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Old 17th January 2021, 07:48 AM   #1
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The Next Trump?

There is an opinion piece in today's Observer (part of the Guardian 'empire'), suggesting that Mike Pompeo is lining himself up as the next Republican president, in the Trump mould.

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Old 17th January 2021, 07:50 AM   #2
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I was thinking the same thing.

He would be so much more dangerous. He is actually religious and seems to be way smarter than Trump. And from what I can tell, seems to have the MAGA-morons in thrall.
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Old 17th January 2021, 08:41 AM   #3
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Pompeo puts people to sleep when you listen to him. No doubt he can win support from the evangelical wing but he has zero charisma.
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Old 17th January 2021, 08:55 AM   #4
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the only people who hate career Republicans more than Democrats are Republican voters.
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Old 17th January 2021, 09:35 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
the only people who hate career Republicans more than Democrats are Republican voters.

Yes - Trump had value to them in part because he was an outsider. I can't see any career politician stepping into that role unless they can really successfully portray themself as an outsider. (Outsider in the sense that they have not previously run for or held office, not outsider from being politically involved.)

We would need to look at conservative business people, actors, singers, sports people, maybe news or talk radio.

I was even wondering if Alex Jones might step up to the plate. He's a bowlfull of crazy, but the Trumpkins love him for that.

Ted Nugent might be even too crazy appeal to them.

Kevin Sorbo? Good looking guy, tall (that really matters with male politicians), charismatic and popular with evangelicals. He was fun as Heracles, but his political views are solidly far-right.

Pillow guy? Maybe not rich enough or successful enough to pull off the "Rich business magnate" thing, possibly also too tied to Trump's last few weeks of obvious failure.

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Old 17th January 2021, 09:43 AM   #6
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Tom Cotton.
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Old 17th January 2021, 09:59 AM   #7
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Keep in mind that statistically, the candidate that is seen as most moderate has the best chance at winning the general election. (Its not a guarantee, as there are other factors involved, but it is an advantage.) Heck, back in 2016, Trump was actually viewed as more moderate than Clinton was.

Some of the people mentioned (Pompeo, Kevin Sorbo, Tom Cotton) would appeal to many in the republican party, and they could possibly win in the primaries. But they might have a hard time in the general election.
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Old 17th January 2021, 10:04 AM   #8
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It is impossible right now to predict who will be next fuhrer of Republicans.

I can be only sure of one thing: he will be worse than Trump.
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Old 17th January 2021, 01:03 PM   #9
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Tucker Carlson
Donald Trump Jr.
Tom Cotton
Ted Cruz
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Old 17th January 2021, 01:32 PM   #10
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Ooh, oooh! I just thought of it!

JAMES WOODS!

A James Woods/Alex Jones ticket! Heaping bucketfulls of crazy. A nonstop Gish gallop make believe world of permeant adrenaline rush conspiracy boogaloo Qanon mad hattery!

I mean, if you want to drive the GOP right off the right cliff, then you gotta go big or go home.


ETA: Tom Selleck? Solidly conservative, board member of NRA. Still has the rifle from "Quigly Down Under". Probably not crazy enough to court modern right-wing bloodlust, without which one cannot gain the GOP nomination.

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Old 17th January 2021, 01:43 PM   #11
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None of those. It can't be any politician.
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Old 17th January 2021, 01:48 PM   #12
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Old 17th January 2021, 05:25 PM   #14
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At this point, I wouldn't put it past Republicans to vote for this guy
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Old 17th January 2021, 05:39 PM   #15
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At this point, I wouldn't put it past Republicans to vote for this guy
Stephen Miller?
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Old 17th January 2021, 06:03 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by crescent View Post
Ooh, oooh! I just thought of it!

JAMES WOODS!

A James Woods/Alex Jones ticket! Heaping bucketfulls of crazy. A nonstop Gish gallop make believe world of permeant adrenaline rush conspiracy boogaloo Qanon mad hattery!

I mean, if you want to drive the GOP right off the right cliff, then you gotta go big or go home.


ETA: Tom Selleck? Solidly conservative, board member of NRA. Still has the rifle from "Quigly Down Under". Probably not crazy enough to court modern right-wing bloodlust, without which one cannot gain the GOP nomination.
I think you hit the nail on the head re: Selleck's "fault". He's right wing sure, but sensible right wing as far as I can tell. Nary a whiff of crazy.
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Keep in mind that statistically, the candidate that is seen as most moderate has the best chance at winning the general election. (Its not a guarantee, as there are other factors involved, but it is an advantage.) Heck, back in 2016, Trump was actually viewed as more moderate than Clinton was.

Some of the people mentioned (Pompeo, Kevin Sorbo, Tom Cotton) would appeal to many in the republican party, and they could possibly win in the primaries. But they might have a hard time in the general election.
We all thought that about Trump.
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Old 17th January 2021, 06:45 PM   #18
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A James Woods/Alex Jones ticket!
Nah.

Woods and Jon Voight, surely?
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Tucker Carlson
Donald Trump Jr.
Tom Cotton
Ted Cruz
Ron DeSantis
Scott Adams.
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At the rate they are going, Alex Jones.
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General Flynn seems popular with the far far right these days.
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At this point, I wouldn't put it past Republicans to vote for this guy
not a chance - half the time he's quite reasonable.
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Stephen Miller?
No, but I understand the confusion.
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Old 18th January 2021, 12:50 AM   #24
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Well, Pompass is certainly putting together his foreign policy platform. He just made a bunch of decisions the Biden team will have no choice but to reverse. He's setting Biden up to be soft on China and soft on Iran. Like all the Trumptrash who will want the nomination, they'll need Trump to anoint them as his successor but that will all but doom them in the general election.
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Maybe this guy?

https://trump.com.au/

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Since Trump Floorcoverings began in 1992, it has established itself as one of Australia’s largest commercial floorcovering companies.
I saw one of their vans today and thought “why”, but then thought “around since 1992, why not?”.

It’s a wonder they haven’t sold the domain name.



Okay, sorry.
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Maybe this guy?

https://trump.com.au/



I saw one of their vans today and thought “why”, but then thought “around since 1992, why not?”.

It’s a wonder they haven’t sold the domain name.



Okay, sorry.
First, we're trying to prevent further T entries on the list of US Presidents.
But mostly, we have this snarky "native-born citizen" rule.
Sorry, though they're probably decent folk... despite the name.
(certainly unlikely to be worse than ours)
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I was thinking the same thing.

He would be so much more dangerous. He is actually religious and seems to be way smarter than Trump. And from what I can tell, seems to have the MAGA-morons in thrall.
The highlighted part, while being a low bar, may not be important at all. What made Trump dangerous is his ability to unite the various violent far-right factions. My understanding of them is that if they have 1000 members, their natural state is to be in 100 10-person factions instead of one big one (not unlike the Judean People's Front, People's Front of Judea, the Judean Popular Front etc.). I don't know what it takes to unite these morons, but looking at Trump, brains ain't it.
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The highlighted part, while being a low bar, may not be important at all. What made Trump dangerous is his ability to unite the various violent far-right factions. My understanding of them is that if they have 1000 members, their natural state is to be in 100 10-person factions instead of one big one (not unlike the Judean People's Front, People's Front of Judea, the Judean Popular Front etc.). I don't know what it takes to unite these morons, but looking at Trump, brains ain't it.
I think that's where President Trump's stream of (un)consciousness comes into play. Every person can come away with the impression that President Trump agrees with them - even if individual groups have diametrically opposing views.

Someone who speaks clearly, in complete sentences, about a single platform will necessarily alienate a proportion of those listening.
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