Merged: UK Queen dead? Dying?/Liz Mountbatten's death

[The Atheist]

Originally Posted by lobosrul5

Her Majesty is a pretty nice girl
But she doesn't have a lot to say
Her Majesty is a pretty nice girl
But she changes from day to day
I wanna tell her that I love her a lot
But I gotta get a belly full of wine
Her Majesty is a pretty nice girl
Someday I'm gonna make her mine, oh yeah
Someday I'm gonna make her mine

That has to be John Cooper Clark?

Originally Posted by Ron Obvious

I've noticed the same thing. Can someone tell me if "passed away" has become offensive yet? I can't seem to keep up with these things.

I still say "died", the dinosaur that I am.

Same. Euphemisms for death annoy the hell out of me.

Originally Posted by lionking

I do. Australia would never had conducted a republic referendum while Betty was alive. You can put your house on a referendum quite soon.

If we can keep the band of idiot christian conservatives out of government here next year, I think we might even manage that.

[lionking]

Originally Posted by novaphile

Eh? What?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_A...lic_referendum

Of course I knew about that, and one of the findings about that exercise was that holding a referendum while the Queen was alive was always going to backfire. I think most here knew what I was getting at.

[arthwollipot]

Originally Posted by novaphile

Eh? What?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_A...lic_referendum

Discussion here:

The Australian Choice Model - Proposed republic's constitution

The tl;dr is that there is a new Republican model, which has a realistic possibility of being agreed to in a new referendum.

[arthwollipot]

Originally Posted by The Atheist

That has to be John Cooper Clark?

The Beatles.

[angrysoba]

Originally Posted by The Atheist

That has to be John Cooper Clark?

Seriously? You've never listened to Abbey Road?

[dudalb]

And, in the least surprising development, Biden says he almost certainly will be attedning the funeral.
As will most heads of state, I suspect.
Which will, of course, create a security headache for whoever in in charge of security in London.

[dudalb]

Originally Posted by angrysoba

Seriously? You've never listened to Abbey Road?

'Her Majesty's A pretty nice girl"....

Or Mean Mr Mustard going to see the queen and then shouting something obscene.

[Regnad Kcin]

Originally Posted by shemp

Does anybody know if Reggie Jackson has an alibi for this?

You’re my hero.

[theprestige]

Originally Posted by dudalb

And, in the least surprising development, Biden says he almost certainly will be attedning the funeral.
As will most heads of state, I suspect.
Which will, of course, create a security headache for whoever in in charge of security in London.

You'd think this would be a walk in the park for whoever is in charge of security in London. They must have known for decades that it was coming. It must be pretty similar to other security events they've handled in that storied city. They must have a binder spelling out most of the details. They must have executed or rehearsed most of the protocols many times already.

If this is going to be a special headache for them, how did they even get the job?

[Blue Mountain]

Originally Posted by Vixen

Grrrrrrr.

Don't you just hate they are calling it 'the passing of the Queen'.

Just say, 'death', dang you.

Did she pass you in the street? No. Did she pass an exam? No. Did she pass a driving test. Er, yes.

But as the Liverpudlian famously said, on seeing a lifeless dog in the street, "The ******'s de-eed'.

Here in Canada, the CBC was a bit more direct:

Queen Elizabeth, Canada's head of state, dead at 96

Much the same for CTV:

Queen Elizabeth II dead at 96 after 70 years on the throne

Personally I'd prefer the wording to be "has died," but "dead" is spot-on accurate.

[Norman Alexander]

Just a curious note: Elizabeth II started and ended her monarchy outside of the country of England.

She was in Kenya when her father, George VI, died and she became queen.

She was in Scotland when she died, and Charles became king.

[arthwollipot]

Originally Posted by theprestige

You'd think this would be a walk in the park for whoever is in charge of security in London. They must have known for decades that it was coming. It must be pretty similar to other security events they've handled in that storied city. They must have a binder spelling out most of the details. They must have executed or rehearsed most of the protocols many times already.

If this is going to be a special headache for them, how did they even get the job?

It's called Operation London Bridge. Operation Unicorn is the process by which the body will be transported from Scotland back to London.

[Worm]

Originally Posted by arthwollipot

It's called Operation London Bridge. Operation Unicorn is the process by which the body will be transported from Scotland back to London.

It's all very much planned for, and there have been regulr meetings over the years. Mrs Worm is tangetially involved in Operation Unicorn, in an incredibly minor way, and apparently one of the issues is that virtually no budget has been assigned to Operation Uniorn due to cost cutting, to the point where local authorities along the planned mourning route may not even have enough barriers for crowd management.

[Robin]

Elizabeth Mountbatten died quietly at home surrounded by her family. Her passing is mourned by her family and friends as well as millions of fans around the world.

She was known for her impish sense of humour and for being the Queen of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and of various Commonwealth countries, a role in which she is generally agreed to have excelled.

[Robin]

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Just a curious note: Elizabeth II started and ended her monarchy outside of the country of England.

She was in Kenya when her father, George VI, died and she became queen.

She was in Scotland when she died, and Charles became king.

She spent a good deal of her life in Scotland so it is no surprise she would spend her last days there.

To put it another way, she died in her home country, the UK.

[Robin]

Any early odds on whether the next monarch will be crowned as KCIII or KGVII?

[arthwollipot]

Originally Posted by Robin

Any early odds on whether the next monarch will be crowned as KCIII or KGVII?

He's already the former.

[theprestige]

This would have been awesome if it were the first and only thread about it. As it is, though? Lame. You had a once in a lifetime opportunity, and you blew it.

[theprestige]

At least you didn't spell it "deeth" in the title.

[TheGoldcountry]

I may be wrong, but I don't think she's considered a Mountbatten even though she married one. I think she was always a Windsor.

[Wildy]

We can just call him "Charles 'The Old' ".

[Puppycow]

Don't know if anyone cares, but now Louis XIV's record remains safe for the foreseeable future. Charles III certainly won't beat it.

[arthwollipot]

Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry

I may be wrong, but I don't think she's considered a Mountbatten even though she married one. I think she was always a Windsor.

Technically I believe her surname is "Mountbatten-Windsor".

[TragicMonkey]

Originally Posted by TheGoldcountry

I may be wrong, but I don't think she's considered a Mountbatten even though she married one. I think she was always a Windsor.

I'm pretty sure both of those things are cakes. One's also a way to tie ties.

[Wildy]

And together they are cake ties.

[Norman Alexander]

Originally Posted by Robin

Any early odds on whether the next monarch will be crowned as KCIII or KGVII?

C3PO

[Norman Alexander]

Originally Posted by Robin

She spent a good deal of her life in Scotland so it is no surprise she would spend her last days there.

To put it another way, she died in her home country, the UK.

Really? OK, then. UK = a united kingdom. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland = countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countr...United_Kingdom

[Orphia Nay]

The news is the only news to be shown on Australia's national channel, the ABC, today, unless they had headlines while I was out for an hour. In fact, its coverage is the only program on all day.

[Orphia Nay]

I liked this take.

[arthwollipot]

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

The news is the only news to be shown on Australia's national channel, the ABC, today, unless they had headlines while I was out for an hour. In fact, its coverage is the only program on all day.

There is other news on the ABC website. There's an article about the first uterus transplant, and one about dangerous travel cots. Something something political transparency and some Covid numbers.

[Robin]

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Really? OK, then. UK = a united kingdom. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland = countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Countr...United_Kingdom

Maybe you should have read a little further in your own link:

"The UK Prime Minister's website has used the phrase "countries within a country" to describe the United Kingdom."

My point stands.

[Robin]

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Don't know if anyone cares, but now Louis XIV's record remains safe for the foreseeable future. Charles III certainly won't beat it.

I have heard him say that he will take the regnal name 'George' which would take the Georges to the halfway point at least.

[Bob001]

Originally Posted by Robin

I have heard him say that he will take the regnal name 'George' which would take the Georges to the halfway point at least.

Why would he change the name he has lived with for 70+ years? What has been the practice with past monarchs?

[Bob001]

Question: The Queen greeted the new PM Tuesday afternoon in the traditional manner. She wasn't bedridden, she wasn't in a wheelchair, no one has claimed that she appeared impaired. By Thursday she was dead. That's an awfully speedy departure. No one has suggested that she had a heart attack or a stroke or was hit by a bus. No one has claimed that she had a severe long-term illness like cancer that could turn south abruptly. Is there any serious speculation that she might have been assisted?

[Ron Swanson]

When was in School, from grade one to 13 (in Canada) we either sang or at least stood at attention and listened to "God save the Queen" ..

Even the "tough guys" in highschool never batted an eye, and stood quietly while the song played over the schools PA system.

I remember in early grade school (two room school house) our music readers had the "King" lined out and "Queen" carefully penned above it

Im Highschool our Homeroom teacher was The Coach, and when he had to go to away games, he left me in charge of the class,

The students would get noisey, near the end of "The Announcements" but every one stood quiet, for the Lord's Prayer, and God save the Queen

[Puppycow]

Originally Posted by Orphia Nay

The news is the only news to be shown on Australia's national channel, the ABC, today, unless they had headlines while I was out for an hour. In fact, its coverage is the only program on all day.

It's pretty much the only news on Japanese TV too. Perhaps with a brief pause for the weather.

[Puppycow]

Originally Posted by Robin

I have heard him say that he will take the regnal name 'George' which would take the Georges to the halfway point at least.

I was talking about length of reign. Not sure what you mean. There were 16 King Louis of France, but Louis XIV had the longest reign (over 72 years, as he was only a small child when he inherited the throne). Elizabeth II fell short of his record by over a year. She inherited the throne from her father at the age of 26. In the future, assuming longer life expectancies for reigning monarchs, it will be very unlikely for anyone to again seriously challenge that record. Prince William is already 40, 14 years older than Elizabeth II was when she ascended. It would take a couple of untimely deaths for it to fall to someone younger than 30 again.

[a_unique_person]

The queen inspects a row of sheep bums.

https://www.theguardian.com/australi...droidApp_Other

[Filippo Lippi]

Politics? I suppose it will end up that way

[Francesca R]

Bit rough on the late Her Maj to be shunted in to politics, IIRC her only foray in that direction was telling Scottish voters to be careful in 2014