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Old 3rd November 2020, 05:58 PM   #321
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Lots of results coming in, Biden has 85 electoral votes so far to Trump's 55.

Fingers crossed for PA.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 05:58 PM   #322
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This is just confusing the **** out of me.

Is the ratio popular votes?

And if so what is the electoral current ratio?

And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers?
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:01 PM   #323
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Predictit's users are giving the edge to Trump in N. Carolina (though Biden is still a favorite to win the election with 68 cents).
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:01 PM   #324
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
This is just confusing the **** out of me.

Is the ratio popular votes?

And if so what is the electoral current ratio?

And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers?
Grab a cold beverage, find some expert commentary and watch this thing unfold.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:01 PM   #325
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Results are starting to come in from TX. Biden has an early lead, but only 13% of districts have been counted.

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51-47 to Biden so far, but I don't dare hope too much, I suppose the early votes counted so far are Dem-heavy early votes.
16% of districts have been counted.

eta2
PA results starting to come in, huge lead to Biden, but... 1% of districts counted.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:02 PM   #326
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
This is just confusing the **** out of me.

Is the ratio popular votes?

And if so what is the electoral current ratio?

And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers?
Each state has as many electoral college votes as it has Senators + House Representatives. Most states are all-or-nothing, they give ALL electoral college votes to whoever gets the most votes in that state. The snake chart on 538 shows how many EC votes each state has, if that helps.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:02 PM   #327
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Originally Posted by Safe-Keeper View Post
Lots of results coming in, Biden has 85 electoral votes so far to Trump's 55.

Fingers crossed for PA.
Meaningless. As I can't (and don't really wish to) keep up with the thread, I shall now go sit in the other room with a glass of red plonk and a bottle of water and read a crappy historical novel on Kindle.

My watching or not watching will make not the slightest difference. Nor will my vote.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:04 PM   #328
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Results are starting to come in from TX. Biden has an early lead, but only 13% of districts have been counted.
I don't think Biden has a snowball's chance in hell of winning Texas.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:05 PM   #329
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Each state has as many electoral college votes as it has Senators + House Representatives. Most states are all-or-nothing, they give ALL electoral college votes to whoever gets the most votes in that state. The snake chart on 538 shows how many EC votes each state has, if that helps.
Plus 3 electoral votes for for D.C.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:05 PM   #330
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
This is just confusing the **** out of me.

Is the ratio popular votes?

And if so what is the electoral current ratio?

And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers?
Basics: Each state gets electors equal to its total number of representatives plus its two senators for a total of 538 electoral votes. A candidate has to get at least 270 to win.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ctoral_College

Edited to add: Yes, plus three for D.C.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:06 PM   #331
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I'm not sure why people think it's so complicated. An Electoral College is just plain ol' common sense if you're retarded.
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
This is just confusing the **** out of me.
....
You're in Australia, right? Are your media giving the U.S. election much coverage?
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:08 PM   #333
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Originally Posted by TahiniBinShawarma View Post
I don't think Biden has a snowball's chance in hell of winning Texas.
Nor I. Although I very much wish to be wrong about that.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:10 PM   #334
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
Sanders would have won this.
Florida?

I'm....not so sure about that.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Meaningless. As I can't (and don't really wish to) keep up with the thread, I shall now go sit in the other room with a glass of red plonk and a bottle of water and read a crappy historical novel on Kindle.
Probably a far better decision than following every tiniest scrap of news. But I can't tear my eyes away from the coverage.

Have a nice read, and enjoy your glass of red .

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My watching or not watching will make not the slightest difference.
Very true.
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Apparently Trump is doing strongly among Cuban Americans in Florida.

Looks like Biden can write off any hope of winning Florida. Nate Silver had a post showing that he was doing slightly better among older voters though. The Cuban American thing is mainly a Florida thing, so it might not mean much when it comes to other states.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:11 PM   #337
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To poke at something quite sigh-worthy -

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BREAKING: USPS fails to meet deadline set by U.S. District Judge Emmet Sullivan to sweep facilities and immediately deliver remaining mail ballots. As of this week, USPS said there were some 300,000 ballots that lacked a delivery scan
Not evenly distributed, either, apparently.

Quote:
Data recently disclosed as part of ongoing lawsuits against the agency show some alarming delivery rates. On 30 October, the agency reported delivering just 72.8% of ballots on time in the Detroit postal district, according to the Washington Post, which could make a big difference in the election.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:12 PM   #338
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So Florida is in the Trump column.

Three to go:

Ohio looking okay so far for Biden with 45% showing.
Georgia uncertain so far
NC war too early
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Bit odd how all the states polls stop at different times.

Personally think people watching the current results might be influenced.
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Old 3rd November 2020, 06:15 PM   #340
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
Bit odd how all the states polls stop at different times.

Personally think people watching the current results might be influenced.
That's another reason why the electoral college sucks
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Sanders would have won this.
You just can't let go, can you?
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You're in Australia, right? Are your media giving the U.S. election much coverage?
It may be worth a reminder that the US is still the most influential country in the world, even after Trump's been working to cripple us on that front - and when we're facing a time that is very strongly reminiscent of the Nazis taking power in Germany, its one of those things that's hard to ignore even if one wants to.
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Apparently Trump is doing strongly among Cuban Americans in Florida.
It's depressing if scare-mongering about "socialism" really has tipped the state.
Elections should be won or lost on facts.
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You're in Australia, right? Are your media giving the U.S. election much coverage?
Lol

Um no.

NZ

And yes. Heaps more than I think is warranted given it is another country.

Interesting though, even if I think it is way over complicated.

Just give it to the dude who gets the most people's votes.

It is easier
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Originally Posted by Puppycow View Post
Apparently Trump is doing strongly among Cuban Americans in Florida.

Looks like Biden can write off any hope of winning Florida. Nate Silver had a post showing that he was doing slightly better among older voters though. The Cuban American thing is mainly a Florida thing, so it might not mean much when it comes to other states.
Some of the Cubans still have a fantasy that they will someday return to Cuba and get their stuff back. They are not the stereotypical Hispanic immigrant.
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If Trump loses, what's the most common headline tomorrow? I'm guessing, "You're Fired!"
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It's depressing if scare-mongering about "socialism" really has tipped the state.
Elections should be won or lost on facts.
Are you saying the Cuban community is too stupid to know what's good for them?
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If Trump loses, what's the most common headline tomorrow? I'm guessing, "You're Fired!"
For sure.
And I'm celebrating with cake.
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Lol

Um no.

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You mean they're not different words for the same place? Like Holland and the Netherlands?
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Some of the Cubans still have a fantasy that they will someday return to Cuba and get their stuff back. They are not the stereotypical Hispanic immigrant.

They're right in line with the Venezuelans I know. I guess they aren't the stereotypical immigrant either because they don't vote the way you think they should.
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If Trump loses, what's the most common headline tomorrow? I'm guessing, "You're Fired!"
Make America less insular and uber nationalistic again!
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You mean they're not different words for the same place? Like Holland and the Netherlands?

Lol

Kind of is tbf, given our relationship.

Just think of it as we are the cooler and more charismatic of the two.
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They're right in line with the Venezuelans I know. I guess they aren't the stereotypical immigrant either because they don't vote the way you think they should.
Not really a question of how they vote. Many Hispanic immigrants came here from poor countries to make a better life for themselves. Many Cuban immigrants were well-educated and prosperous, if not rich, and were running for their lives from Castro, and for a long time they hoped Castro would be overthrown.
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If social media is any indicator, a huge chunk of the Trump base is just tryhard trolls who laugh at "liberal tears" and spam TRUMP 2020 every other minute in the chat.
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If social media is any indicator, a huge chunk of the Trump base is just tryhard trolls who laugh at "liberal tears" and spam TRUMP 2020 every other minute in the chat.
Amateurs. TRUMP 2024 (and forever)!
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This just in! Florida:
Biden 49.XY
Trump 49.YX
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If social media is any indicator, a huge chunk of the Trump base is just tryhard trolls who laugh at "liberal tears" and spam TRUMP 2020 every other minute in the chat.
Nothing new there.
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Originally Posted by cullennz View Post
This is just confusing the **** out of me.

Is the ratio popular votes?

And if so what is the electoral current ratio?

And how do you know how many electoral college votes each state has and which even matter by numbers?
Is this serious?

It's the number of Representatives + Senators each state has. And Washington DC gets 3.

100 Senators
435 Representatives
+ 3 DC
= 538.

There's a good website that might help with that. I can't quite remember the name though...

Can anyone help?
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Virginia was called for Biden but everywhere I look it says Biden 40% Trump 57%
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