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Old 18th May 2017, 10:03 AM   #121
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
There couldn't be any more normal person than Pence. As usual your side is ignoring some key points. This investigation takes the heat off Trump for now, it also will last beyond the mid terms. The reason why and final thing you're missing is this prosecutor can go anywhere, meaning all the things my side wanted investigated is going to be looked at.

Wouldn't it be juicy if this investigation about Trump turns into charges against over zealous Obama goons?
Oh gawd. You got scammed into supporting Trump. He told you what you wanted to hear and you actually thought he would look after Logger. Heavens know why but you and millions of others fell for the same trap. Its time to learn from your mistake and move on. Im sure there is some other short sighted selfish ******** conman you can throw your weight behind, because supporting Trump while he blunders from one crisis to the next, just because he upsets the left is the very definition of the saying "cutting off your nose to spite your face."
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:05 AM   #122
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
One wonders what logger considers "normal".
The South before the Civil Rights Movement.....
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:07 AM   #123
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McCain rejoinder to Trump's Whining:

"I've been treated a lot worse then you have".

That's the McCain I switched party registration to vote for in the primaries in 2000,and who seems to be coming back after an absence.
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:08 AM   #124
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
The South before the Civil Rights Movement.....
I'd say the south about a century before that.
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:09 AM   #125
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
McCain rejoinder to Trump's Whining:

"I've been treated a lot worse then you have".

That's the McCain I switched party registration to vote for in the primaries in 2000,and who seems to be coming back after an absence.
Pfft... it's not like he was belittled by a presidential candidate or anything.
Oh wait....
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:12 AM   #126
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Originally Posted by Hungry81 View Post
Oh gawd. You got scammed into supporting Trump. He told you what you wanted to hear and you actually thought he would look after Logger. Heavens know why but you and millions of others fell for the same trap. Its time to learn from your mistake and move on. Im sure there is some other short sighted selfish ******** conman you can throw your weight behind, because supporting Trump while he blunders from one crisis to the next, just because he upsets the left is the very definition of the saying "cutting off your nose to spite your face."
Scammed? Was I suppose to support hillary? You haven't a clue about politics!
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:13 AM   #127
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
McCain rejoinder to Trump's Whining:

"I've been treated a lot worse then you have".

That's the McCain I switched party registration to vote for in the primaries in 2000,and who seems to be coming back after an absence.
Talk is cheap. McCain has form for talking a good game but running scared when it's time to act.
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:17 AM   #128
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Scammed? Was I suppose to support hillary? You haven't a clue about politics!
LOL

Yes.

I'm 100% certain her policies would more closely align with yours than Trump, seeing as though Trump is 100% for Trump and Trump only.

Enjoy!


HAHAHAHA

Oh, and sorry about Ailes.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:22 AM   #129
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Scammed? Was I suppose to support hillary? You haven't a clue about politics!
No, but at this stage I think a reasonable person could admit she couldn't be worse than Trump.
And perhaps I was a bit harsh. I appreciate that Trump was an experiment from the right, but failed experiments need to be revaluated and discarded if there is no further benefit to them. Trumps a buffoon and he is making America a GREAT laughingstock.
I wouldn't want him negotiating a deal on a 2 dollar trinket at a flea market for me, let alone the fate of my entire country.
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:32 AM   #130
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
I'd say the south about a century before that.
Seconded!

Those horrible slavery scenes in 12 Years a Slave come to mind.
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:36 AM   #131
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Good political move, now all the Trump administration should say is "No comment, there is an active investigation so lets wait for the results of that".
Trumpette Kayliegh McEnany on CNN last night claimed Trump would welcome the appointment. She truly seemed oblivious to the fact Trump is not likely innocent here. No one else at the table was convinced.
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:36 AM   #132
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
McCain rejoinder to Trump's Whining:

"I've been treated a lot worse then you have".

That's the McCain I switched party registration to vote for in the primaries in 2000,and who seems to be coming back after an absence.
McCain's a loser. Winners don't get shot down. Winners have bone spurs and high draft numbers.
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:39 AM   #133
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I agree. But something tells me there is fire behind all the smoke.
If it were anybody but trump, I would say he's acting like he's guilty, but I think Trump is easily dumb enough to try to conduct a coverup of a non-existent crime.
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:44 AM   #134
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Originally Posted by CORed View Post
If it were anybody but trump, I would say he's acting like he's guilty, but I think Trump is easily dumb enough to try to conduct a coverup of a non-existent crime.
I would agree with that.
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:46 AM   #135
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If it were anybody but trump, I would say he's acting like he's guilty, but I think Trump is easily dumb enough to try to conduct a coverup of a non-existent crime.
I don't buy that. Seems like panic.
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:46 AM   #136
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
I don't buy this. Pence is a latecomer to the party. He's the VP. The very definition of Mr. Irrelevant in most administrations. He doesn't seem to ever been part of the inner circle.
He's not getting headlines, doesn't mean he isn't involved.

Rachel Maddow Explains How Mike Pence Is Going To Go Down With Trump For Russia Scandal

Salon: Mike Pence is neck-deep in Donald Trump’s James Comey mess
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Old 18th May 2017, 10:47 AM   #137
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Scammed? Was I suppose to support hillary? You haven't a clue about politics!

Turmoil and chaos are having a party in the White House, so the question is, how did such an uncontrolled party occur despite the many warnings regarding Trump prior to election day that he was unfit to handle the job as President of the United States? Now, they are watching reruns of Watergate in the White House movie room.

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Old 18th May 2017, 10:51 AM   #138
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
I don't buy that. Seems like panic.
Panic is not excluded in the scenario.

Trump's world is so full of lies that he doesn't know what is true and what isn't, so better to cover it up regardless.
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Old 18th May 2017, 11:07 AM   #139
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If it were anybody but trump, I would say he's acting like he's guilty, but I think Trump is easily dumb enough to try to conduct a coverup of a non-existent crime.
That's actually...persuasive.
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I can see Trump trying to coverup a nonexistent crime. Maybe he decides to destroy documents, tamper with witnesses, ect not for any specific reason but because he thinks it is the cautious move. Or maybe he gets super paranoid and decides that unless he takes drastic measures, that he's going be framed by the special prosecutor.
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Old 18th May 2017, 11:26 AM   #141
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I can see Trump trying to coverup a nonexistent crime. Maybe he decides to destroy documents, tamper with witnesses, ect not for any specific reason but because he thinks it is the cautious move. Or maybe he gets super paranoid and decides that unless he takes drastic measures, that he's going be framed by the special prosecutor.
Which, ironically, may get him thrown in jail.
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Old 18th May 2017, 11:41 AM   #142
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And Trump has responded to the latest developments in his usual calm measured way:

Trump: FBI inquiry is 'greatest witch hunt' in history

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US President Donald Trump has lashed out at the decision to appoint a special counsel to oversee the inquiry into Russian influence on his election.
"This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history," he tweeted on Thursday morning.
Of course it's not just a witch hunt, it's the greatest witch hunt....

Quote:
"With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign and the Obama Administration, there was never a special councel [sic] appointed," he tweeted on Thursday.
But I thought Trump like getting stuff no one else got?

Oh and of course a certain William Clinton might dispute the whole 'greatest witch hunt' claim
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Unlikely. Social and political conservatives can be decent people who care for others. I think logger's thinking of something far more extreme.
Care for others in the abstract at least. Having tens of thousands die annually so that they can cut taxes on the rich clearly doesn't make them a bad person. Sacrifices must be made, by other people.
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Care for others in the abstract at least. Having tens of thousands die annually so that they can cut taxes on the rich clearly doesn't make them a bad person. Sacrifices must be made, by other people.
I can certainly see someone being able to make a good pragmatic argument why letting some people die might be "good", but saying that someone like that is "normal" in the modern world is ideological and nothing else.
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Of course it's not just a witch hunt, it's the greatest witch hunt....
Maybe some day he'll be saying 'It was the greatest impeachment in history' and I have a great,... really great cell. Better then any of the other prisoners'.
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Maybe some day he'll be saying 'It was the greatest impeachment in history' and I have a great,... really great cell. Better then any of the other prisoners'.
"It was the greatest impeachment in history and... at the time of the impeachment congress had its lowest ratings. It was dying, you know? Very low talent, low energy. And then it got the highest ratings in years. Years. And now... an inmate told me the other day, I was the best president ever, and I'm the best cellmate ever. Told me this, I couldn't believe it. You couldn't believe how smart these people in here can be, and they can appreciate talent when they see it."
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It's be nice if faster-than-light travel were possible, too.
Or if we all had ponies.

Ponies for everyone!
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Or if we all had ponies.

Ponies for everyone!
Preferably with wings, horns and flashy colours and magical powers.
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First off, Trump won't be impeached this year, if at all. We aren't at Congress calling for impeachment yet. The investigation part will be most of this year, if you include whatever hearings and various other dog-and-pony shows they put together. If it even gets to a discussion of impeachment it'll be timed, oh so coincidentally like the Gowdy commission, for just in time for the mid-terms.

The GOP got Nixon out before the mid-terms. Ford had 2+ years. How'd that turn out for him? And Gerry was a nice affable guy. Pence is that guy with a broomstick up his ass who won't give you back your ball when it goes over the fence into his yard.
I see no way that Pence will ever become an elected President. If or when Trump falls, he will kick and scream and take everyone down with him. Remember: Everybody within his realm ends up diminished.
Even if, in the end, only the 9% conspiracist fringe voters still stick with Trump to blame the evil establishment, those 9% will be missing from Pence's voting potential, and that'll cost him any hypothetical future.
More likely, he will drown in Trump's maelstrom and not even succeed the Don if Don gets the sack.
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I don't buy that. Seems like panic.
I think Trump probably knows why Flynn wants immunity.
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Preferably with wings, horns and flashy colours and magical powers.
And can we have ponies that shoot rainbows out of their butts too?



By the way, I love your new avatar. I have that movie on DVD.
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And can we have ponies that shoot rainbows out of their butts too?



By the way, I love your new avatar. I have that movie on DVD.
I used it back in 2015 but I thought it was cooler than Agamemnon.

For me, Yul's the only really good thing about that flick.
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At lunch with TV anchors, POTUS says appointment of Special Counsel "hurts the country"
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Graham's takeaway from Rosenstein briefing: "You need to treat this investigation as if it may be a criminal investigation."
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If the anchors managed to keep a straight face after he said that, they deserve an Emmy.
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Here's someone who thinks that the appointment of a special counsel will help Trump to conceal important questions. Some of Trump's worst misconduct may not be provably criminal, which is what the SC will focus on.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...owe-it/527187/

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If the anchors managed to keep a straight face after he said that, they deserve an Emmy.
God, that is almost exactly the line of argument that the Nixon Adminsitration took.
Looks as if Trump was not kidding when he said he wanted to be a President just like Nixon...except Nixon has a lot more brains, and actually,until his dark side took over,had a fairly impressive list of acheivements,unlike Trumpy.
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God, that is almost exactly the line of argument that the Nixon Adminsitration took.
Looks as if Trump was not kidding when he said he wanted to be a President just like Nixon...except Nixon has a lot more brains, and actually,until his dark side took over,had a fairly impressive list of acheivements,unlike Trumpy.
Trump told Flynn to, "Stay strong," which is exactly what Nixon told Haldeman IIRC.
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No, but at this stage I think a reasonable person could admit she couldn't be worse than Trump.
And perhaps I was a bit harsh. I appreciate that Trump was an experiment from the right, but failed experiments need to be revaluated and discarded if there is no further benefit to them. Trumps a buffoon and he is making America a GREAT laughingstock.
I wouldn't want him negotiating a deal on a 2 dollar trinket at a flea market for me, let alone the fate of my entire country.
No, you're wrong as usual. Your first clue would be the originalist justice we just got.
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Old 18th May 2017, 01:36 PM   #160
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
Trump told Flynn to, "Stay strong," which is exactly what Nixon told Haldeman IIRC.
not exactly.

On April 30, 1973, Richard Nixon fired his chief of staff, H.R. Haldeman, and called him later that day to say, “But let me say you’re a strong man, goddammit, and I love you.”
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