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Old 13th January 2020, 11:40 AM   #1
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General type of program that Adobe Illustrator is one of

With most program types, I know what to call the whole type, not just the specific individual name(s) of one or more examples of the type. For example...

Firefox, Explorer, Edge, Chrome, Safari: web browsers

Thunderbird, Outlook: email & business administration

Word, WordPerfect: word processors

Excel: spreadsheet
Axxess: database
Lotus 1-2-3: either spreadsheet or database; my memories of it are vague now

Paint, GNU, PhotoShop, PhotoStudio: image editors

(I can also distinguish between a 3d modeller and a 3d renderer, although I've forgotten most of the names I learned when I first dabbled in that ages ago.)



So, what would go after after the colon after "Illustrator"? "Drafting" occurs to me as a possible description of its function, but I can also imagine that word being reserved for the software used by pro engineers designing real things, not just putting text & graphics together for an image/illustration. I can also imagine it being bundled under "image editors", possibly with the adjective "vector" thrown in to distinguish it from the raster focus of conventional image editors, but I don't think I've ever seen that kind of terminology in use.

Also, whatever you call the general type, what would be some other examples of it?
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Old 13th January 2020, 11:45 AM   #2
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Hmmm...

Firefox, Explorer, Edge, Chrome, Safari: web browsers
Web browsers, check.

Thunderbird, Outlook: email & business administration
Fixed that for you. SAP and Quickbooks are examples of business administration software.

Not going to quibble with the rest.

According to Wikipedia, Illustrator is a (vector) graphics editor.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Illustrator
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Old 13th January 2020, 11:46 AM   #3
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"Vector Graphics Editor"

See also many other Adobe Products, GIMP, CorelDraw, Inkscape, Microsoft Visio, etc.

As compared to a "Bitmap/Raster Graphics Editor" like MS Paint. (Although overlap where many modern software image editors act as both and the distinction is a little less important is now a thing)
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Old 13th January 2020, 01:00 PM   #4
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Grrrghck... wrong forum...
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Old 13th January 2020, 01:29 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by Delvo View Post
Axxess: database
Access.

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Lotus 1-2-3: either spreadsheet or database; my memories of it are vague now
Lotus 1-2-3 was a spreadsheet program, but Lotus thought it was a good idea to also include some database functionality... which has been included in every other spreadsheet program ever since.

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So, what would go after after the colon after "Illustrator"?
Vector graphics editor or "drawing program" (as opposed to a pixel graphics editor or "painting program").
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Old 13th January 2020, 01:30 PM   #6
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What they said. It's a Vector graphics program. Advantage: Resolution independent. Disadvantage: Burns a lot of processor resource.
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Old 13th January 2020, 01:34 PM   #7
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Yeah, what everyone else said. Your "image editor" category is a superset, it can be broken down in to many ways that images can be represented.
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Old 13th January 2020, 01:38 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by Delvo View Post
Grrrghck... wrong forum...
Protip: Use the Report function to tell the forum staff that it's in the wrong forum, and to ask them to move it. Use the Post function to acknowledge and respond to the other members who have gotten involved in your discussion.
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Old 13th January 2020, 02:01 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Delvo View Post
With most program types, I know what to call the whole type, not just the specific individual name(s) of one or more examples of the type. For example...

Firefox, Explorer, Edge, Chrome, Safari: web browsers

Thunderbird, Outlook: email & business administration

Word, WordPerfect: word processors

Excel: spreadsheet
Axxess: database
Lotus 1-2-3: either spreadsheet or database; my memories of it are vague now

Paint, GNU, PhotoShop, PhotoStudio: image editors

(I can also distinguish between a 3d modeller and a 3d renderer, although I've forgotten most of the names I learned when I first dabbled in that ages ago.)



So, what would go after after the colon after "Illustrator"? "Drafting" occurs to me as a possible description of its function, but I can also imagine that word being reserved for the software used by pro engineers designing real things, not just putting text & graphics together for an image/illustration. I can also imagine it being bundled under "image editors", possibly with the adjective "vector" thrown in to distinguish it from the raster focus of conventional image editors, but I don't think I've ever seen that kind of terminology in use.

Also, whatever you call the general type, what would be some other examples of it?

Illustrator is in the awesome category, where as, something like Word is in the lame* category.


*not to be confused with the LAME Mp3 encoder. Just lame.
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Originally Posted by Elagabalus View Post
Illustrator is in the awesome category, where as, something like Word is in the lame* category.


*not to be confused with the LAME Mp3 encoder. Just lame.
Illustrator has had some spectacularly lame releases.
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Originally Posted by Earthborn View Post
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Lotus 1-2-3 was a spreadsheet program, but Lotus thought it was a good idea to also include some database functionality... which has been included in every other spreadsheet program ever since.

Vector graphics editor or "drawing program" (as opposed to a pixel graphics editor or "painting program").
I've used CorelDRAW! daily for over a quarter of a century, and I regularly describe it as a "drawing program". It's short, sweet, and concise.
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Old 13th January 2020, 02:56 PM   #12
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Although there is a tendency for Vector Graphic programs to be more complicated on average then Raster Graphic programs it's not like an inherent law or anything.

Simple Vector Graphic and complicated, indepth Raster Graphic programs exist.
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With AI to pull out faces, separate and cut cleanly objects, understand the scene and 3D it, and most recently sharpen due to analysis of millions of images (where they can find close approximations of sharper segments that are blurry in your image and substitute the sharper portion) raster isn't your grandpa's Paint anymore.

Basically the idiotic sci fi "zoom in and enhance" is a real thing now.
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Old 14th January 2020, 06:40 AM   #14
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Adobe Illustrator is a vector graphics program.

The best alternative (without a subscription model) is Affinity Designer.
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Also Inkscape which is free. Not my area of expertise but I used it to design a team logo and it worked after a short tutorial I found.
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Originally Posted by elgarak View Post
Adobe Illustrator is a vector graphics program.

The best alternative (without a subscription model) is Affinity Designer.
I've actually stopped my Adobe subscription (the photography sub, Photoshop, Lightroom etc) and use the Affinity products now. Not quite as good as Photoshop in some areas but more than good enough for what I need. And their iPad version is fantastic on my iPad Pro.

The two reasons I dropped the Adobe sub was 1) Affinity being good enough and it's a cheap one off payment and 2) hate how much of the Adobe stuff ties into their cloud services, and pretty much forced to have to be online all the time to fully use the Adobe products.
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Originally Posted by elgarak View Post
(without a subscription model)
The subscription is indeed the main reason I'm looking elsewhere.
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The subscription is indeed the main reason I'm looking elsewhere.
Good luck. "Open Source" and "Rent to Own" are going to be the premier software models going forth.
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