[Merged] UK Queen dead? Dying?/Liz Mountbatten's death - Page 9

Samson · 9th September 2022, 12:58 AM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

Oh FFS!

On another forum one of my internet alter egos frequents, on which politics is not allowed to be discussed, there is such an outpouring of sycophantic, myth-swallowing bollocks...And all from non-Brits, who, of course, know everything.

This is part of what pisses me off about the whole circus: hello other parts of the world, if you like this bunch so much, please take them...

You should like this story and audio from the colonies then lol

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/queen-...DIZTSKUXPOBYU/

Radio host Mike Hosking had to gather himself for a few moments on live radio when news broke that Queen Elizabeth II had died.

As wife and fellow Newstalk ZB broadcaster Kate Hawkesby crossed to Hosking - shortly before his programme was due to start - she said: "Very sad day indeed ... the Queen dying at age 96. Mike Hosking - nobody loves the Queen more than you and I."

"Oh don't," Hosking can be heard saying with an audible sniff.

Hawkesby replies: "It's very upsetting isn't it? We're royalists, aren't we? I mean, it's an end of an era."

Hosking can then be heard sobbing softly.

"I don't know that I can - just give me a couple of minutes."

lionking · 9th September 2022, 01:02 AM

Monarchists **** me.

TofuFighter · 9th September 2022, 01:19 AM

"She might be the greatest representative of most of our lifetimes in terms of dedication, consistency and loyalty."

Fair enough. The end of an era.

arthwollipot · 9th September 2022, 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by lionking

Monarchists **** me.

One can admire the person without being a fan of the institution she represents. That's what I meant by being an Elizabethan, but not a monarchist.

Filippo Lippi · 9th September 2022, 01:34 AM

I thought it was an invitation, but maybe to the wrong crowd

Worm · 9th September 2022, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Why would he change the name he has lived with for 70+ years? What has been the practice with past monarchs?

Probably a moot point, as it's pretty much 100% confirmed he will be titled King Charles III.

Past monarchs have changed their regnal name - though it's not common. Edward VII was christened Albert, called 'Bertie' by his family, George VI was also Albert (maybe they just don't fancy the sound of King Albert?) and perhaps most famously, Queen Victoira was actaully christened Alexandrina.

Puppycow · 9th September 2022, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by Worm

and perhaps most famously, Queen Victoira was actaully christened Alexandrina.

And a good thing too, or else we wouldn't have words like "Victorian" (or it would be "Alexandrinian"?

Rolfe · 9th September 2022, 02:26 AM

Mourning route? Oh hell, there's a good chance the village where I live is on that. Can't they just shove her on a plane?

As far as this all being planned for is concerned, you'd think so, wouldn't you? Just like you'd think a serious pandemic would be planned for...

catsmate · 9th September 2022, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by TragicMonkey

Do all the current barrister silks have to get new business cards saying "K.C." or do they keep "Q.C." and only the next batch onward are "K.C."?

They are now all KCs, as they are technically counsel to the monarch. I suspect there will be some rebranding. Time to go gender neutral?
But think of the stamps, and banknotes....

catsmate · 9th September 2022, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by lionking

I do. Australia would never had conducted a republic referendum while Betty was alive. You can put your house on a referendum quite soon.

Jamaica will be first I suspect.

lionking · 9th September 2022, 02:29 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

And a good thing too, or else we wouldn't have words like "Victorian" (or it would be "Alexandrinian"?

Well in my state of Victoria (easy spelling) would require a lot of correcting of spelling if named Alexandrina. A bit like having to continually correct the spelling of Massachusetts…..

Sorry a bit OT.

catsmate · 9th September 2022, 02:30 AM

Originally Posted by mumblethrax

What's to discuss? They've had 70 years to work out a plan.

There first plans date back almost that long ('56 I think) and see updates at least twice a year.

Norman Alexander · 9th September 2022, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by Robin

Maybe you should have read a little further in your own link:

"The UK Prime Minister's website has used the phrase "countries within a country" to describe the United Kingdom."

My point stands.

Ah, so not official, then. Just a convenient phrase. Glad we sorted that out. (yes, I read the whole article)

Puppycow · 9th September 2022, 02:43 AM

Originally Posted by lionking

Well in my state of Victoria (easy spelling) would require a lot of correcting of spelling if named Alexandrina. A bit like having to continually correct the spelling of Massachusetts…..

Sorry a bit OT.

Huh, it never even crossed my mind, but now that you mention it, obviously it was named after Queen Victoria, right?

lionking · 9th September 2022, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by Puppycow

Huh, it never even crossed my mind, but now that you mention it, obviously it was named after Queen Victoria, right?

Indeed it was. And in probably mid 20th century it was a very Victorian state. Thankfully, no longer.

a_unique_person · 9th September 2022, 02:50 AM

I know that somewhere out there, there is an expert of the Royal family droning on for hours about how she was as good as jesus christ himself.

Norman Alexander · 9th September 2022, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by lionking

Indeed it was. And in probably mid 20th century it was a very Victorian state. Thankfully, no longer.

Queensland also, but with a more obvious name so the locals understood.

Dave Rogers · 9th September 2022, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate

I suspect there will be some rebranding. Time to go gender neutral?

Monarch's Counsel might be a bit confusing...

Dave

The Don · 9th September 2022, 02:54 AM

Originally Posted by catsmate

They are now all KCs, as they are technically counsel to the monarch. I suspect there will be some rebranding. Time to go gender neutral?
But think of the stamps, and banknotes....

I can remember back in the '70s when, post decimalisation, shillings (5 new pence) and florins (10 new pence) were still in circulation. From time to time you'd find a late period George VI coin in your change.

Very, very rarely you'd find a pre-1947 coin but these were 50% silver (92.5% pre 1920) and so were much more highly prized.

Somewhere in some box I've got a small bag of these old coins gleaned from change as a child.

I suspect the first Charles III coins will briefly become collectors' items but the currency transition in the UK will take years, possibly decades. The Elizabethan coinage IMO will only be actively "retired" when there is a change in format. Our notes are very new and so I expect to be using notes with the Queen's head on them for a long time (not that I use much cash these days

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lionking · 9th September 2022, 02:59 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

Somewhere in some box I've got a small bag of these old coins gleaned from change as a child.

As someone who inherited a large number of pre-decimal coins (we changed in 1966) I suspect they are worth far less than what you imagine. You have a bag of these coins, so do I and millions of others….

The Don · 9th September 2022, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by lionking

As someone who inherited a large number of pre-decimal coins (we changed in 1966) I suspect they are worth far less than what you imagine. You have a bag of these coins, so do I and millions of others….

The only ones I kept were the ones with 50% or more silver content - so around £2 a coin for a florin, £1 for a shilling bullion value.

All in, I probably have almost £30 worth

lionking · 9th September 2022, 03:06 AM

Originally Posted by The Don

The only ones I kept were the ones with 50% or more silver content - so around £2 a coin for a florin, £1 for a shilling bullion value.

All in, I probably have almost £30 worth

Yes correct. We once had a large (the largest of all our coins) 50c silver coin. The price of the silver soon exceeded the exchange rate.

On the other hand a 1940 Australian penny in good condition sells for $1700.

Filippo Lippi · 9th September 2022, 03:24 AM

A silver sixpence rolled up to me in Boots in the Broad Marsh shopping centre in Nottingham, must have been about 1978. I stopped it with my foot, picked it up, and had just worked out what it was when a woman snatched it out of my finger and thumb, thanked me, then disappeared.

Vixen · 9th September 2022, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by Bob001

Question: The Queen greeted the new PM Tuesday afternoon in the traditional manner. She wasn't bedridden, she wasn't in a wheelchair, no one has claimed that she appeared impaired. By Thursday she was dead. That's an awfully speedy departure. No one has suggested that she had a heart attack or a stroke or was hit by a bus. No one has claimed that she had a severe long-term illness like cancer that could turn south abruptly. Is there any serious speculation that she might have been assisted?

I saw a rumour that she had had a fall, hence the suddenness. In addition, she seemed to have rapidly lost a lot of weight, which could point to cancer.

Darat · 9th September 2022, 03:46 AM

Originally Posted by Ron Obvious

I've noticed the same thing. Can someone tell me if "passed away" has become offensive yet? I can't seem to keep up with these things.

I still say "died", the dinosaur that I am.

You do know that is the modern way to announce a death?

Regnad Kcin · 9th September 2022, 03:49 AM

I wonder if they’ll have an estate sale.

The Atheist · 9th September 2022, 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

Seriously? You've never listened to Abbey Road?

Nope, not my kind of music.

In other news, it looks like the Queen's still dead.

Originally Posted by lionking

Monarchists **** me.

Mike Hosking is a right-wing moron, and I'd lay odds he was putting it on for his listeners, who would be monarchists almost to a Zimmer frame.

Originally Posted by Robin

I have heard him say that he will take the regnal name 'George' which would take the Georges to the halfway point at least.

Given Charlie I being executed and #II poisoning himself with mercury, I'd have thought Charles wasn't an idea regnal name. Plenty of precedent for changing it.

Rolfe · 9th September 2022, 03:55 AM

I used to have a couple of Victorian "bun pennies" with the date of 1866. I thought they must be common because I came across more than one of the same date. They were already 100 years old when they showed up in my purse when I was a schoolgirl.

Carrot Flower King · 9th September 2022, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by Rolfe

Mourning route? Oh hell, there's a good chance the village where I live is on that. Can't they just shove her on a plane?

As far as this all being planned for is concerned, you'd think so, wouldn't you? Just like you'd think a serious pandemic would be planned for...

I'm having visions of Northumberland being closed or somesuch, as if they are driving Brenda from St Giles down to That London they'll be coming this way...

Still at least that bit will be over by the time we head to Fife at the end of the month.

Vixen · 9th September 2022, 03:57 AM

Will we be told what the cause of death was? I doubt it. We are expected to believe that Royalty never needs to go to the toilet or suffer undignified deaths the way mere mortals do. The Queen was so fit, why, she only needed a walking stick to support herself and in her final days, the only problem was 'mobility' issues.

Darat · 9th September 2022, 03:58 AM

Originally Posted by dudalb

That's the problem. He does not have a good personality.
Maybe he can find somebody who can cover for him the way that QE2 did with the Queen Mother who was much beloved by people and had the warmth that Liz did not, until her later years, show.

Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother warm?

Carrot Flower King · 9th September 2022, 04:00 AM

Originally Posted by angrysoba

Seriously? You've never listened to Abbey Road?

Years ago: did not like it one bit, so haven't gone near it since, despite it seeming to be law in cartain quarters elsewhere on the internet that one must love The Be-atles (sic) and acknowledge that they invented everything.

I just figured it was some odd pop cultural reference I didn't understand (bit like most of mine will be for many folk).

Filippo Lippi · 9th September 2022, 04:04 AM

Football's off.

Vixen · 9th September 2022, 04:08 AM

Being somewhat of a philatelist myself, I have a load of Charles and Camilla wedding stamps which I hoped to sell on Ebay with other collectors. Nobody at all was interested in them. I wonder whether they will be at all saleable now that the pair are to be King and Queen consort?

Darat · 9th September 2022, 04:10 AM

Originally Posted by Vixen

Will we be told what the cause of death was? I doubt it. We are expected to believe that Royalty never needs to go to the toilet or suffer undignified deaths the way mere mortals do. The Queen was so fit, why, she only needed a walking stick to support herself and in her final days, the only problem was 'mobility' issues.

Death certificates are public documents….

Vixen · 9th September 2022, 04:13 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

Death certificates are public documents….

Prince Philp's cause of death says 'Old Age'.

Worm · 9th September 2022, 04:14 AM

Can't find it again now, but saw a report that the previously planned route of returning the Queen's body to London, via the Royal train, will now not go ahead, and the RAF will fly her down. Security considered to be an issue on a long journey apparently.

Darat · 9th September 2022, 04:17 AM

Originally Posted by Vixen

Prince Philp's cause of death says 'Old Age'.

And Margaret’s didn’t mention her advanced syphilis.

Warp12 · 9th September 2022, 04:30 AM

Nevermind.

Rolfe · 9th September 2022, 04:48 AM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

I'm having visions of Northumberland being closed or somesuch, as if they are driving Brenda from St Giles down to That London they'll be coming this way...

Still at least that bit will be over by the time we head to Fife at the end of the month.

It would depend on the route, but the village where I live is on the A702, the main road from Edinburgh to London. They may go further east though. I doubt if they'll go the M74.

9th September 2022, 12:58 AM	#321
Samson Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,737	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King Oh FFS! On another forum one of my internet alter egos frequents, on which politics is not allowed to be discussed, there is such an outpouring of sycophantic, myth-swallowing bollocks...And all from non-Brits, who, of course, know everything. This is part of what pisses me off about the whole circus: hello other parts of the world, if you like this bunch so much, please take them... You should like this story and audio from the colonies then lol https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/queen-...DIZTSKUXPOBYU/ Radio host Mike Hosking had to gather himself for a few moments on live radio when news broke that Queen Elizabeth II had died. As wife and fellow Newstalk ZB broadcaster Kate Hawkesby crossed to Hosking - shortly before his programme was due to start - she said: "Very sad day indeed ... the Queen dying at age 96. Mike Hosking - nobody loves the Queen more than you and I." "Oh don't," Hosking can be heard saying with an audible sniff. Hawkesby replies: "It's very upsetting isn't it? We're royalists, aren't we? I mean, it's an end of an era." Hosking can then be heard sobbing softly. "I don't know that I can - just give me a couple of minutes."
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9th September 2022, 01:02 AM	#322
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9th September 2022, 01:19 AM	#323
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9th September 2022, 01:30 AM	#324
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9th September 2022, 01:34 AM	#325
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9th September 2022, 01:47 AM	#326
Worm Illuminator Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Dundee Posts: 3,522	Originally Posted by Bob001 Why would he change the name he has lived with for 70+ years? What has been the practice with past monarchs? Probably a moot point, as it's pretty much 100% confirmed he will be titled King Charles III. Past monarchs have changed their regnal name - though it's not common. Edward VII was christened Albert, called 'Bertie' by his family, George VI was also Albert (maybe they just don't fancy the sound of King Albert?) and perhaps most famously, Queen Victoira was actaully christened Alexandrina.
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9th September 2022, 01:55 AM	#327
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 27,967	Originally Posted by Worm and perhaps most famously, Queen Victoira was actaully christened Alexandrina. And a good thing too, or else we wouldn't have words like "Victorian" (or it would be "Alexandrinian"?
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9th September 2022, 02:26 AM	#328
Rolfe Adult human female Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 50,593	Mourning route? Oh hell, there's a good chance the village where I live is on that. Can't they just shove her on a plane? As far as this all being planned for is concerned, you'd think so, wouldn't you? Just like you'd think a serious pandemic would be planned for...
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9th September 2022, 02:27 AM	#329
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 28,617	Originally Posted by TragicMonkey Do all the current barrister silks have to get new business cards saying "K.C." or do they keep "Q.C." and only the next batch onward are "K.C."? They are now all KCs, as they are technically counsel to the monarch. I suspect there will be some rebranding. Time to go gender neutral? But think of the stamps, and banknotes....
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9th September 2022, 02:28 AM	#330
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 28,617	Originally Posted by lionking I do. Australia would never had conducted a republic referendum while Betty was alive. You can put your house on a referendum quite soon. Jamaica will be first I suspect.
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9th September 2022, 02:29 AM	#331
lionking In the Peanut Gallery Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 53,483	Originally Posted by Puppycow And a good thing too, or else we wouldn't have words like "Victorian" (or it would be "Alexandrinian"? Well in my state of Victoria (easy spelling) would require a lot of correcting of spelling if named Alexandrina. A bit like having to continually correct the spelling of Massachusetts….. Sorry a bit OT.
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9th September 2022, 02:30 AM	#332
catsmate No longer the 1 Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 28,617	Originally Posted by mumblethrax What's to discuss? They've had 70 years to work out a plan. There first plans date back almost that long ('56 I think) and see updates at least twice a year.
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9th September 2022, 02:43 AM	#333
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,989	Originally Posted by Robin Maybe you should have read a little further in your own link: "The UK Prime Minister's website has used the phrase "countries within a country" to describe the United Kingdom." My point stands. Ah, so not official, then. Just a convenient phrase. Glad we sorted that out. (yes, I read the whole article)
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9th September 2022, 02:43 AM	#334
Puppycow Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Yokohama, Japan Posts: 27,967	Originally Posted by lionking Well in my state of Victoria (easy spelling) would require a lot of correcting of spelling if named Alexandrina. A bit like having to continually correct the spelling of Massachusetts….. Sorry a bit OT. Huh, it never even crossed my mind, but now that you mention it, obviously it was named after Queen Victoria, right?
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9th September 2022, 02:47 AM	#335
lionking In the Peanut Gallery Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 53,483	Originally Posted by Puppycow Huh, it never even crossed my mind, but now that you mention it, obviously it was named after Queen Victoria, right? Indeed it was. And in probably mid 20th century it was a very Victorian state. Thankfully, no longer.
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9th September 2022, 02:50 AM	#336
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9th September 2022, 02:51 AM	#337
Norman Alexander Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Dharug & Gundungurra Posts: 14,989	Originally Posted by lionking Indeed it was. And in probably mid 20th century it was a very Victorian state. Thankfully, no longer. Queensland also, but with a more obvious name so the locals understood.
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9th September 2022, 02:51 AM	#338
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9th September 2022, 02:54 AM	#339
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,618	Originally Posted by catsmate They are now all KCs, as they are technically counsel to the monarch. I suspect there will be some rebranding. Time to go gender neutral? But think of the stamps, and banknotes.... I can remember back in the '70s when, post decimalisation, shillings (5 new pence) and florins (10 new pence) were still in circulation. From time to time you'd find a late period George VI coin in your change. Very, very rarely you'd find a pre-1947 coin but these were 50% silver (92.5% pre 1920) and so were much more highly prized. Somewhere in some box I've got a small bag of these old coins gleaned from change as a child. I suspect the first Charles III coins will briefly become collectors' items but the currency transition in the UK will take years, possibly decades. The Elizabethan coinage IMO will only be actively "retired" when there is a change in format. Our notes are very new and so I expect to be using notes with the Queen's head on them for a long time (not that I use much cash these days )

9th September 2022, 02:59 AM	#340
lionking In the Peanut Gallery Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 53,483	Originally Posted by The Don Somewhere in some box I've got a small bag of these old coins gleaned from change as a child. As someone who inherited a large number of pre-decimal coins (we changed in 1966) I suspect they are worth far less than what you imagine. You have a bag of these coins, so do I and millions of others….
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9th September 2022, 03:00 AM	#341
The Don Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sir Fynwy Posts: 36,618	Originally Posted by lionking As someone who inherited a large number of pre-decimal coins (we changed in 1966) I suspect they are worth far less than what you imagine. You have a bag of these coins, so do I and millions of others…. The only ones I kept were the ones with 50% or more silver content - so around £2 a coin for a florin, £1 for a shilling bullion value. All in, I probably have almost £30 worth
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9th September 2022, 03:06 AM	#342
lionking In the Peanut Gallery Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 53,483	Originally Posted by The Don The only ones I kept were the ones with 50% or more silver content - so around £2 a coin for a florin, £1 for a shilling bullion value. All in, I probably have almost £30 worth Yes correct. We once had a large (the largest of all our coins) 50c silver coin. The price of the silver soon exceeded the exchange rate. On the other hand a 1940 Australian penny in good condition sells for $1700.
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9th September 2022, 03:24 AM	#343
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9th September 2022, 03:39 AM	#344
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 32,715	Originally Posted by Bob001 Question: The Queen greeted the new PM Tuesday afternoon in the traditional manner. She wasn't bedridden, she wasn't in a wheelchair, no one has claimed that she appeared impaired. By Thursday she was dead. That's an awfully speedy departure. No one has suggested that she had a heart attack or a stroke or was hit by a bus. No one has claimed that she had a severe long-term illness like cancer that could turn south abruptly. Is there any serious speculation that she might have been assisted? I saw a rumour that she had had a fall, hence the suddenness. In addition, she seemed to have rapidly lost a lot of weight, which could point to cancer.
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9th September 2022, 03:46 AM	#345
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 109,646	Originally Posted by Ron Obvious I've noticed the same thing. Can someone tell me if "passed away" has become offensive yet? I can't seem to keep up with these things. I still say "died", the dinosaur that I am. You do know that is the modern way to announce a death?
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9th September 2022, 03:49 AM	#346
Regnad Kcin Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: The old Same place Posts: 10,842	I wonder if they’ll have an estate sale.
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9th September 2022, 03:51 AM	#347
The Atheist The Grammar Tyrant Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 33,607	Originally Posted by angrysoba Seriously? You've never listened to Abbey Road? Nope, not my kind of music. In other news, it looks like the Queen's still dead. Originally Posted by lionking Monarchists ** me. Mike Hosking is a right-wing moron, and I'd lay odds he was putting it on for his listeners, who would be monarchists almost to a Zimmer frame. Originally Posted by Robin** I have heard him say that he will take the regnal name 'George' which would take the Georges to the halfway point at least. Given Charlie I being executed and #II poisoning himself with mercury, I'd have thought Charles wasn't an idea regnal name. Plenty of precedent for changing it.
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9th September 2022, 03:55 AM	#348
Rolfe Adult human female Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NT 150 511 Posts: 50,593	I used to have a couple of Victorian "bun pennies" with the date of 1866. I thought they must be common because I came across more than one of the same date. They were already 100 years old when they showed up in my purse when I was a schoolgirl.
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9th September 2022, 03:57 AM	#349
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,728	Originally Posted by Rolfe Mourning route? Oh hell, there's a good chance the village where I live is on that. Can't they just shove her on a plane? As far as this all being planned for is concerned, you'd think so, wouldn't you? Just like you'd think a serious pandemic would be planned for... I'm having visions of Northumberland being closed or somesuch, as if they are driving Brenda from St Giles down to That London they'll be coming this way... Still at least that bit will be over by the time we head to Fife at the end of the month.

9th September 2022, 03:57 AM	#350
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 32,715	Will we be told what the cause of death was? I doubt it. We are expected to believe that Royalty never needs to go to the toilet or suffer undignified deaths the way mere mortals do. The Queen was so fit, why, she only needed a walking stick to support herself and in her final days, the only problem was 'mobility' issues.
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9th September 2022, 03:58 AM	#351
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 109,646	Originally Posted by dudalb That's the problem. He does not have a good personality. Maybe he can find somebody who can cover for him the way that QE2 did with the Queen Mother who was much beloved by people and had the warmth that Liz did not, until her later years, show. Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother warm?
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9th September 2022, 04:00 AM	#352
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,728	Originally Posted by angrysoba Seriously? You've never listened to Abbey Road? Years ago: did not like it one bit, so haven't gone near it since, despite it seeming to be law in cartain quarters elsewhere on the internet that one must love The Be-atles (sic) and acknowledge that they invented everything. I just figured it was some odd pop cultural reference I didn't understand (bit like most of mine will be for many folk).

9th September 2022, 04:04 AM	#353
Filippo Lippi Illuminator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 4,377	Football's off.
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9th September 2022, 04:08 AM	#354
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 32,715	Being somewhat of a philatelist myself, I have a load of Charles and Camilla wedding stamps which I hoped to sell on Ebay with other collectors. Nobody at all was interested in them. I wonder whether they will be at all saleable now that the pair are to be King and Queen consort?
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9th September 2022, 04:10 AM	#355
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 109,646	Originally Posted by Vixen Will we be told what the cause of death was? I doubt it. We are expected to believe that Royalty never needs to go to the toilet or suffer undignified deaths the way mere mortals do. The Queen was so fit, why, she only needed a walking stick to support herself and in her final days, the only problem was 'mobility' issues. Death certificates are public documents….
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