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Old 14th June 2017, 05:04 AM   #1
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Shooting at GOP Baseball Practice./Gunman targets Republicans

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/06/14...ople-shot.html

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House Majority Whip Steve Scalise and aides were shot at a baseball practice in Virginia Wednesday, Fox News confirmed.
Fox is also reporting the gunman has been shot and killed. Hopefully he's the only fatality.
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:06 AM   #2
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I don't really give a crap if Steve Scalise dies.
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:19 AM   #3
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CBS is reporting it was a charity game with both GOP and Dems.
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In before "it was the libs"
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Originally Posted by Tony Stark View Post
I don't really give a crap if Steve Scalise dies.
Really, you should. America doesnt need an extreme divide where policians become assassination targets. Prior history of such acknowledged.
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:24 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
Really, you should. America doesnt need an extreme divide where policians become assassination targets. Prior history of such acknowledged.
Really interesting to see the mask drop on some members when things like this happen.
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:26 AM   #7
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Really, you should. America doesnt need an extreme divide where policians become assassination targets. Prior history of such acknowledged.
On the other hand it looks like Scalise's mere presence helped save lives.
Rand Paul on MSNBC says Scalise being there likely saved everyone because his presence (he's leadership) meant Capitol Police were there
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:26 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by RussDill View Post
Really interesting to see the mask drop on some members when things like this happen.
I've never pretended that I don't hate Republicans.

Why should I give a crap about his life when he doesn't give a crap about the many Americans that will die if he gets what he wants?
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:29 AM   #9
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Alexandria police are reporting that the shooter is in custody.
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Well, that sure blew the Sessions reports off the news radar.

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I didn't listen to the report, but it was a practice, not a game, and only the GOP members were there. The game is (was) scheduled for tomorrow night.
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:33 AM   #11
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I don't really give a crap if Steve Scalise dies.
Can any of our readers here identify "part of the problem".
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Can any of our readers here identify "part of the problem".
The problem are Republican trash in Congress and the White House.

So what if one of them dies.
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Originally Posted by RussDill View Post
Really interesting to see the mask drop on some members when things like this happen.
??

LOL who was wearing a mask?
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
That seems pretty silly.

We don't even know yet if it was his presence that precipitated the attack in the first place.
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??

LOL who was wearing a mask?
Heh, fortunately, it's right on the avatar, so there should be less confusion. Republican or Democrat, Scalise was elected by the people to represent this country. An attack on any member of congress is an attack on our democracy and constitution.
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:40 AM   #16
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Originally Posted by Tony Stark View Post
I've never pretended that I don't hate Republicans.

Why should I give a crap about his life when he doesn't give a crap about the many Americans that will die if he gets what he wants?
How is this relevant to the thread? You seem to be personalizing the debate with off topics posts.
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:42 AM   #17
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
How is this relevant to the thread? You seem to be personalizing the debate with off topics posts.
It is relevant to why I don't give a crap if that piece of **** dies. And I didn't personalize anything. That would be the poster I responded to.
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:44 AM   #18
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The problem are Republican trash in Congress and the White House.

So what if one of them dies.
Oh, I don't know... maybe it encourages further violence, jeopardising your democracy until what's left is something far less desirable?
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:45 AM   #19
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Oh, I don't know... maybe it encourages further violence, jeopardising your democracy until what's left is something far less desirable?
And if that doesn't happen?
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:46 AM   #20
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The problem are Republican trash in Congress and the White House.

So what if one of them dies.
If the opportunity presented itself, and there was a guarantee of no personal reprecussions, would you kill a politician?
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:46 AM   #21
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It is relevant to why I don't give a crap if that piece of **** dies. And I didn't personalize anything. That would be the poster I responded to.
The first reply in this thread is your personal feelings, which were not the topic. Now you're furthering this personal debate. It's like you set out to deliberately derail this thread and make it about you.
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Old 14th June 2017, 05:47 AM   #22
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
The first reply in this thread is your personal feelings, which were not the topic. Now you're furthering this personal debate. It's like you set out to deliberately derail this thread and make it about you.
Yes, on a message board, one often shares one's personal feelings about an event/topic.

If that was a derail, you're contributing.

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Heh, fortunately, it's right on the avatar, so there should be less confusion. Republican or Democrat, Scalise was elected by the people to represent this country. An attack on any member of congress is an attack on our democracy and constitution.

Actually... he represents the Louisiana First, and has a tendency to cozy up to White Supremacists.
But I still wouldn't advocate a "2nd Amendment solution".

Dial it back a notch Tony... you're the flip side of Skeptic Tank's bigotry.
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I made a dumb joke along similar lines about Trump just after the election that I regret.
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This is not how Republicans should be taken out. They should be eliminated from power politically, not with guns or violence.
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Early reports are not always dependable.

I heard it was Congressmen practicing for an upcoming game.
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I don't really give a crap if Steve Scalise dies.
I've been places where political differences were settled more often than not with gunfire.

I don't ever want that to become the norm here.

Wishing somebody ill will is fine. (My old man would say "I don't wish the man any ill will, I just wish a truck would run over his *********** head.")

Approval of a violent criminal act because you don't agree with the position/status/political persuasion isn't different in any significant fashion from what you've accused the republicans of believing.
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Heh, fortunately, it's right on the avatar, so there should be less confusion. Republican or Democrat, Scalise was elected by the people to represent this country. An attack on any member of congress is an attack on our democracy and constitution.
You're saying that Tony, our upstanding, intelligent and quality poster, has been wearing a mask this whole time that covers up the hate he has for republicans due to their policies, and is only now dropping that facade to show his true colors?


Really?

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I've been places where political differences were settled more often than not with gunfire.

I don't ever want that to become the norm here.

Wishing somebody ill will is fine. (My old man would say "I don't wish the man any ill will, I just wish a truck would run over his *********** head.")

Approval of a violent criminal act because you don't agree with the position/status/political persuasion isn't different in any significant fashion from what you've accused the republicans of believing.
I didn't say that I condone shooting Steve Scalise.

I just don't care if he dies.
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I don't really give a crap if Steve Scalise dies.
This kind of rhetoric benefits absolutely no one. You are making things worse. Cut it out.
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Really, you should. America doesnt need an extreme divide where policians become assassination targets. Prior history of such acknowledged.
But that is the entire point of the second amendment.
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This kind of rhetoric benefits absolutely no one. You are making things worse. Cut it out.
I disagree. It has long been a philosophical question when someone is evil enough that their death is beneficial. Just because the situation is contemporary doesn't immunize us against that conversation.
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Can any of our readers here identify "part of the problem".
And not caring if they kill thousands of americans a year is no big deal as long as they save some of them money. Costing american lives is politically not a big deal, costing americans money is totally beyond the pale.

Of course they are not members of the worthless classes who are supposed to be the ones dying so we are supposed to care if they die.
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Oh, I don't know... maybe it encourages further violence, jeopardising your democracy until what's left is something far less desirable?
How dare you question the wisdom of our founders! Blood of patriots, tree of liberty and all that jazz!
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Since this guy killed Republicans, will they call this a terrorist incident?
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But that is the entire point of the second amendment.
On the bright side, Islamic extremist terror could become less of a concern.
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Since this guy killed Republicans, will they call this a terrorist incident?
Depends on the shooter. If he was shooting them because they were not racist and bigoted enough, then clearly it is just some loney. Because by their nature all terrorists are left wing.
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Since this guy killed Republicans, will they call this a terrorist incident?
Depends what working definition you select, matched for a desired utility.
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And not caring if they kill thousands of americans a year is no big deal as long as they save some of them money. Costing american lives is politically not a big deal, costing americans money is totally beyond the pale.

Of course they are not members of the worthless classes who are supposed to be the ones dying so we are supposed to care if they die.
..saving lives by involuntary taking from others. I'm fine if you want that but you have to state it.
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
Since this guy killed Republicans
Nobody is dead.
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