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View Poll Results: Who will win the senate seat
Roy Moore 60 68.18%
Doug Jones 5 5.68%
Don’t know/Planet X/third option 23 26.14%
Voters: 88. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 12th December 2017, 02:15 PM   #161
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Well, I live in Ali-bama (since 1997) and have voted this morning (for Jones and to keep/renew the school tax levies already in place). Seemed to be pretty busy, not a mob but a very steady progression of voters. Who it benefits remains to be seen.

As to the run-up, Jones spent considerable bucks on commercials and phone calls, and I was called by two different polling agencies over the past two weeks. Moore has done little except appear in various churches, not much on TV or any other get out the vote activities. He appears to think his core is going to be enough. We shall see.
Fingers crossed for y'all over there in these final hours, typing with a twang from TN.
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Old 12th December 2017, 02:17 PM   #162
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Originally Posted by C_Felix View Post
Why would anyone (who is playing on the level) want to destroy the digital paper trail of an election?
There is no reason.
Nobody would.
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I thought one of the guidelines of being evil and corrupt is to not appear evil and corrupt.
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Old 12th December 2017, 03:12 PM   #164
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In such an important election where skullduggery cannot be completely ruled out, the fact of an explicit desire to *not* preserve a record of the votes is ominous. I mean, WTF?! If there's *any* perceived potential for 'creative' vote counting expressed by any vested party that wishes a record be kept for the purpose of verification in instances of doubt, then there had bloody well be a record kept. That's only good sense which benefits the *electoral process* and the citizenry. Any dissenter against such a measure of protection is automatically suspect in my books.
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The fact that this guy is genuinely surprised by Jake Tapper's correction is the most hilariously depressing thing I've seen all day.
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Old 12th December 2017, 03:30 PM   #166
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In such an important election where skullduggery cannot be completely ruled out, the fact of an explicit desire to *not* preserve a record of the votes is ominous. I mean, WTF?! If there's *any* perceived potential for 'creative' vote counting expressed by any vested party that wishes a record be kept for the purpose of verification in instances of doubt, then there had bloody well be a record kept. That's only good sense which benefits the *electoral process* and the citizenry. Any dissenter against such a measure of protection is automatically suspect in my books.
I wouldn't include the supreme Court on this. They have to rule on matters of law. And you thinking they are suspect is not a matter of law.
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Old 12th December 2017, 03:31 PM   #167
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There is no reason.
Nobody would.
If it isn't your job to keep it, then don't keep unneeded stuff lying around.
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Originally Posted by BobTheCoward View Post
If it isn't your job to keep it, then don't keep unneeded stuff lying around.
When it can be downloaded onto a memory stick the size of your fingernail, I don't think it's exactly and imposition to do in making sure that the election is fair and that no tampering has occurred.
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when the polls close anyway?
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Quote:
But when she arrived at her polling place, the First Assembly of God Church, on Tuesday morning, Jiles was told that she was “inactive” on the rolls and would have to cast a provisional ballot — a ballot that will not be counted unless she is able to verify her voter information.

“That makes no sense,” she told ThinkProgress, explaining that the poll workers told her she’d have to drive to another precinct to update her information, even though she voted here last November.

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Jiles said she witnessed at least six other voters also being forced to vote provisional, and reports on Twitter indicate the issue is more widespread than just this one polling location.
https://thinkprogress.org/alabamians...-50ddc1b53b3a/


It's not like this is the first time people who should be registered find they've been mysteriously removed. But wasn't there something about Russians hacking 20+ state's voter registration systems?

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The AP contacted every state election office to determine which ones had been informed that their election systems had been targeted. The others confirming were Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Iowa, Maryland, Minnesota, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Oregon, Texas and Washington.

....

The hacking attempt was on the state's voter registration system, not voting machines. Had hackers taken over the voter registration system, they could have suspended people's registrations, creating confusion and long lines at the polls.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...016/694719001/
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when the polls close anyway?
1861.
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When it can be downloaded onto a memory stick the size of your fingernail, I don't think it's exactly and imposition to do in making sure that the election is fair and that no tampering has occurred.
It is literally an imposition
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The exit polls don't show a clear advantage between the decent Alabamans and the sister ****ers.
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The exit polls don't show a clear advantage between the decent Alabamans and the sister ****ers.
I heard the exit polls showed Roy Moore hanging in the teens.








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I heard the exit polls showed Roy Moore hanging in the teens.








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If it isn't your job to keep it, then don't keep unneeded stuff lying around.
Do voting results qualify as "unneeded stuff" in an election?
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In such an important election where skullduggery cannot be completely ruled out, the fact of an explicit desire to *not* preserve a record of the votes is ominous. I mean, WTF?! If there's *any* perceived potential for 'creative' vote counting expressed by any vested party that wishes a record be kept for the purpose of verification in instances of doubt, then there had bloody well be a record kept. That's only good sense which benefits the *electoral process* and the citizenry. Any dissenter against such a measure of protection is automatically suspect in my books.
A cluster-eff is possible.

The polls have been neck and neck. What will happen if a recount is necessary?

And part of me wants this to happen...to expose the effery that the GOP uses to manipulate elections.
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CNN knows the exit polls already, and just chooses not to reveal it before the polls close. There's a game to play to see if they're starting to soft sell a Jones loss or get the party started. Invert it on Fox.
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"Roy Moore thinks the race could go either way"
"Moore campaign: We'll fight to the bitter end"

Isn't that an admission of defeat?
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Anyone want to set an over/under on the number of write ins for Nick Saban?
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Do voting results qualify as "unneeded stuff" in an election?
Not by law.
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No, I don't think so. I think it is actually just close and nobody knows yet.
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I'm gonna take one for the team. Over on Fox, the despicable Tucker Carlson is still fighting against Hillary, but they're running the count across the bottom of the screen. <1% in Jones 55.8%, Moore 43.3%
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I heard the exit polls showed Roy Moore hanging in the teens.








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I'm gonna take one for the team. Over on Fox, the despicable Tucker Carlson is still fighting against Hillary, but they're running the count across the bottom of the screen. <1% in Jones 55.8%, Moore 43.3%
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Is he headed for West Virginia?
Another typical dodge.
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Another typical dodge.
If you say so.

But instead of your post consisting of replies to mine, why not focus your attention with something on your own?
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Took one for the team, too, to verify. I believe it is almost official. Just did a compare and contrast between CNN and Fox, and yeah, Team Blue is solidly winning so far.
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With less than 4,000 votes in, CNN is showing Jones 61% and Moore 38%.
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I'm gonna take one for the team. Over on Fox, the despicable Tucker Carlson is still fighting against Hillary, but they're running the count across the bottom of the screen. <1% in Jones 55.8%, Moore 43.3%
Meaningless. Large cities always report first and vote Democratic.
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I'm taking the Stoic attitude: I fully expect Moore to win. It will be a pleasant surprise if he doesn't, but in all likelihood he will.

Seeing some numbers starting to come in now:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/12/po...est/index.html
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CNN is 100% on the election, Fox is dropping back into Tucker's show, part-and-part so far (he's hosting both. He may be the most sycophantic and insufferable of all their hosts.)
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Now that Republicans have made it that *********** children is acceptable if the opponent is a Democrat, I don't see any reason why Moore would lose.

I would hope that this disgusts conservatives, but I've yet to see any evidence of shame on their part.
Why does it shame anyone who thinks they're above the law or above what is considered socially acceptable? Look at all the people who are defending Polanski.

With the current wave of accusations flooding the news, it may continue to be less and less socially acceptable to sexually assault or treat people so poorly in the future.

ETA; as of 5:37 pm PST Moore is way behind. If he continues to do this poorly, I'm certain he'll blame anyone but himself.

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I'm taking the Stoic attitude: I fully expect Moore to win. It will be a pleasant surprise if he doesn't, but in all likelihood he will.

Seeing some numbers starting to come in now:

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/12/12/po...est/index.html
I'm allowing for a tiny amount of cautious optimism.
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Is Fox betraying that they don't think Moore will win?
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Meaningless. Large cities always report first and vote Democratic.
T'ain't necessarily true. Unless you have actual data from Alabama, not a safe statement to make. Rural outposts close on time and count their fourteen votes quickly. City polls often have lines out the door at closing time and get around to counting the votes for several hours.
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CNN: With 16,000 votes in Jones is gaining more.
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Now dropping for Jones 53% to 45%.
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