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Old 21st November 2022, 05:48 PM   #881
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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
I just wonder, did you get some snow over there, New York, you know.
Nope, we didn't get any here.

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
Australia get some water also, you know.

Some Earthquake was also after 2022/11/8 when

Sun, Earth, Moon and Uranus line.

Next time Earth will be activating big way 2022/12/8

Sun, Earth, Moon and Mars line, you know.

Before that Earth is going to be between Mars and Mercury and after that between Mars and Venus.

Lets see what happening after that 2022/12/8 line.

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I expect all that will be happening is just more of your astrology.
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Old 22nd November 2022, 05:43 AM   #882
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Nope, we didn't get any here.



I expect all that will be happening is just more of your astrology.
What is this astrology?

Somebody else write that here 🤔

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Old 22nd November 2022, 07:04 AM   #883
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What is this astrology?

Somebody else write that here 🤔

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It has been written here by others before.

Astrology is the belief that stars, planets and their alignments (or lack there of) have a significant, projective and divinatory impact on the daily lives of people and events in the world.

In short, exactly what you do.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology
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Old 23rd November 2022, 04:59 PM   #884
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It has been scientifically proven that during a full moon, people go to bed later than average and wake up earlier than average.

That is, the alignment of the Sun, Earth and Moon affects people.

This is about having a direct alignment.

The more direct, the bigger the effect.

It is related to the dark energy that the nuclei of atoms circulate among themselves.

Every nucleus of an atom on Earth with every nucleus of an atom on the Moon.

Every nucleus of the Earth's atom with every nucleus of the Sun's atom.

Well, maybe not with the core of every atom in the Sun anyway.

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It has been scientifically proven that during a full moon, people go to bed later than average and wake up earlier than average.
Citation needed.

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That is, the alignment of the Sun, Earth and Moon affects people.
Non sequitur. It could be that people go to bed later during a full moon because there's more light available.

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This is about having a direct alignment.

The more direct, the bigger the effect.

It is related to the dark energy that the nuclei of atoms circulate among themselves.

Every nucleus of an atom on Earth with every nucleus of an atom on the Moon.

Every nucleus of the Earth's atom with every nucleus of the Sun's atom.

Well, maybe not with the core of every atom in the Sun anyway.
All totally non sequitur. Do you have any evidence any of the above is true?

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It is related to the dark energy that the nuclei of atoms circulate among themselves.

Every nucleus of an atom on Earth with every nucleus of an atom on the Moon.

Every nucleus of the Earth's atom with every nucleus of the Sun's atom.

Well, maybe not with the core of every atom in the Sun anyway
So we can add atomic physics as another area that you invent facts about without knowing anything about it.
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Old 24th November 2022, 04:48 AM   #887
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Citation needed.


Non sequitur. It could be that people go to bed later during a full moon because there's more light available.



All totally non sequitur. Do you have any evidence any of the above is true?



FYI, to me these strange smilies really detract from the conversation.
On nights before a full moon, people go to bed later and sleep less, study shows

https://www.washington.edu/news/2021/01/27/moon-sleep/

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Do Moon Phases Affect Your Sleep?

https://www.sleepfoundation.org/how-...s-affect-sleep

"In perhaps the most extensive study on this topic, researchers analyzed sleep patterns9 in three indigenous Argentinian communities and 464 American college students living in a major city. Regardless of location and amount of artificial light exposure, all groups fell asleep later and slept for less time in the week preceding the full moon"

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Does a Full Moon Affect Sleep?

https://www.verywellhealth.com/does-...-sleep-5225033

"Scientists aren’t exactly sure why the moon might impact sleep. The light from the full moon may affect the body’s internal clock and its production of melatonin, a hormone that promotes sleep. Humans may have evolved socially to take advantage of the natural light produced by a full moon before there was access to light with the flick of a switch.

However, research shows that people sleep more poorly during a full moon, even when they’re in a dark room, so the impact of a full moon goes beyond just light exposure.2 A full moon can affect the earth’s magnetic field or gravitational pull, but the connections between these factors and sleep have not been explored."

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During alignments, these dark energy particles / condensations collide with each other's countersphere again and again.

Pushing each other through, they interact and cause the energy in each other to spread out over a larger area of ​​space.

This way, the probability of encountering a similar pushing density / particle increases, etc., etc.

Now there is an imbalance in the Solar System. Alignments with the Sun and gas planets take place in autumn.

This affects small-scale energies and thus e.g. viruses.

In spring, the Earth is not in the region between the Moon and a planet for three weeks at all. Then during five days in the region between the very many planets and the Moon. Also in the area between the Sun and the Moon.

This has cycled spring snowstorms.

Everyone can check this with the help of the Sun Simulator.

On March 18, 2022, temperatures in Antarctica and the North Pole were 30 to 40 degrees Celsius warmer than normal.

Based on this imbalance in the Solar System.

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It has been scientifically proven that during a full moon, people go to bed later than average and wake up earlier than average.

That is, the alignment of the Sun, Earth and Moon affects people.

This is about having a direct alignment.
OK first just by your own quoted citation it's "all groups fell asleep later and slept for less time in the week preceding the full moon". So what you're own quote from your own cited study says is that it wasn't during your actual alignment. The moon can seem full for three nights but is only actually full one night. Your own citation puts their data correlation explicitly during the week before your alignment, so only during the waxing phase.

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The more direct, the bigger the effect.
Nothing you quoted from your citations says that, and one of the things you did quote says it's before your alignment.

Again none of your citations support your astrology.

Isn't your alignment the same during the day as well? How are people who sleep during the day affected?



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It is related to the dark energy that the nuclei of atoms circulate among themselves.

Every nucleus of an atom on Earth with every nucleus of an atom on the Moon.

Every nucleus of the Earth's atom with every nucleus of the Sun's atom.

Well, maybe not with the core of every atom in the Sun anyway.

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Again, please cite any observational evidence for any such 'circulation' between nuclei of any atoms.

Why, "maybe not" with the core or "every atom in the Sun"? How does one distinguish between 'circulation' with no observable evidence and just, well, no such 'circulation? Is just "maybe not" any of that?
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Great Earthquakes and the Astronomical Positions of Uranus

https://www.nature.com/articles/184177a0

"Abstract
THANKS to the excellent collection of uniform data of earthquakes given by Gutenberg and Richter1, it is now easily possible to study statistically the influence of different factors on earthquakes. In the course of a study of tidal effects on earthquakes2, the astronomical positions of the planets have also been taken into account and a remarkable correlation between the positions of Uranus and the moment of great earthquakes has been established for a certain period. Gutenberg and Richter's data of all earthquakes equal or greater than magnitude 7¾ have been used. The investigations will be published in detail later, but here attention is directed to the results concerning the position of Uranus."

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Interesting 🙂

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Great Earthquakes and the Astronomical Positions of Uranus

https://www.nature.com/articles/184177a0

"Abstract
THANKS to the excellent collection of uniform data of earthquakes given by Gutenberg and Richter1, it is now easily possible to study statistically the influence of different factors on earthquakes. In the course of a study of tidal effects on earthquakes2, the astronomical positions of the planets have also been taken into account and a remarkable correlation between the positions of Uranus and the moment of great earthquakes has been established for a certain period. Gutenberg and Richter's data of all earthquakes equal or greater than magnitude 7¾ have been used. The investigations will be published in detail later, but here attention is directed to the results concerning the position of Uranus."

🤔🤔🤔

Interesting 🙂

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No, not very interesting and not related to your astrological musings. As the authors note and you quote "In the course of a study of tidal effects on earthquakes2". Heck, tidal heating even accounts for the geothermal and volcanic activity on Jupiter's moons
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Great Earthquakes and the Astronomical Positions of Uranus

https://www.nature.com/articles/184177a0

"Abstract
THANKS to the excellent collection of uniform data of earthquakes given by Gutenberg and Richter1, it is now easily possible to study statistically the influence of different factors on earthquakes. In the course of a study of tidal effects on earthquakes2, the astronomical positions of the planets have also been taken into account and a remarkable correlation between the positions of Uranus and the moment of great earthquakes has been established for a certain period. Gutenberg and Richter's data of all earthquakes equal or greater than magnitude 7¾ have been used. The investigations will be published in detail later, but here attention is directed to the results concerning the position of Uranus."

🤔🤔🤔

Interesting 🙂

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You cite just as well as you do experiments.

Your original link/article is dated 1959.

From here: https://www.nature.com/articles/186336b0
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Earthquakes and Uranus: Misuse of a Statistical Test of Significance
E. J. BURR
Nature volume 186, pages336–337 (1960)Cite this article

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THERE are always a large number of persons engaged in searching for correlations between pairs of variables, most of which are, in fact, uncorrelated. From the way in which statistical tests of significance are constructed, we know that in the cases in which no correlation exists the search will be spuriously rewarded, on the average once in every hundred tests, by a result significant at the 1 per cent level. When interpreting a published result significant at this level, it is necessary to make allowance for the possible existence of ninety-nine other results which were not published because they were not significant.
My article cites your article.
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My english is not enough good for this.

So, i just put that here

Greatest Earthquake and the Uranus Cycle

https://youtu.be/7k-8LX63XSs

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New Theory of Effusive and Explosive Volcanic Eruptions

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In this study, we presented new theory of effusive and explosive of volcanic eruptions. New explanation of eruption mechanisms was done by using the Elemental Buoyancy Theory and new K-Th-U structure of Earth, developed early by author. During investigation of effusive eruptions, it was given clear answer on the question why the light chemical elements, mainly silicon and sulfur compound, currently dominate in the volcanic ashes, gases, and in the magma lavas. At investigation of explosive mechanism, we analyzed 38 strong eruptions with Volcanic Explosivity Index (VEI) more than 4+. It was shown that there is a link between the planet configurations and volcanic eruptions. It can be found that volcano eruptions occurred at the different types of planet alignments. The phenomenon does depend neither on planet mass nor on the relative positions of planets. Also the phenomenon does not depend on the distance between planets, but often eruptions were observed when the distances between planets are multiple units. Also in work, it was demonstrated that the planet alignment affects not only natural processes on the Earth, but also impact the Sun activity. Based on the comparison phenomenon on the Earth and Sun, we get new mechanism to rapidly rising up pressure under the lithospheric planes by gravity vortexes. This gravity vortex was called as terrestrial magmatic protuberances."

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperi...paperid=115540

"4.1. Four Climatic Significant Explosive Eruptions

As it is known, one of climatic significant eruptions is the 1991 eruption of the volcano of Mount Pinatubo. During this eruption, so much volcanic ash was emitted in a stratosphere that it cooled the Earth’s surface for the next 3 years. Other examples are the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens volcano and El Chichón volcano eruptions in 1982. Data on the most famous volcanoes in climatology such as Tambora (1815), St. Helen (1980), El Chichón (1982) and Mt. Pinatubo (1991) can be found for example in [20] - [25], and in the many other references. Studying the climate changes caused by these eruptions, attention was drawn to the unusual location of the planets at the time of powerful explosive eruptions.

Thus St. Helens and Pinatubo eruptions occurred at times when there were linear configurations of planets (Figure 3). The Saturn-Mars-Venus alignment was recorded at the St. Helen eruption (Figure 3(a)) and Jupite-Mars-Venus-Earth alignment has placed at the Pinatubo eruption (Figure 3(b)). In the figures the acute angle between the directions to the planets is specified in degrees, so the angle between the straight lines Saturn-Mars and Saturn-Venus at St. Helens eruption, 1980 is equal to 0.68˚. For convenience, in this study all figures are presented in shape of 2D-geometry, with projection in the planetary plane. In select projection the planes rotate around Sun in CCW counter clockwise (CCW) direction.

Figure 3. The climatic significant eruptions: (a)—St. Helen (1980), VEI = 5, with the Saturn-Mars-Venus alignment; (b)—Pinatubo eruption (1991), VEI = 6, with the 4-planet Jupiter-Mars-Venus-Earth alignment. The alignment angles were presented in additional.

Two other strong climatic significant eruptions eruption of El Chichón volcano were presented in Figure 4. The El Chichón volcano erupted in March 1982 with VEI = 4+ at the Saturn-Mars-Earth alignment (Figure 2(a)) and later erupted in April 1982 with VEI = 5 at the Saturn-Mars-Earth and Jupiter-Venus-Mercury alignments.

The question is can these apparent correlations arise by chance or is there some underlying physical phenomenon that is involved? To found answer to this question we investigated major explosive eruptions with VEI > 4+, which took place in period 1600-2020 years. However even from Figure 3 and Figure 4 it is

Figure 4. Two eruptions of El Chichón volcano: (a)—El Chichón eruption in March 1982, VEI = 4+ at the Saturn-Mars-Earth alignment; (b)—El Chichón eruption in April 1982, VEI = 5 at the Saturn-Mars-Earth and Jupiter-Venus-Mercury alignments.

clearly see that it is not Jupiter tidal effect. But then it is possible to come out with the assumption that at these eruptions we deal with the wave gravity process which is known as Kepler conjunction or Pythagoras-Plato waves (see Discussions)."


Yes, this is very very interesting 🙂

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My english is not enough good for this.

So, i just put that here

Greatest Earthquake and the Uranus Cycle

https://youtu.be/7k-8LX63XSs

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New Theory of Effusive and Explosive Volcanic Eruptions

"Abstract

In this study, we presented new theory of effusive and explosive of volcanic eruptions. New explanation of eruption mechanisms was done by using the Elemental Buoyancy Theory and new K-Th-U structure of Earth, developed early by author. During investigation of effusive eruptions, it was given clear answer on the question why the light chemical elements, mainly silicon and sulfur compound, currently dominate in the volcanic ashes, gases, and in the magma lavas. At investigation of explosive mechanism, we analyzed 38 strong eruptions with Volcanic Explosivity Index (VEI) more than 4+. It was shown that there is a link between the planet configurations and volcanic eruptions. It can be found that volcano eruptions occurred at the different types of planet alignments. The phenomenon does depend neither on planet mass nor on the relative positions of planets. Also the phenomenon does not depend on the distance between planets, but often eruptions were observed when the distances between planets are multiple units. Also in work, it was demonstrated that the planet alignment affects not only natural processes on the Earth, but also impact the Sun activity. Based on the comparison phenomenon on the Earth and Sun, we get new mechanism to rapidly rising up pressure under the lithospheric planes by gravity vortexes. This gravity vortex was called as terrestrial magmatic protuberances."

https://www.scirp.org/journal/paperi...paperid=115540

"4.1. Four Climatic Significant Explosive Eruptions

As it is known, one of climatic significant eruptions is the 1991 eruption of the volcano of Mount Pinatubo. During this eruption, so much volcanic ash was emitted in a stratosphere that it cooled the Earth’s surface for the next 3 years. Other examples are the 1980 eruption of Mount St. Helens volcano and El Chichón volcano eruptions in 1982. Data on the most famous volcanoes in climatology such as Tambora (1815), St. Helen (1980), El Chichón (1982) and Mt. Pinatubo (1991) can be found for example in [20] - [25], and in the many other references. Studying the climate changes caused by these eruptions, attention was drawn to the unusual location of the planets at the time of powerful explosive eruptions.

Thus St. Helens and Pinatubo eruptions occurred at times when there were linear configurations of planets (Figure 3). The Saturn-Mars-Venus alignment was recorded at the St. Helen eruption (Figure 3(a)) and Jupite-Mars-Venus-Earth alignment has placed at the Pinatubo eruption (Figure 3(b)). In the figures the acute angle between the directions to the planets is specified in degrees, so the angle between the straight lines Saturn-Mars and Saturn-Venus at St. Helens eruption, 1980 is equal to 0.68˚. For convenience, in this study all figures are presented in shape of 2D-geometry, with projection in the planetary plane. In select projection the planes rotate around Sun in CCW counter clockwise (CCW) direction.

Figure 3. The climatic significant eruptions: (a)—St. Helen (1980), VEI = 5, with the Saturn-Mars-Venus alignment; (b)—Pinatubo eruption (1991), VEI = 6, with the 4-planet Jupiter-Mars-Venus-Earth alignment. The alignment angles were presented in additional.

Two other strong climatic significant eruptions eruption of El Chichón volcano were presented in Figure 4. The El Chichón volcano erupted in March 1982 with VEI = 4+ at the Saturn-Mars-Earth alignment (Figure 2(a)) and later erupted in April 1982 with VEI = 5 at the Saturn-Mars-Earth and Jupiter-Venus-Mercury alignments.

The question is can these apparent correlations arise by chance or is there some underlying physical phenomenon that is involved? To found answer to this question we investigated major explosive eruptions with VEI > 4+, which took place in period 1600-2020 years. However even from Figure 3 and Figure 4 it is

Figure 4. Two eruptions of El Chichón volcano: (a)—El Chichón eruption in March 1982, VEI = 4+ at the Saturn-Mars-Earth alignment; (b)—El Chichón eruption in April 1982, VEI = 5 at the Saturn-Mars-Earth and Jupiter-Venus-Mercury alignments.

clearly see that it is not Jupiter tidal effect. But then it is possible to come out with the assumption that at these eruptions we deal with the wave gravity process which is known as Kepler conjunction or Pythagoras-Plato waves (see Discussions)."


Yes, this is very very interesting 🙂

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Nope, as far as spurious correlations go it is far, far, far more interesting that the number of people who drown by falling into a pool correlates with the number of films Nicolas Cage appeared in.


https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious-correlations

Heck, with all the eruptions and earthquakes that occur along with all the alignments and positions the planets can take what would have been "very very interesting" (and probably downright impossible) would be if there were no correlations at all.
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If that dude just read what i write 🙂

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Yes, this channel mide fly later high.

If that dude just read what i write 🙂

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We've all read what you wrote and I for one have no interest in your you tube (or especially youtu.be) links.
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Hawaii volcano, world's largest, erupts for first time in decades

https://phys.org/news/2022-11-hawaii...st-erupts.html

Yes, it was this

2022/8/12 Sun, Earth, Moon and Saturn

2022/9/10 Full Moon

2022/9/17 Sun, Earth and Neptunus

2022/9/26 Sun, Moon, Earth and Jupiter

2022/10/9 Full Moon

2022/11/8 Sun, Earth, Moon and Uranus

And now we have lot of activity with Volcano and Earth Quakes. Heavy rain and heavy snow storms etc etc.

Now Earth is between Mars and Mercury.

December first days between Mars and Venus.

2022/12/8 Sun, Earth, Moon and Mars.

Line is straight. More straight what last 60 years. I check 60 years and i did not found that straight line with Sun, Earth, Moon and Mars.

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Hawaii volcano, world's largest, erupts for first time in decades

https://phys.org/news/2022-11-hawaii...st-erupts.html

Yes, it was this

2022/8/12 Sun, Earth, Moon and Saturn

2022/9/10 Full Moon

2022/9/17 Sun, Earth and Neptunus

2022/9/26 Sun, Moon, Earth and Jupiter

2022/10/9 Full Moon

2022/11/8 Sun, Earth, Moon and Uranus
Was which "this"? You've got 6 things there spanning 4 months.

I'll see your months and raise you years, from your own linked article.

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Mauna Loa has been showing signs of building to an eruption for years, according to the USGS, which said the ongoing eruption was visible from Kona, a town on the west coast of Hawaii's main island some 45 miles (72 kilometers) from the volcano.

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And now we have lot of activity with Volcano and Earth Quakes. Heavy rain and heavy snow storms etc etc.

Now Earth is between Mars and Mercury.

December first days between Mars and Venus.

2022/12/8 Sun, Earth, Moon and Mars.

Line is straight. More straight what last 60 years. I check 60 years and i did not found that straight line with Sun, Earth, Moon and Mars.

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And now just as before, correlation doesn't mean causation. Your Texas Sharpshooter astrology just doesn't cut it, even just compared to more common astrology. Least that's got some pizzazz and positivity to it. It seems all you claim your astrology does is just trash the place.



https://www.astrology.com/article/no...logy-forecast/.
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Pixie of Key, when you can use your system to consistently predict at least a week in advance that a hurricane (or typhoon) will hit a given US state or small country, or a certain volcano will erupt, or that a heat dome or intense cold snap will hit an area of the world, you'll have something interesting. Until then all you're doing is having a bit of harmless fun. (I originally said "wasting your time," but that can be used to describe most hobbies! )
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I have figured out how the universe works

I know that the current atomic model describes the universe completely incorrectly.

With the help of supercomputers, predictions will later become much more precise.

I have predicted that with the James Webb telescope it will be observed that galaxies were born from the inside / center outwards quickly.

It has already been observed that there are many more ready-made galaxies in the young observable universe than your faulty theories predicted.

Einstein opened Pandora's box when he grabbed the concept of curved space from his hat.

Curved space is the naked emperor.

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I have figured out how the universe works
I hate to tell you this, but far more brilliant minds than yours have spent the last century trying to figure out how the universe works, with limited success.

For more information, look up "Dunning-Kruger effect."
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I hate to tell you this, but far more brilliant minds than yours have spent the last century trying to figure out how the universe works, with limited success.

For more information, look up "Dunning-Kruger effect."
Dont Worry, be happy 🙂

This is just too much for you 🙂

Curving space is just like antique gods.

It is naked emperor.

Only losers explain phenomenas with hocus pocus space.

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Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
I have figured out how the universe works
You have yet to demonstrate that you even know how just a rope works.

So, have you actually tried that rope experiment as described yet?


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I know that the current atomic model describes the universe completely incorrectly.
Could it be that the "current atomic model describes", well, atoms?

Exactly how well the "current atomic model describes" atoms is exemplified in the device(s) you use to post on this thread.

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With the help of supercomputers, predictions will later become much more precise.
Let's hope so, because even your current post-dictions are pretty crappy.

When are you planning on getting your supercomputers to actually start making predictions?

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I have predicted that with the James Webb telescope it will be observed that galaxies were born from the inside / center outwards quickly.
Which has not been observed, modeled or even theorized. So exactly what data from the James Webb telescope would support your unobserved, unmodeled and untheorized speculations?

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It has already been observed that there are many more ready-made galaxies in the young observable universe than your faulty theories predicted.
Exactly how many did your lack of any theory predict?

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Einstein opened Pandora's box when he grabbed the concept of curved space from his hat.

Curved space is the naked emperor.

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Once again, you live on a curved space, the surface of the Earth. While a 3+1 dimensional space-time curvature has other significate implications the concept of a non-Euclidian space remains the same and predates both Einstein and general relativity by 50 to 100 years, respectively.
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Only losers explain phenomenas with hocus pocus space.
Well, you are trying to explain phenomena with Hokuspokus physics, and it doesn’t even work, whereas the “losers” are able to send probes to all the planets, and even hit a fast asteroid with a projectile, all using the kind of physics that actually works.
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Well, you are trying to explain phenomena with Hokuspokus physics, and it doesn’t even work, whereas the “losers” are able to send probes to all the planets, and even hit a fast asteroid with a projectile, all using the kind of physics that actually works.
Nope.

I dont explain with physics or with mathematics.

I explain with word and also visually way

You cant do that if you try to explain what is curving space or what is expanding space 🙂

Or maybe you can 🤔

Can you even try 🙂

No, you cant 🙂

I know that already 🙂

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Nope.

I dont explain with physics or with mathematics.
Hence your difficulty in actually explaining anything.


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I explain with word and also visually way
No you don't, you just make patently false and often self-contradictory assertions. All that explains is that you don't have a clue even just about your own notions and their implications. Again, you're not the first person to come up with this everything is expanding notion, even just on this forum. However, you certainly do present poorest exemplar of that notion that I've ever seen.

Originally Posted by Pixie of key View Post
You cant do that if you try to explain what is curving space or what is expanding space ��

Or maybe you can ��

Can you even try ��

No, you cant ��

I know that already ��

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What the heck are you talking about? People have been explaining curved space-time and the metric expansion of space for laymen that way for decades. The rubber sheet and balloon analogies spring immediately to mind. Got to be about forty to fifty years since I first saw them. As usual what you "know" "already" is just trivially and demonstrably false.
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Hence your difficulty in actually explaining anything.




No you don't, you just make patently false and often self-contradictory assertions. All that explains is that you don't have a clue even just about your own notions and their implications. Again, you're not the first person to come up with this everything is expanding notion, even just on this forum. However, you certainly do present poorest exemplar of that notion that I've ever seen.



What the heck are you talking about? People have been explaining curved space-time and the metric expansion of space for laymen that way for decades. The rubber sheet and balloon analogies spring immediately to mind. Got to be about forty to fifty years since I first saw them. As usual what you "know" "already" is just trivially and demonstrably false.
Your analogies are mind-bending tricks.

What if we put a ball on a rubber film and ask a physicist why the film bends a lot.

You answer because the Earth curves space.

Now, when we ask you to describe this curvature of space, will you take that ball off the rubber sheet and then put it back and start explaining sela sela sela.

Curved space is the naked emperor.

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Your analogies are mind-bending tricks.
Fantastic, so now you do know that people have made such visual explanations. Though I expect you already knew that even when you claimed

"No, you cant ��

I know that already ��"

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What if we put a ball on a rubber film and ask a physicist why the film bends a lot.

You answer because the Earth curves space.
Look at one of those visual explanations and find out. Again the bending of the film is suppose to be an analogous visual representation of the curvature of space-time.

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Now, when we ask you to describe this curvature of space, will you take that ball off the rubber sheet and then put it back and start explaining sela sela sela.

Curved space is the naked emperor.

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What, why would "you take that ball off the rubber sheet", when that is the very explanatory visual analogy you were seeking? Something you claimed you knew couldn't be done but has been done for decades and indications now seem that what you already knew was that such things could be and have been done.
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ball with a rubber membrane does not say anything about curved space.

Put the smaller ball on the rubber film to go around the bigger one and think about what force causes the smaller ball to bend into a curve so that it goes around the bigger one.

Yes, that's right. Pushing force. The only real force.

The rubber membrane applies a pushing force to the balls and the pushing force causes the smaller trajectory to bend and thus it rotates around the larger ball, which presses with its pushing force on the rubber membrane.

The question is. Where does the example told with a rubber film say anything about the curvature of space?

Yeah, nowhere.

Curved space is the naked emperor.

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Fantastic, so now you do know that people have made such visual explanations. Though I expect you already knew that even when you claimed

"No, you cant ��

I know that already ��"



Look at one of those visual explanations and find out. Again the bending of the film is suppose to be an analogous visual representation of the curvature of space-time.



What, why would "you take that ball off the rubber sheet", when that is the very explanatory visual analogy you were seeking? Something you claimed you knew couldn't be done but has been done for decades and indications now seem that what you already knew was that such things could be and have been done.
So, I'll put the ball on the rubber film first and then I'll ask the physicists and you. Why does the rubber film bend in such a way that a hole is formed?

What do you answer the question?

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So, I'll put the ball on the rubber film first and then I'll ask the physicists and you. Why does the rubber film bend in such a way that a hole is formed?

What do you answer the question?

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Well technically a hole is not formed in the sheet or film, it just gets indented. The physical explanation, which is what you said you weren't doing, is that energy, stress and strain applied by the ball to the film deform the film. Analogous to the way the stress energy tensor determines how space-time is deformed.
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I did not write hole with my mother language. I just thinking, that you get the point, even google translation do not work right way. Put you did not.


Does space-time consist of separate parts that move relative to each other?

If so, where do these separate parts move relative to each other?

When the rubber film bends, the individual atomic nuclei of the rubber film move relative to each other and that movement takes place in space.

If space-time does not consist of separate parts that move in relation to each other, then what allows space to curve?

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I did not write hole with my mother language. I just thinking, that you get the point, even google translation do not work right way. Put you did not.


Does space-time consist of separate parts that move relative to each other?
Space-time consists of locations, generally referred to as coordinates and yes coordinate values are frame dependent. So where locations are relative to each other depends on your frame of reference.

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If so, where do these separate parts move relative to each other?
As you just noted yourself, changes in coordinate values would be "relative to each other". How those values directly relate to each other is referred to as the metric of a space or the topology of a space. 'Space' in this context refers to a mathematical or geometrical space or set. Of which physical space-time would fall under, as I believe the well ordered type.

Exactly how do you determine where something or somewhere is, unless relative to something or somewhere else?


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When the rubber film bends, the individual atomic nuclei of the rubber film move relative to each other and that movement takes place in space.

If space-time does not consist of separate parts that move in relation to each other, then what allows space to curve?

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Well, don't forget that visual explanation is only analogues.

What prevents space-time from curving regardless of what it consists of? That is, other than you simply asserting it to be precluded?
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Hilarious.

The nuclei of atoms move in relation to each other and that movement takes place in space.

You claim that this space, where the nuclei of atoms move relative to each other, also consists of separate parts that move relative to each other.

Do these separate parts of space move somewhere behind the curved space? Some background space where curving space can curve?

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Space-time consists of locations, generally referred to as coordinates and yes coordinate values are frame dependent. So where locations are relative to each other depends on your frame of reference.
Actually, spacetime consists of a manifold that is independent of the coordinates/frames/whatever that people prefer to use. More precisely, spacetime is a special kind of differentiable manifold known as a pseudo-Riemannian manifold.

The fact that spacetime is a differentiable manifold means you can do calculus with it, but that calculus is complicated because spacetime is not the simple 3-dimensional Euclidean space that's familiar to most scientists and engineers. Consider, for example, the Einstein field equations, which are ten differential equations that describe precisely how the curvature of spacetime is related to the presence of matter and energy:
Rμν - ½ R gμν + Λ gμν = κ Tμν
where
  • Rμν is the Ricci curvature tensor, which is related to the more general Riemann curvature tensor (whose greater generality is not needed by Einstein's equations)
  • R (with no subscripts) is the Ricci scalar, which is analogous to and a sort of generalization of Gaussian curvature
  • gμν is the fundamental metric tensor that (when integrated along a path between two events) tells you the spacetime interval along that path
  • Λ is the cosmological constant
  • (ETA) Tμν is the stress-energy tensor, which describes the presence of matter and energy
  • κ = 8πG/(c4)
  • G is the Newtonian constant of gravitation
  • c is the speed of light
The tensors are themselves geometrical objects that exist independently of any coordinates you might use to give a quantitative description of them. As suggested by the two subscripts μ and ν, each ranging over the values 0, 1, 2, 3, the quantitative effect of each tensor at any given point (because they are actually tensor fields, not just single tensors) can be described by a 4x4 matrix of 16 real numbers (of which only 10 are independent, because the matrix is required to be symmetrical) whose values depend upon the coordinate system you prefer to use in the vicinity of that point.

Although it might be fun to continue this exposition, the facts related above are sufficient to explain why Pixie of key chooses to "explain with word and also visually way" rather than "explain with physics or with mathematics."

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Just like this.

The expansion of space cannot be described in words, nor visually.

Expanding space is a similar concept to what the gods of ancient times were.

You can only believe in its existence.

The existence of gods cannot be proved with the help of mathematical formulas.

Mathematical formulas do not say anything about what could enable the expansion of space in general.

Or what the expansion of space is based on.

Curved space is also a hoot / the emperor naked
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Although it might be fun to continue this exposition, the facts related above are sufficient to explain why Pixie of key chooses to "explain with word and also visually way" rather than "explain with physics or with mathematics."

Speaking of fun, many people enjoy visuals based upon computer graphics, which is a technology founded upon geometry. The prerequisites for a standard college course in computer graphics include linear algebra, because "the translation, rotation and scaling of 2D or 3D objects is performed" by linear transformations.

The tensors that appear in Einstein's field equations are multilinear forms (aka multilinear functions), which are a special case of multilinear forms, of which linear transformations are another special case. So the tensors of general relativity are closely related to the linear algebra used in computer graphics.

In this thread, Pixie of key is helping us to visualize the following fact:
People who don't understand the visual connection between three-dimensional Euclidean geometry and basic linear algebra will have a hard time visualizing the connections between 4-dimensional pseudo-Riemannian geometry and tensor algebra.
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Heh heh ��

The extra spatial dimensions are the emperor naked.

And I'm a child who screams!!!
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The emperor is naked!!!

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The expansion of space cannot be described in words, nor visually.

Expanding space is a similar concept to what the gods of ancient times were.

You can only believe in its existence.
Nope, we know that spacetime is curved because we can prove it.

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The existence of gods cannot be proved with the help of mathematical formulas.
At last you say something that I can agree with. In fact, you can’t prove the existence of gods at all!

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Mathematical formulas do not say anything about what could enable the expansion of space in general.

Or what the expansion of space is based on.
Science is not giving answers to “why”, only to “how”.

And I note that your theory can answer neither “how”, nor “why”. It fails spectacularly!

It is a hoot!
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