nothing, they give ALL electoral college votes to whoever gets the most votes in that state. The snake chart on 538 shows how many EC votes each state has, if that helps.

Plus 3 electoral votes for for D.C.

Bob001 · 3rd November 2020, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

This is just confusing the **** out of me.

Is the ratio popular votes?

And if so what is the electoral current ratio?

And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers?

Basics: Each state gets electors equal to its total number of representatives plus its two senators for a total of 538 electoral votes. A candidate has to get at least 270 to win.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ctoral_College

Edited to add: Yes, plus three for D.C.

Cain · 3rd November 2020, 06:06 PM

I'm not sure why people think it's so complicated. An Electoral College is just plain ol' common sense if you're retarded.

Bob001 · 3rd November 2020, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

This is just confusing the **** out of me.
....

You're in Australia, right? Are your media giving the U.S. election much coverage?

Distracted1 · 3rd November 2020, 06:08 PM

Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma

I don't think Biden has a snowball's chance in hell of winning Texas.

Nor I. Although I very much wish to be wrong about that.

Venom · 3rd November 2020, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Sideroxylon

Sanders would have won this.

Florida?

I'm....not so sure about that.

Safe-Keeper · 3rd November 2020, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Meaningless. As I can't (and don't really wish to) keep up with the thread, I shall now go sit in the other room with a glass of red plonk and a bottle of water and read a crappy historical novel on Kindle.

Probably a far better decision than following every tiniest scrap of news. But I can't tear my eyes away from the coverage.

Have a nice read, and enjoy your glass of red

.

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

My watching or not watching will make not the slightest difference.

Very true.

Puppycow · 3rd November 2020, 06:10 PM

Apparently Trump is doing strongly among Cuban Americans in Florida.

Looks like Biden can write off any hope of winning Florida. Nate Silver had a post showing that he was doing slightly better among older voters though. The Cuban American thing is mainly a Florida thing, so it might not mean much when it comes to other states.

Aridas · 3rd November 2020, 06:11 PM

To poke at something quite sigh-worthy -

Quote:

BREAKING: USPS fails to meet deadline set by U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan to sweep facilities and immediately deliver remaining mail ballots. As of this week, USPS said there were some 300,000 ballots that lacked a delivery scan

Not evenly distributed, either, apparently.

Quote:

Data recently disclosed as part of ongoing lawsuits against the agency show some alarming delivery rates. On 30 October, the agency reported delivering just 72.8% of ballots on time in the Detroit postal district, according to the Washington Post, which could make a big difference in the election.

Venom · 3rd November 2020, 06:12 PM

So Florida is in the Trump column.

Three to go:

Ohio looking okay so far for Biden with 45% showing.
Georgia uncertain so far
NC war too early

cullennz · 3rd November 2020, 06:13 PM

Bit odd how all the states polls stop at different times.

Personally think people watching the current results might be influenced.

Galaxie · 3rd November 2020, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Bit odd how all the states polls stop at different times.

Personally think people watching the current results might be influenced.

That's another reason why the electoral college sucks

Stacyhs · 3rd November 2020, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Sideroxylon

Sanders would have won this.

You just can't let go, can you?

Aridas · 3rd November 2020, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

You're in Australia, right? Are your media giving the U.S. election much coverage?

It may be worth a reminder that the US is still the most influential country in the world, even after Trump's been working to cripple us on that front - and when we're facing a time that is very strongly reminiscent of the Nazis taking power in Germany, its one of those things that's hard to ignore even if one wants to.

Safe-Keeper · 3rd November 2020, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Apparently Trump is doing strongly among Cuban Americans in Florida.

It's depressing if scare-mongering about "socialism" really has tipped the state.
Elections should be won or lost on facts.

cullennz · 3rd November 2020, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

You're in Australia, right? Are your media giving the U.S. election much coverage?

Lol

Um no.

NZ

And yes. Heaps more than I think is warranted given it is another country.

Interesting though, even if I think it is way over complicated.

Just give it to the dude who gets the most people's votes.

It is easier

Bob001 · 3rd November 2020, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Apparently Trump is doing strongly among Cuban Americans in Florida.

Looks like Biden can write off any hope of winning Florida. Nate Silver had a post showing that he was doing slightly better among older voters though. The Cuban American thing is mainly a Florida thing, so it might not mean much when it comes to other states.

Some of the Cubans still have a fantasy that they will someday return to Cuba and get their stuff back. They are not the stereotypical Hispanic immigrant.

Cain · 3rd November 2020, 06:19 PM

If Trump loses, what's the most common headline tomorrow? I'm guessing, "You're Fired!"

TahiniBinShawarma · 3rd November 2020, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper

It's depressing if scare-mongering about "socialism" really has tipped the state.
Elections should be won or lost on facts.

Are you saying the Cuban community is too stupid to know what's good for them?

Safe-Keeper · 3rd November 2020, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Cain

If Trump loses, what's the most common headline tomorrow? I'm guessing, "You're Fired!"

For sure.
And I'm celebrating with cake.

Bob001 · 3rd November 2020, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

Lol

Um no.

NZ
....

You mean they're not different words for the same place? Like Holland and the Netherlands?

TahiniBinShawarma · 3rd November 2020, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Some of the Cubans still have a fantasy that they will someday return to Cuba and get their stuff back. They are not the stereotypical Hispanic immigrant.

They're right in line with the Venezuelans I know. I guess they aren't the stereotypical immigrant either because they don't vote the way you think they should.

cullennz · 3rd November 2020, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Cain

If Trump loses, what's the most common headline tomorrow? I'm guessing, "You're Fired!"

Make America less insular and uber nationalistic again!

cullennz · 3rd November 2020, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Bob001

You mean they're not different words for the same place? Like Holland and the Netherlands?

Lol

Kind of is tbf, given our relationship.

Just think of it as we are the cooler and more charismatic of the two.

Bob001 · 3rd November 2020, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma

They're right in line with the Venezuelans I know. I guess they aren't the stereotypical immigrant either because they don't vote the way you think they should.

Not really a question of how they vote. Many Hispanic immigrants came here from poor countries to make a better life for themselves. Many Cuban immigrants were well-educated and prosperous, if not rich, and were running for their lives from Castro, and for a long time they hoped Castro would be overthrown.

Venom · 3rd November 2020, 06:27 PM

If social media is any indicator, a huge chunk of the Trump base is just tryhard trolls who laugh at "liberal tears" and spam TRUMP 2020 every other minute in the chat.

Cain · 3rd November 2020, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Venom

If social media is any indicator, a huge chunk of the Trump base is just tryhard trolls who laugh at "liberal tears" and spam TRUMP 2020 every other minute in the chat.

Amateurs. TRUMP 2024 (and forever)!

TahiniBinShawarma · 3rd November 2020, 06:28 PM

Trump flips Scotland County, NC from Clinton+8 to Trump+2

Tero · 3rd November 2020, 06:29 PM

This just in! Florida:
Biden 49.XY
Trump 49.YX

Safe-Keeper · 3rd November 2020, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Venom

If social media is any indicator, a huge chunk of the Trump base is just tryhard trolls who laugh at "liberal tears" and spam TRUMP 2020 every other minute in the chat.

Nothing new there.

angrysoba · 3rd November 2020, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by cullennz

This is just confusing the **** out of me.

Is the ratio popular votes?

And if so what is the electoral current ratio?

And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers?

Is this serious?

It's the number of Representatives + Senators each state has. And Washington DC gets 3.

100 Senators
435 Representatives
+ 3 DC
= 538.

There's a good website that might help with that. I can't quite remember the name though...

Can anyone help?

TahiniBinShawarma · 3rd November 2020, 06:31 PM

Virginia was called for Biden but everywhere I look it says Biden 40% Trump 57%

3rd November 2020, 05:58 PM	#321
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,396	Lots of results coming in, Biden has 85 electoral votes so far to Trump's 55. Fingers crossed for PA.
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3rd November 2020, 05:58 PM	#322
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,979	This is just confusing the **** out of me. Is the ratio popular votes? And if so what is the electoral current ratio? And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers?
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3rd November 2020, 06:01 PM	#323
Cain Straussian Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,302	Predictit's users are giving the edge to Trump in N. Carolina (though Biden is still a favorite to win the election with 68 cents).
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3rd November 2020, 06:01 PM	#325
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,396	Results are starting to come in from TX. Biden has an early lead, but only 13% of districts have been counted. eta 51-47 to Biden so far, but I don't dare hope too much, I suppose the early votes counted so far are Dem-heavy early votes. 16% of districts have been counted. eta2 PA results starting to come in, huge lead to Biden, but... 1% of districts counted.
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3rd November 2020, 06:02 PM	#327
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,271	Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper Lots of results coming in, Biden has 85 electoral votes so far to Trump's 55. Fingers crossed for PA. Meaningless. As I can't (and don't really wish to) keep up with the thread, I shall now go sit in the other room with a glass of red plonk and a bottle of water and read a crappy historical novel on Kindle. My watching or not watching will make not the slightest difference. Nor will my vote.
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3rd November 2020, 06:01 PM	#324
Sideroxylon Featherless biped Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aporia Posts: 24,443	Originally Posted by cullennz This is just confusing the **** out of me. Is the ratio popular votes? And if so what is the electoral current ratio? And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers? Grab a cold beverage, find some expert commentary and watch this thing unfold.

3rd November 2020, 06:02 PM	#326
crescent Illuminator Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Colorado Posts: 4,021	Originally Posted by cullennz This is just confusing the **** out of me. Is the ratio popular votes? And if so what is the electoral current ratio? And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers? Each state has as many electoral college votes as it has Senators + House Representatives. Most states are all-or-nothing, they give ALL electoral college votes to whoever gets the most votes in that state. The snake chart on 538 shows how many EC votes each state has, if that helps.

3rd November 2020, 06:04 PM	#328
TahiniBinShawarma Muse Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 756	Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper Results are starting to come in from TX. Biden has an early lead, but only 13% of districts have been counted. I don't think Biden has a snowball's chance in hell of winning Texas.
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3rd November 2020, 06:05 PM	#329
TahiniBinShawarma Muse Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 756	Originally Posted by crescent Each state has as many electoral college votes as it has Senators + House Representatives. Most states are all-or-nothing, they give ALL electoral college votes to whoever gets the most votes in that state. The snake chart on 538 shows how many EC votes each state has, if that helps. Plus 3 electoral votes for for D.C.
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3rd November 2020, 06:05 PM	#330
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,963	Originally Posted by cullennz This is just confusing the **** out of me. Is the ratio popular votes? And if so what is the electoral current ratio? And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers? Basics: Each state gets electors equal to its total number of representatives plus its two senators for a total of 538 electoral votes. A candidate has to get at least 270 to win. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ctoral_College Edited to add: Yes, plus three for D.C.

3rd November 2020, 06:06 PM	#331
Cain Straussian Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,302	I'm not sure why people think it's so complicated. An Electoral College is just plain ol' common sense if you're retarded.
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3rd November 2020, 06:07 PM	#332
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,963	Originally Posted by cullennz This is just confusing the **** out of me. .... You're in Australia, right? Are your media giving the U.S. election much coverage?

3rd November 2020, 06:08 PM	#333
Distracted1 Philosopher Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 5,611	Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma I don't think Biden has a snowball's chance in hell of winning Texas. Nor I. Although I very much wish to be wrong about that.
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3rd November 2020, 06:10 PM	#334
Venom Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,958	Originally Posted by Sideroxylon Sanders would have won this. Florida? I'm....not so sure about that.

3rd November 2020, 06:10 PM	#335
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,396	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Meaningless. As I can't (and don't really wish to) keep up with the thread, I shall now go sit in the other room with a glass of red plonk and a bottle of water and read a crappy historical novel on Kindle. Probably a far better decision than following every tiniest scrap of news. But I can't tear my eyes away from the coverage. Have a nice read, and enjoy your glass of red . Originally Posted by Trebuchet My watching or not watching will make not the slightest difference. Very true.
	__________________ "He's like a drunk being given a sobriety test by the police after being pulled over. Just as a drunk can't walk a straight line, Trump can't think in a straight line. He's all over the place."--Stacyhs "If you are still hung up on that whole words-have-meaning thing, then 2020 is going to be a long year for you." --Ladewig

3rd November 2020, 06:10 PM	#336
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 25,868	Apparently Trump is doing strongly among Cuban Americans in Florida. Looks like Biden can write off any hope of winning Florida. Nate Silver had a post showing that he was doing slightly better among older voters though. The Cuban American thing is mainly a Florida thing, so it might not mean much when it comes to other states.
	__________________ A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool. William Shakespeare

3rd November 2020, 06:11 PM	#337
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 7,573	To poke at something quite sigh-worthy - Quote: BREAKING: USPS fails to meet deadline set by U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan to sweep facilities and immediately deliver remaining mail ballots. As of this week, USPS said there were some 300,000 ballots that lacked a delivery scan Not evenly distributed, either, apparently. Quote: Data recently disclosed as part of ongoing lawsuits against the agency show some alarming delivery rates. On 30 October, the agency reported delivering just 72.8% of ballots on time in the Detroit postal district, according to the Washington Post, which could make a big difference in the election.
	__________________ So sayeth the crazy little dragon.

3rd November 2020, 06:12 PM	#338
Venom Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,958	So Florida is in the Trump column. Three to go: Ohio looking okay so far for Biden with 45% showing. Georgia uncertain so far NC war too early

3rd November 2020, 06:13 PM	#339
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,979	Bit odd how all the states polls stop at different times. Personally think people watching the current results might be influenced.
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3rd November 2020, 06:15 PM	#340
Galaxie Muse Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 781	Originally Posted by cullennz Bit odd how all the states polls stop at different times. Personally think people watching the current results might be influenced. That's another reason why the electoral college sucks

3rd November 2020, 06:15 PM	#341
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,212	Originally Posted by Sideroxylon Sanders would have won this. You just can't let go, can you?

3rd November 2020, 06:15 PM	#342
Aridas Crazy Little Green Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: East Coast, US Posts: 7,573	Originally Posted by Bob001 You're in Australia, right? Are your media giving the U.S. election much coverage? It may be worth a reminder that the US is still the most influential country in the world, even after Trump's been working to cripple us on that front - and when we're facing a time that is very strongly reminiscent of the Nazis taking power in Germany, its one of those things that's hard to ignore even if one wants to.
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3rd November 2020, 06:16 PM	#343
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,396	Originally Posted by Puppycow Apparently Trump is doing strongly among Cuban Americans in Florida. It's depressing if scare-mongering about "socialism" really has tipped the state. Elections should be won or lost on facts.
	__________________ "He's like a drunk being given a sobriety test by the police after being pulled over. Just as a drunk can't walk a straight line, Trump can't think in a straight line. He's all over the place."--Stacyhs "If you are still hung up on that whole words-have-meaning thing, then 2020 is going to be a long year for you." --Ladewig

3rd November 2020, 06:17 PM	#344
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,979	Originally Posted by Bob001 You're in Australia, right? Are your media giving the U.S. election much coverage? Lol Um no. NZ And yes. Heaps more than I think is warranted given it is another country. Interesting though, even if I think it is way over complicated. Just give it to the dude who gets the most people's votes. It is easier
	__________________ "I mean, you've got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a story-book, man," Biden said. 2007 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna16911044

3rd November 2020, 06:18 PM	#345
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,963	Originally Posted by Puppycow Apparently Trump is doing strongly among Cuban Americans in Florida. Looks like Biden can write off any hope of winning Florida. Nate Silver had a post showing that he was doing slightly better among older voters though. The Cuban American thing is mainly a Florida thing, so it might not mean much when it comes to other states. Some of the Cubans still have a fantasy that they will someday return to Cuba and get their stuff back. They are not the stereotypical Hispanic immigrant.

3rd November 2020, 06:19 PM	#346
Cain Straussian Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,302	If Trump loses, what's the most common headline tomorrow? I'm guessing, "You're Fired!"
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3rd November 2020, 06:21 PM	#347
TahiniBinShawarma Muse Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 756	Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper It's depressing if scare-mongering about "socialism" really has tipped the state. Elections should be won or lost on facts. Are you saying the Cuban community is too stupid to know what's good for them?
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3rd November 2020, 06:21 PM	#348
Safe-Keeper Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Norway Posts: 10,396	Originally Posted by Cain If Trump loses, what's the most common headline tomorrow? I'm guessing, "You're Fired!" For sure. And I'm celebrating with cake.
	__________________ "He's like a drunk being given a sobriety test by the police after being pulled over. Just as a drunk can't walk a straight line, Trump can't think in a straight line. He's all over the place."--Stacyhs "If you are still hung up on that whole words-have-meaning thing, then 2020 is going to be a long year for you." --Ladewig

3rd November 2020, 06:22 PM	#349
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,963	Originally Posted by cullennz Lol Um no. NZ .... You mean they're not different words for the same place? Like Holland and the Netherlands?

3rd November 2020, 06:22 PM	#350
TahiniBinShawarma Muse Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 756	Originally Posted by Bob001 Some of the Cubans still have a fantasy that they will someday return to Cuba and get their stuff back. They are not the stereotypical Hispanic immigrant. They're right in line with the Venezuelans I know. I guess they aren't the stereotypical immigrant either because they don't vote the way you think they should.
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3rd November 2020, 06:22 PM	#351
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,979	Originally Posted by Cain If Trump loses, what's the most common headline tomorrow? I'm guessing, "You're Fired!" Make America less insular and uber nationalistic again!
	__________________ "I mean, you've got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a story-book, man," Biden said. 2007 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna16911044

3rd November 2020, 06:24 PM	#352
cullennz Embarrasingly illiterate Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: NZ Posts: 19,979	Originally Posted by Bob001 You mean they're not different words for the same place? Like Holland and the Netherlands? Lol Kind of is tbf, given our relationship. Just think of it as we are the cooler and more charismatic of the two.
	__________________ "I mean, you've got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a story-book, man," Biden said. 2007 https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna16911044

3rd November 2020, 06:27 PM	#353
Bob001 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: US of A Posts: 12,963	Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma They're right in line with the Venezuelans I know. I guess they aren't the stereotypical immigrant either because they don't vote the way you think they should. Not really a question of how they vote. Many Hispanic immigrants came here from poor countries to make a better life for themselves. Many Cuban immigrants were well-educated and prosperous, if not rich, and were running for their lives from Castro, and for a long time they hoped Castro would be overthrown.

3rd November 2020, 06:27 PM	#354
Venom Illuminator Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: United States Posts: 4,958	If social media is any indicator, a huge chunk of the Trump base is just tryhard trolls who laugh at "liberal tears" and spam TRUMP 2020 every other minute in the chat.

3rd November 2020, 06:28 PM	#355
Cain Straussian Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,302	Originally Posted by Venom If social media is any indicator, a huge chunk of the Trump base is just tryhard trolls who laugh at "liberal tears" and spam TRUMP 2020 every other minute in the chat. Amateurs. TRUMP 2024 (and forever)!
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