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Old 22nd February 2018, 05:49 PM   #1
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Missouri Governer indicted for felony invasion of privacy

Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens indicted on felony invasion of privacy charge stemming from affair

tl;dr: Prior to being elected, Greitens had an affair with married woman took a picture of her naked, to which she did not consent. He admits he took the photo but denies he blackmailed her during the campaign to keep her silence about the affair.

Problem is, in Missouri, blackmail isn't against the law. Taking the photograph, however, is. Oops.
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Originally Posted by Upchurch View Post
Problem is, in Missouri, blackmail isn't against the law.
I did not know this.

Now I know what I'm doing this weekend!
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Old 22nd February 2018, 06:03 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I did not know this.

Now I know what I'm doing this weekend!
He is/was the Education Governor.
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Old 22nd February 2018, 06:30 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Upchurch View Post
Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens indicted on felony invasion of privacy charge stemming from affair

tl;dr: Prior to being elected, Greitens had an affair with married woman took a picture of her naked, to which she did not consent. He admits he took the photo but denies he blackmailed her during the campaign to keep her silence about the affair.

Problem is, in Missouri, blackmail isn't against the law. Taking the photograph, however, is. Oops.
Whats the word on the street?
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Old 22nd February 2018, 06:37 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
I did not know this.

Now I know what I'm doing this weekend!
You might want to hold off. Here's an article quoting a couple of Missouri attorneys on the matter:
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/g...f492796e8.html
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For a moment I thought the headline read "piracy" instead of "privacy". That would be so COOL!!!
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Originally Posted by shemp View Post
For a moment I thought the headline read "piracy" instead of "privacy". That would be so COOL!!!
It likely has something to do with the conspicuous absence of any high seas in the state of Missouri.
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It likely has something to do with the conspicuous absence of any high seas in the state of Missouri.
Never heard of the legendary river pirates on the Mississippi? True, they were largely wiped out by 1800, but they were a thing.
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Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
It likely has something to do with the conspicuous absence of any high seas in the state of Missouri.
Global warming will take care of that.
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It likely has something to do with the conspicuous absence of any high seas in the state of Missouri.
Surely river piracy on the mighty Missouri River is as feasible now as it was in early days, when
River pirate gangs ... plied the river and waited in ambush for honest flat boaters as they traveled the Ohio, Missouri, and Mississippi Rivers.
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Old 23rd February 2018, 05:07 AM   #11
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Originally Posted by Upchurch View Post
Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens indicted on felony invasion of privacy charge stemming from affair

tl;dr: Prior to being elected, Greitens had an affair with married woman took a picture of her naked, to which she did not consent. He admits he took the photo but denies he blackmailed her during the campaign to keep her silence about the affair.

Problem is, in Missouri, blackmail isn't against the law. Taking the photograph, however, is. Oops.
Apparently blackmail is against the law; it's being said that what the guy did doesn't actually qualify as blackmail. Other lawyers are saying that it isn't blackmail, but it can be considered extortion.

This is in addition to the misdemeanor crime of taking a picture of someone nude or semi-nude without consent.
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Never heard of the legendary river pirates on the Mississippi? True, they were largely wiped out by 1800, but they were a thing.
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Surely river piracy on the mighty Missouri River is as feasible now as it was in early days, when
River pirate gangs ... plied the river and waited in ambush for honest flat boaters as they traveled the Ohio, Missouri, and Mississippi Rivers.
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And the Missouri GOP responds by blaming George Soros.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KFILE/sta...78933668814849
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
And the Missouri GOP responds by blaming George Soros.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KFILE/sta...78933668814849
Wow. And this is the official statement of the Missouri GOP, not just some rando staffer running his mouth.
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Wow. And this is the official statement of the Missouri GOP, not just some rando staffer running his mouth.
Which means the GUy is guilty as hell.
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Old 23rd February 2018, 11:30 AM   #16
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You never saw "How The West Was Won"...in which the first episode deals with the River Pirates.
And one of the Disney "Davy Crockett " films has Davy fighting the River Pirates.
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Never heard of the legendary river pirates on the Mississippi? True, they were largely wiped out by 1800, but they were a thing.
Not to mention Missour's own tradition of outlaw gangs......ever hear of Jesse James and Cole Younger?
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He is/was the Education Governor.
It's a learning experience for him!!!!
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Apparently blackmail is against the law; it's being said that what the guy did doesn't actually qualify as blackmail. Other lawyers are saying that it isn't blackmail, but it can be considered extortion.
Apparently the "blackmail" was threatening to release the photo if she revealed the affair, which makes it sound like the photo was intended as insurance. Ironic that it ends up being the issue.

Years ago, I remember a star football player at some college had a gal back in his dorm room and he recorded them having sex (IIRC audio only). so he'd have proof it was consensual. Only he played the tape for some of his buddies latter. Not a good idea.
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
You never saw "How The West Was Won"...in which the first episode deals with the River Pirates.
And one of the Disney "Davy Crockett " films has Davy fighting the River Pirates.
Didn't Abe Lincoln travel down the Mississippi as "muscle" for a flatboat? Coming out of southern Illinois, you went through some of the most dangerous areas. People think of it as Jean Lafitte setting up shop in cultured New Orleans but those were wilderness areas in the late 17th and early 18th centuries. There were outlaw communities.
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Yes, another corrupt Democrat heading for jail!




Hold on...





He's not a....?




Oh, never mind, forget I was here.
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Ah, yes...the GOP: party of family values!
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Ah, yes...the GOP: party of family values!
That used to be a straight-man line for: "Yeah, the Borgias!"

Now, we're thinking more towards: "Yeah, the Corleones!"
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That used to be a straight-man line for: "Yeah, the Borgias!"
The Borgias were no worse than any other aristocratic family of the era, and much of the scandalous legends were deliberate fictions spread by their enemies to make them look bad. A lot of the animosity was due to their Spanish origins, which made them unpopular in Italy. I'm not saying they were nice people, but they certainly weren't as bad as their legend.
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You never saw "How The West Was Won"...in which the first episode deals with the River Pirates.
And one of the Disney "Davy Crockett " films has Davy fighting the River Pirates.
The more embarrassing thing is I live in a sleepy little river town, just north of St. Louis, at one of the spots where the Mississippi is at its widest.
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The more embarrassing thing is I live in a sleepy little river town, just north of St. Louis, at one of the spots where the Mississippi is at its widest.
You should take up river piracy as a profession. Obviously there are unfilled vacancies in your area. Your sleepy river town sounds pretty much like the place plundered by the two swindlers in Huckleberry Finn.
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The more embarrassing thing is I live in a sleepy little river town, just north of St. Louis, at one of the spots where the Mississippi is at its widest.
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You should take up river piracy as a profession. Obviously there are unfilled vacancies in your area. Your sleepy river town sounds pretty much like the place plundered by the two swindlers in Huckleberry Finn.
River piracy requires a lot of exertion. May I suggest...monorail?
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The more embarrassing thing is I live in a sleepy little river town, just north of St. Louis, at one of the spots where the Mississippi is at its widest.
There's a difference between sleepy because it's peaceful and sleepy because everyone's been knocked unconscious by meth lab explosions.
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There's a difference between sleepy because it's peaceful and sleepy because everyone's been knocked unconscious by meth lab explosions.
Is there? Let me quote Mike!
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Apparently the "blackmail" was threatening to release the photo if she revealed the affair, which makes it sound like the photo was intended as insurance. Ironic that it ends up being the issue.
True. I think that sounds like one of those cases of "suffering from unintended consequences."


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Years ago, I remember a star football player at some college had a gal back in his dorm room and he recorded them having sex (IIRC audio only). so he'd have proof it was consensual. Only he played the tape for some of his buddies latter. Not a good idea.
That sounds very odd to me. I don't disbelieve you; I mean that it's odd that a guy would want to have sex with a gal when it was in doubt he'd get permission?

Or is it that he wouldn't have been believed had he claimed they had sex later so to prove it to his buddies, he recorded it?

Hmmm... this is one of those things where it's probably some easy solution but I'm over thinking something which doesn't merit much thinking about in the first place...
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The Borgias were no worse than any other aristocratic family of the era, and much of the scandalous legends were deliberate fictions spread by their enemies to make them look bad. A lot of the animosity was due to their Spanish origins, which made them unpopular in Italy. I'm not saying they were nice people, but they certainly weren't as bad as their legend.
Yeah, I know... cheap shorthand. I was going to use the Earps, but people are still confused due to the hero-ification by Hollywood. Then I thought of the James brothers, but they're kinda folk heroes, too. And no one's ever heard of "the Kindles" a family of 20 kids that terrorized my block in Alphabet City, so I settled on the Borgias. Lazy. I know.
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And the Missouri GOP responds by blaming George Soros.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KFILE/sta...78933668814849
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We look forward to a bipartisan committee of legislators elected by people across Missouri to find out what's really going on...
Unfortunately Missouri GOP, it looks like a court of law will be finding out what's really going on.
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You never saw "How The West Was Won"...in which the first episode deals with the River Pirates.
And one of the Disney "Davy Crockett " films has Davy fighting the River Pirates.
Three eps on the WD show- worked with Mike Fink: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Fink
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True. I think that sounds like one of those cases of "suffering from unintended consequences."



That sounds very odd to me. I don't disbelieve you; I mean that it's odd that a guy would want to have sex with a gal when it was in doubt he'd get permission?

Or is it that he wouldn't have been believed had he claimed they had sex later so to prove it to his buddies, he recorded it?

Hmmm... this is one of those things where it's probably some easy solution but I'm over thinking something which doesn't merit much thinking about in the first place...
Maybe they had left a party and had both been drinking. Maybe they were only buzzed. Maybe he was afraid she'd regret it for some reason later - boyfriend finds out, for example - then she can cry rape and that she was drunk. It happens.

Right now, especially with the MeToo movement going on there's probably an app for that.

- Connect the USB blood alcohol analyzer to phone.
- "Press 'GO' to record a 10 second consent speech from your partner(s).
- Press 'Submit' to send video to local law enforcement.
- Have fun!
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Maybe they had left a party and had both been drinking. Maybe they were only buzzed. Maybe he was afraid she'd regret it for some reason later - boyfriend finds out, for example - then she can cry rape and that she was drunk. It happens.

Right now, especially with the MeToo movement going on there's probably an app for that.

- Connect the USB blood alcohol analyzer to phone.
- "Press 'GO' to record a 10 second consent speech from your partner(s).
- Press 'Submit' to send video to local law enforcement.
- Have fun!
Of course! I should have known the #MeToo movement wasn't about rectifying millennia of improper male behavior against which women had little recourse. It is actually about giving cheating sluts an out to keep on being cheating sluts!
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Three eps on the WD show- worked with Mike Fink: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Fink
That was the Davy Crockett episode I was referring to.
One of the locations was Cave In Rock in Illinois,a actual River Pirate hangout.
They do seem to have been more active on the Ohio then the Missisippi, though.
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It's almost like the selection process for politicians, the fundamental plank of which is the willingness to trade campaign contributions for legislation, thereby corrupting the process of democracy, isn't getting the right people into office...
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Old 28th February 2018, 07:05 AM   #38
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It's almost like the selection process for politicians, the fundamental plank of which is the willingness to trade campaign contributions for legislation, thereby corrupting the process of democracy, isn't getting the right people into office...
How is it corrupting? It is fair for the legislator to favor the policies of his phone bankers over the people they called. Effort matters.
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Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens indicted on felony invasion of privacy charge stemming from affair

tl;dr: Prior to being elected, Greitens had an affair with married woman took a picture of her naked, to which she did not consent. He admits he took the photo but denies he blackmailed her during the campaign to keep her silence about the affair.

Problem is, in Missouri, blackmail isn't against the law. Taking the photograph, however, is. Oops.
Well, I guess it is too bad that the good governor did not follow the Trump model by paying this person off instead of trying to blackmail her.
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Well, I guess it is too bad that the good governor did not follow the Trump model by paying this person off instead of trying to blackmail her.
Then again, it's kind of hard to shame an adult video star by threatening to release nude photos of her, so Trump had no choice.
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