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View Poll Results: Who will win the senate seat
Roy Moore 60 68.18%
Doug Jones 5 5.68%
Donít know/Planet X/third option 23 26.14%
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Old 11th December 2017, 01:35 PM   #121
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
With what Moore has been through here, I’ll be amazed if he wins it.
Oh indeed! You are so very right.

That poor, poor man!

By the way, does your side have any 14 year old girls that could be provided to Moore as a consolation prize if he loses the election?
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Old 11th December 2017, 01:40 PM   #122
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I have a real problem with Gloria Allred's performance as the attorney for some of these women. She needs to represent her clients before her cause. It does not appear to me that she acts in the interests of her clients at all times as she is required to do.
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Originally Posted by Crossbow View Post
Oh indeed! You are so very right.

That poor, poor man!

By the way, does your side have any 14 year old girls that could be provided to Moore as a consolation prize if he loses the election?
Your side seems have a whole island full of them, thereís even a plane mr
Epstein owns called the Lolita express. Google it, it might open your eyes.
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
With what Moore has been through here, I’ll be amazed if he wins it.

Originally Posted by Crossbow View Post
Oh indeed! You are so very right.

That poor, poor man!

By the way, does your side have any 14 year old girls that could be provided to Moore as a consolation prize if he loses the election?
The long range plan is to oust Trump, consolidate power under Grand Inquisitor Pence, and then institute Biblical Law.

Then the deeply wronged and aggrieved Alabama Ayahtollah will be able to legally buy as many 14 year old girls as he can afford from their impoverished parents.

But the Moore-atollah will have to choose his investments wisely. Biblical Law, in all it's justice and wisdom, will not allow him to demand a refund from the parents if he decides to turn a girl out into the street.

Says right there in Exodus 21, 1-11
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Your side seems have a whole island full of them, thereís even a plane mr
Epstein owns called the Lolita express. Google it, it might open your eyes.
You mean the Epstein who was a close friend of Donald Trump and frequent visitor to Mar a Lago, that Epstein?

And you're talking about that plane which Trump had flown on, right, that plane?
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Epstein and Trump went to a party where Trump, allegedly, raped a 13-year old girl.
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I'm really only seeing this in terms of R vs. D votes in the Senate. I don't want to consolidate more power with Trump. So I hope the R's lose a seat. Except as part of a voting bloc I don't think Moore's going to have much influence in the Senate. Best case he will be a liability.

I'm afraid Fox is trying to lull D's into complacency. I hope the D's have learned the lesson from 13 months ago.
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Originally Posted by lobosrul5 View Post
I am going to five Fox News the benefit of the doubt... even though it pains me to do so. First, their polls are conducted by two independent groups. Secondly their poll included cell phone numbers, which it seems few if any of the others did, which could explain why they have wildly different results (the younger someone is the less likely they are to have a landline).
Who are Fox 5? I see polls by Fox10 and Fox6. The "Fox News" poll they are showing is not the local news stations; it's the national. And they may be using a more reputable polling firm than the local Fox affiliates, who are using something called "Strategy Research" who if they are a polling firm have a distinctly low profile as I cannot find them anywhere.
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Originally Posted by Toontown View Post
The long range plan is to oust Trump, consolidate power under Grand Inquisitor Pence, and then institute Biblical Law.

Then the deeply wronged and aggrieved Alabama Ayahtollah will be able to legally buy as many 14 year old girls as he can afford from their impoverished parents.

But the Moore-atollah will have to choose his investments wisely. Biblical Law, in all it's justice and wisdom, will not allow him to demand a refund from the parents if he decides to turn a girl out into the street.

Says right there in Exodus 21, 1-11
You could be on to something.

I'm baffled but shouldn't be, that Jones is not a hero for prosecuting two of the church bombers.
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Have you ever seen a yearbook? The amount of writing in your yearbook is related to how popular you were. The whole point of the blank pages in the yearbook is to be written in.
non sequitur of the thread
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Originally Posted by Skeptic Ginger View Post
You could be on to something.

I'm baffled but shouldn't be, that Jones is not a hero for prosecuting two of the church bombers.
Jones was just doing his job, unlike Moore, who stubbornly refused to do his.

Alabama Republicans admire people who refuse to toe the line. Even if they swore an oath to toe the line when they took their oaths of office. Oaths mean nothing to Alabama Republicans. They're still fighting the civil war, using passive resistance.

Just kidding. I have no idea what they're thinking.

Edited to add: Maybe they're thinking they just want to stop what's happening and make something different happen, and Moore represents something different happening.

But Moore looks like just more of the same old crap to me. A wheel in the ditch and a wheel on the track.
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Originally Posted by logger View Post
Your side seems have a whole island full of them, thereís even a plane mr
Epstein owns called the Lolita express. Google it, it might open your eyes.
And while your side is finding additional young girls for Roy to date, find a couple for Trump as well. But make sure that the girls for Trump girls look like his daughter so that he will be extra pu**y grabbing happy with them.
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Is anyone here from Alabama?

Is Aisha still around?

I hope everyone goes out and votes against the loathsome creature that is Roy Moore.
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
Epstein and Trump went to a party where Trump, allegedly, raped a 13-year old girl.
I haven't exactly followed the case closely, but last I heard the allegations had been disproven. I think there's enough to legitimately criticise Trump for - including sexual assault and rape - without having to rely on a story like that one.

On the other hand, it's quite clear that he knew Epstein was into underage girls and it doesn't look like he had a problem with that, given that he's spoken admiringly to the press before about his friend Epstein and how he "likes them young", whereas even the right-wing press reported that Clinton (which is why I assume Epstein has been raised as a spectre of the left's) seemed to sever ties with Epstein very abruptly and speculated that it might have been because he found out about the underage girls.

So, if this absolutely has to be weaponised, then I'm not sure it does the most damage to the left, as logger was no doubt intending.
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Jesus will win! It will be decided by divine rule. This is Alabama.
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Jesus will win! It will be decided by divine rule. This is Alabama.
That would make for a very interesting aftermath if Moore loses decisively.
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Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Who are Fox 5? I see polls by Fox10 and Fox6. The "Fox News" poll they are showing is not the local news stations; it's the national. And they may be using a more reputable polling firm than the local Fox affiliates, who are using something called "Strategy Research" who if they are a polling firm have a distinctly low profile as I cannot find them anywhere.
The Fox 5 is a show on Fox News right?? The Fox affiliate in Mobile is channel 10, 6 is Birmingham. Neither is owned by 20th Century Fox (News Corp).

So from 538:

Issue No. 1, not calling cellphones, is potentially a major problem: The Fox News poll found Jones leading by 30 points among people who were interviewed by cellphone. Slightly more than half of American adults don’t have access to a landline, according to recent estimates by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which also found a higher share of mobile-only households in the South than in other parts of the country. Moreover, voters with landline service are older than the voting population as a whole and are more likely to be white — characteristics that correlate strongly with voting Republican, especially in states such as Alabama.

They are one of very few polls that used live interviewers. Robocalls are prohibited by law from calling cellphones (not claiming they never do anyways). All that is after him warning people to take everything with a grain of salt as this is an especially weird election.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...nate-election/

ETA: I had a typo in my previous post. I meant "give" Fox a break. Not "five" them.

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No fire in the Democrat’s speech. What was his name? Election all about Moore:
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...91743?lo=ap_a1
just like the 2016 election was about Trump. Hillary got the Oscar for best supporting role.
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With what Moore has been through here, Iíll be amazed if he wins it.
Lol

This time, I'm gonna agree with you, logger: I no longer believe that Moore will win.
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Originally Posted by thaiboxerken View Post
Epstein and Trump went to a party where Trump, allegedly, raped a 13-year old girl.
Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
I haven't exactly followed the case closely, but last I heard the allegations had been disproven. I think there's enough to legitimately criticise Trump for - including sexual assault and rape - without having to rely on a story like that one.

On the other hand, it's quite clear that he knew Epstein was into underage girls and it doesn't look like he had a problem with that, given that he's spoken admiringly to the press before about his friend Epstein and how he "likes them young", whereas even the right-wing press reported that Clinton (which is why I assume Epstein has been raised as a spectre of the left's) seemed to sever ties with Epstein very abruptly and speculated that it might have been because he found out about the underage girls.

So, if this absolutely has to be weaponised, then I'm not sure it does the most damage to the left, as logger was no doubt intending.
Not proven or disproven, but the suit was filed and dropped twice. It probably isn't possible to prove it one way or the other.
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Not proven or disproven, but the suit was filed and dropped twice. It probably isn't possible to prove it one way or the other.
I know it's The Daily Mail, and I know it's "a source", but there is at least one story alleging the evidence didn't add up.
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But that snopes article does have a link to what I was thinking about:

Quote:
And yet if you talk to Donald Trump, a different Epstein emerges. "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump booms from a speakerphone. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."
So Trump knows that he likes to have sex with people "on the younger side", and describes Epstein as a "terrific guy". I don't think logger really thought it through before bringing him up.
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Could that Daily Fail article possibly be any more vague?

Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
But that snopes article does have a link to what I was thinking about:



So Trump knows that he likes to have sex with people "on the younger side", and describes Epstein as a "terrific guy". I don't think logger really thought it through before bringing him up.
One of the reasons I linked it, actually.
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I am going to five Fox News the benefit of the doubt... even though it pains me to do so. First, their polls are conducted by two independent groups. Secondly their poll included cell phone numbers, which it seems few if any of the others did, which could explain why they have wildly different results (the younger someone is the less likely they are to have a landline).


Originally Posted by Foolmewunz View Post
Who are Fox 5? I see polls by Fox10 and Fox6. The "Fox News" poll they are showing is not the local news stations; it's the national. And they may be using a more reputable polling firm than the local Fox affiliates, who are using something called "Strategy Research" who if they are a polling firm have a distinctly low profile as I cannot find them anywhere.

Context clues and letter placement on the keyboard leads me to believe that "I'm going to five Fox News the benefit of the doubt" is a typo and it should be " I'm going to give Fox News the benefit of the doubt"
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Originally Posted by Toontown View Post
The long range plan is to oust Trump, consolidate power under Grand Inquisitor Pence, and then institute Biblical Law.

Then the deeply wronged and aggrieved Alabama Ayahtollah will be able to legally buy as many 14 year old girls as he can afford from their impoverished parents.

But the Moore-atollah will have to choose his investments wisely. Biblical Law, in all it's justice and wisdom, will not allow him to demand a refund from the parents if he decides to turn a girl out into the street.

Says right there in Exodus 21, 1-11
This sadly is the reality the left lives in. I hope we can get it done!
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And while your side is finding additional young girls for Roy to date, find a couple for Trump as well. But make sure that the girls for Trump girls look like his daughter so that he will be extra pu**y grabbing happy with them.
Is he headed for West Virginia?
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But that snopes article does have a link to what I was thinking about:



So Trump knows that he likes to have sex with people "on the younger side", and describes Epstein as a "terrific guy". I don't think logger really thought it through before bringing him up.
6 years before Epstein was charged. But once again it is much more of a problem with your side. Notice you forgot what Clinton actually did with Epstein. If Trump thought of him as an acquaintance, Clinton surely thought of him as a good friend. It’s obvious Epstein fed Clinton in the Way slick Willy likes.
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This sadly is the reality the left lives in. I hope we can get it done!
The Alabama Ayahtollah is the reality the right lives in. He represents their voter base to a very sad extent.
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Remember how the Georgia special elections records and their backups were completely destroyed ahead of schedule despite a Lawsuit asking for those records.

Well a circuit judge in Alabama ordered the records for their election today to be preserved.

So of course the Alabama Supreme Court then blocked that order. I mean who wants legitimate verifiable elections right?

Can we kick Alabama out of the union and replace it with Puerto Rico? I'll take destroyed infrastructure over destroyed integrity.
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Remember how the Georgia special elections records and their backups were completely destroyed ahead of schedule despite a Lawsuit asking for those records.

Well a circuit judge in Alabama ordered the records for their election today to be preserved.

So of course the Alabama Supreme Court then blocked that order. I mean who wants legitimate verifiable elections right?

Can we kick Alabama out of the union and replace it with Puerto Rico? I'll take destroyed infrastructure over destroyed integrity.
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Remember how the Georgia special elections records and their backups were completely destroyed ahead of schedule despite a Lawsuit asking for those records.

Well a circuit judge in Alabama ordered the records for their election today to be preserved.

So of course the Alabama Supreme Court then blocked that order. I mean who wants legitimate verifiable elections right?

Can we kick Alabama out of the union and replace it with Puerto Rico? I'll take destroyed infrastructure over destroyed integrity.
I see why a supreme Court would be making a reasonable decision by staying the order.
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Is anyone here from Alabama?
Isn't electricity a requirement for Internet use?
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Old 12th December 2017, 12:31 PM   #154
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Isn't electricity a requirement for Internet use?
That is Puerto Rico.
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Old 12th December 2017, 12:43 PM   #155
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Originally Posted by C_Felix View Post
Linky?

Here and here.

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Alabama is allowed to destroy digital voting records created at the polls during today's U.S. Senate election after all.

At 1:36 p.m. Monday, a Montgomery County Circuit Court judge issued an order directing Alabama election officials to preserve all digital ballot images created at polling places across the state today.

But at 4:32 p.m. Monday, attorneys for Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill and Ed Packard, the state administrator of elections, filed an "emergency motion to stay" that order, which the state Supreme Court granted minutes after Merrill and Packard's motion was filed.

By granting the stay, the court effectively told the state that it does not in fact have to preserve the digital ballot images - essentially digitized versions of the paper ballots voters fill out at the voting booth - created today.

I'm surprised it took as long as three hours.
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Old 12th December 2017, 12:50 PM   #156
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Here and here.




I'm surprised it took as long as three hours.
Oh, my god.
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Old 12th December 2017, 12:51 PM   #157
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Oh, my god.
Do you disagree with the decision? If so, why?
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Well, I live in Ali-bama (since 1997) and have voted this morning (for Jones and to keep/renew the school tax levies already in place). Seemed to be pretty busy, not a mob but a very steady progression of voters. Who it benefits remains to be seen.

As to the run-up, Jones spent considerable bucks on commercials and phone calls, and I was called by two different polling agencies over the past two weeks. Moore has done little except appear in various churches, not much on TV or any other get out the vote activities. He appears to think his core is going to be enough. We shall see.
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Well, I live in Ali-bama (since 1997) and have voted this morning (for Jones and to keep/renew the school tax levies already in place). Seemed to be pretty busy, not a mob but a very steady progression of voters. Who it benefits remains to be seen.

As to the run-up, Jones spent considerable bucks on commercials and phone calls, and I was called by two different polling agencies over the past two weeks. Moore has done little except appear in various churches, not much on TV or any other get out the vote activities. He appears to think his core is going to be enough. We shall see.
Moore's reticence to make appearances prior to election was brilliant and surely not his idea. The more he talks, the more likely he screws up. The same was true of Trump, but it never hurt him. It might have hurt Moore, who was already known to his base.

Good luck, sir. I wouldn't want him representing me.
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Why would anyone (who is playing on the level) want to destroy the digital paper trail of an election?
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