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Old 17th February 2019, 05:16 PM   #1
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Geogia Speaker of the House Abuses his Position to Delay Criminal Trials

Alleged victims say powerful Georgia lawmaker repeatedly delays cases

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David Shell has a long record of beating up women.

He once beat his ex-wife so badly she blacked out, her left eye nearly swollen shut, then he locked her in their home so she couldn’t reach a hospital, she said.

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Yet more than four years after his indictment, Shell remains a free man, the charges against him stymied. A big reason: He paid a large retainer fee to hire an attorney who is also one of Georgia’s most powerful lawmakers, state Speaker of the House David Ralston.

Just as Ralston has done for other clients charged with violent or heinous crimes, he used his elected position to delay hearings and court dates, preventing the case from moving forward in the Gilmer County justice system.

“That’s why I gave him 20,000 bucks,” Shell told The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “He’s worth every penny of it.”


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Ralston has tied up cases for clients charged with child molestation, child cruelty, assault, terroristic threats, drunk driving and other crimes.
What a corrupt monster.
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Old 17th February 2019, 05:24 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
That article is amazing.
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Old 17th February 2019, 05:32 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
That article is amazing.
I can't believe David Shell went on record and basically said, "Yep, he told he he could delay my case by abusing his power and I paid him $20,000 to do that.” Extraordinary.
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Old 17th February 2019, 05:51 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Stacko View Post
I can't believe David Shell went on record and basically said, "Yep, he told he he could delay my case by abusing his power and I paid him $20,000 to do that.” Extraordinary.
This guy should be in prison and I'm not talking about Shell.
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Originally Posted by acbytesla View Post
This guy should be in prison and I'm not talking about Shell.
Why not both?
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Originally Posted by beren View Post
Why not both?
Sure, but it sounds as if the Speaker is the more treacherous criminal.
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I can't believe David Shell went on record and basically said, "Yep, he told he he could delay my case by abusing his power and I paid him $20,000 to do that.” Extraordinary.
In these dark times this kind of upfront honesty is uplifting. Of course it may not have been the smartest decision to basically acknowledge that he paid someone to successfully stall his legal proceedings...
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I think the rest of the Bar can revoke his license.
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No worries.

He a Repugnican, so some of the forum's usual suspects will be along soon enough to defend this pig.
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No worries.

He a Repugnican, so some of the forum's usual suspects will be along soon enough to defend this pig.
Oh no, that's not how they work around here. The standard tactic is to claim that the offending GOPer is a nobody with zero influence.

Same thing they say when the 30th Republican state senator this week gets caught using racial slurs or saluting Hitler.
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Isn't that illegal? I mean he has a clear conflict of interests.
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
He [is] a Repugnican
I see my suggestion has caught on.
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Old 18th February 2019, 07:46 AM   #14
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Isn't that illegal? I mean he has a clear conflict of interests.
Not in Georgia.

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Under a state law dating back to 1905, judges and prosecutors must defer to the legislative schedule of any practicing attorney who serves in the General Assembly. Other attorney-lawmakers, though, are mainly relegated to claiming the exemption during the annual 40-day legislative sessions.
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Not in Georgia.
Sorry, what does that mean?
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Sorry, what does that mean?
Old law to allow legislators to continue to be practicing attorneys has unintended consequences. What constitutes the legislative schedule of the Georgia house has been so expanded that he claims anything to delay trials.
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Old law to allow legislators to continue to be practicing attorneys has unintended consequences. What constitutes the legislative schedule of the Georgia house has been so expanded that he claims anything to delay trials.
I see. I'd say it's time to change that law, but oviously that won't happen with the legislators being practicing lawyers.
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I see. I'd say it's time to change that law, but oviously that won't happen with the legislators being practicing lawyers.
It'd probably be easier to amend the law to prevent the same cases from continually being delayed using the law.
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I should note that the person I am quoting is Gerhard Klopfer (primary assistant to Martin Borman, head of the Nazi Party) talking to Wilhelm Stuckart, the man who wrote Germany's anti-Jewish laws at the Wansee Conference where they were debating the legality of the Holocaust.
Isn't that from the movie "Conspiracy"?
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Isn't that from the movie "Conspiracy"?
Yeah. Not sure how historically accurate it is, but the broader point that the Nazi got a lot of mileage of putting lawyers into power to right laws is accurate.
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It'd probably be easier to amend the law to prevent the same cases from continually being delayed using the law.
That would require action by the legislature. The jerk is Speaker of the House there.
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Does the Constitutional right to a speedy trial only apply voluntarily? I mean, if the accused wants the trial they can pursue a case that it's being improperly delayed. But can that same speedy trial thing be applied even if the accused would prefer to delay it forever?
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Does the Constitutional right to a speedy trial only apply voluntarily? I mean, if the accused wants the trial they can pursue a case that it's being improperly delayed. But can that same speedy trial thing be applied even if the accused would prefer to delay it forever?

Nope. Zedner V. United States, 2006.

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The Court unanimously held that the defendant was correct; one may not prospectively waive one's rights under the Speedy Trial Act. Justice Alito wrote that the purpose of the Act is not simply to protect the defendant's rights, but to protect the public's interest in a speedy trial. For that reason, the Act excludes certain delays even at the request of the defendant.
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That would require action by the legislature. The jerk is Speaker of the House there.
Hmm maybe have the victim sue him for violating their right to a speedy trial under the constitution? Of course this is not exactly going to be an easy or cheap lawsuit.
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Hmm maybe have the victim sue him for violating their right to a speedy trial under the constitution? Of course this is not exactly going to be an easy or cheap lawsuit.
And he can keep postponing that trial too!
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And he can keep postponing that trial too!
In federal court?
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Not in Georgia.
What about in Geogia?

Geogiaaaa ... Geogiaaaaa ... da hoooo dey thooooooo.
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What about in Geogia?

Geogiaaaa ... Geogiaaaaa ... da hoooo dey thooooooo.
I prefer

"Hurrah! Hurrah!
We bring the Jubilee
Hurrah! Hurrah!
The Flag That Sets You Free
So we sang the Chorus From Atlanta to the Sea
As we were Marching Through Georgia!"

I love singing that song just because the Neo Confederates hate it so much...

And, I repeat, Georgia really needs another little visit from General Sherman and his "Bummers".
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I see my suggestion has caught on.
I like it.

My suggestion is "anti-democratic"
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He [is] a Repugnican
I see my suggestion has caught on.
It's punchier than my proposal, "anti-Democratic"
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We could retire in the South and have a much higher standard of living... more bang for our buck. But the only problem with this is that we'd have to live in the South. Cain't do it. Just cain't do it.
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Why not both?
Thanks - and well said - saved me the trouble!!!
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
I prefer

"Hurrah! Hurrah!
We bring the Jubilee
Hurrah! Hurrah!
The Flag That Sets You Free
So we sang the Chorus From Atlanta to the Sea
As we were Marching Through Georgia!"

I love singing that song just because the Neo Confederates hate it so much...

And, I repeat, Georgia really needs another little visit from General Sherman and his "Bummers".
Sounds like you might just be right there!!
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Sounds like you might just be right there!!
Not to mention, I believe it is now even more correct to refer to those rectums and neonutzis. .
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Is acting as your personal lawyer, who happens to also be in governmental power, then using that power to protect you, something doesn't seem right about that.

I don't see why bribery laws wouldn't apply, except in the rare case where the official is acting under a (state) constitution's directly assigned power, such that the legislature cannot attach strings to its execution. Even then it might apply to the tit-for-tat agreement (whether eventually executed or not), even though the actual actions would not be invalid.
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