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Old 5th January 2022, 02:21 PM   #241
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
is it just me, or would that not violate all kinds of laws about making money from things taxpayers paid for?
I don't know. I don't think there's a clothing allowance which would mean she bought the hat, I doubt we commissioned the painting and if she owns it (as in it was gifted after leaving the WH) she can NFT it to her heart's content.
I'd agree it all feels a tad shabby... but we did at one time have Billy Beer.
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Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
I don't know. I don't think there's a clothing allowance which would mean she bought the hat, I doubt we commissioned the painting and if she owns it (as in it was gifted after leaving the WH) she can NFT it to her heart's content.
I'd agree it all feels a tad shabby... but we did at one time have Billy Beer.
Billy Beer was the creation of Bill Clinton's brother. As he had no role in the administration, that law did not apply to him.
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Billy Beer was the creation of Bill Clinton's brother. As he had no role in the administration, that law did not apply to him.
Quite true, but... that wasn't my point.
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Billy Beer was the creation of Bill Clinton's brother. As he had no role in the administration, that law did not apply to him.
Jimmy Carter's brother.
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Originally Posted by slyjoe View Post
Jimmy Carter's brother.
Nice, that slid right past my brain as well.
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
Trump's probably going to watch the rerun on TV tomorrow, saying "Look at all those people fighting for me!"
And think it's live.
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Old 6th January 2022, 12:17 AM   #247
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Originally Posted by slyjoe View Post
Jimmy Carter's brother.
Ah crap....you're right! Getting old sucks.

Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
Nice, that slid right past my brain as well.
Welcome to the club. At least I'm not the only one. Time for my Prevagen.

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Originally Posted by Jim_MDP View Post
Nice, that slid right past my brain as well.
Ditto.
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The Trumps (you know, the people who are supposedly billionaires) are finding new ways to make money...

From: Politico
The former U.S. first lady announced...she will hold an auction called The Head of State Collection featuring three items: the “iconic broad-brimmed, one-of-a-kind hat” that she wore when Emmanuel and Brigitte Macron visited the White House...a watercolor of her wearing the same hat by French artist Marc-Antoine Coulon; and a digital version of that same artwork (in the form of a non-fungible token, or NFT).

Is it just me, or does it seem weird (and a little cheesy) that the former first family is going after such sales (which would seem rather "tiny" for people that are supposedly billionaires).
Remember, to these folks there are two kinds of currency: $US and media attention.

Plus we don’t know how many NFTs the Republican National Committee is going to buy.
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Ah Biden. So nice to see a US President who can speak coherently, use words properly and string those words into sentences that carry ideas. Something of a difference from "the former president".
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
Ah crap....you're right! Getting old sucks.



Welcome to the club. At least I'm not the only one. Time for my Prevagen.
Be careful, that may make you have an uncontrollable outburst of racism!
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Trump's probably going to watch the rerun on TV tomorrow, saying "Look at all those people fighting for me!"
According to Stephanie Grisham, that's exactly what he said on the day he watched it live!
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Ah Biden. So nice to see a US President who can speak coherently, use words properly and string those words into sentences that carry ideas. Something of a difference from "the former president".
I hear he can even drink water from a glass with one hand!
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Grisham thinks you can have America First without Trump. Ha ha ha!

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/06/polit...ntv/index.html
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
According to Stephanie Grisham, that's exactly what he said on the day he watched it live!
Former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham tells CNN that during the attack on the Capitol, Trump was "gleefully" watching the riot from the White House dining room.

She said he kept hitting rewind and saying, "Look at all those people fighting for me."
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There is a story in the current New Yorker titled, "Is a Civil War Ahead?"

If Hillary Clinton had won in 2016 I don't think that article would have been published. The idea would have seemed ridiculous. This is what donald trump did for the United States. Maybe his biggest accomplishment. Leave people worrying and wondering if a Civil War -- or what Marjorie Taylor Greene calls a "National Divorce" -- is in our future.

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Former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said she is personally hoping to "travel the country and talk to people who are believers like I once was" and "explain who (Trump) really is," also calling the former President a "master manipulator."

"I'm hoping that people will talk to somebody like me or some of these other people who really did believe in Trump and understand you can be proud of his policies, you can still be behind a lot of the America First policies that he implemented, which I am, but it doesn't have to be him. It just doesn't have to be this man who has caused such chaos and destruction in the country," she told CNN." link to article on CNN
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Grisham thinks you can have America First without Trump. Ha ha ha!

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/06/polit...ntv/index.html
That particular article has the following :

Former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said Thursday that more than a dozen of her former Trump administration colleagues plan to meet next week to try and stop former President Donald Trump as he continues to "manipulate people and divide our country."

I'm kind of split on this sort of thing....

On one hand, it is good to see opposition to Trump growing, and including people who were former associates (so you can say that its more than just "the libs" who think Trump is a problem.)

On the other hand, I sometimes want to smack these type of people around. They knew what Trump was like even before the 2016 election. They knew he was a racist. They knew he had anti-democracy/authoritarian leanings (telling his cult members he would support them if they attacked protesters, saying that he might not accept the election results if he lost. etc.) And many of them continued to work for him even past the 2020 election... after he had tried to blackmail a foreign government to help get elected, after he had protesters tear-gassed for a photo-op, etc. They looked at all that, and decided "yup that's the guy we want as president". And now, after they gave their stamp of approval to Trump for all those years, they pretend they are upset just because he continues doing pretty much the same stuff post-2021 that he was doing for the past half-decade (that they thought was perfectly acceptable).
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That particular article has the following :

Former White House press secretary Stephanie Grisham said Thursday that more than a dozen of her former Trump administration colleagues plan to meet next week to try and stop former President Donald Trump as he continues to "manipulate people and divide our country."

I'm kind of split on this sort of thing....

On one hand, it is good to see opposition to Trump growing, and including people who were former associates (so you can say that its more than just "the libs" who think Trump is a problem.)

On the other hand, I sometimes want to smack these type of people around. They knew what Trump was like even before the 2016 election. They knew he was a racist. They knew he had anti-democracy/authoritarian leanings (telling his cult members he would support them if they attacked protesters, saying that he might not accept the election results if he lost. etc.) And many of them continued to work for him even past the 2020 election... after he had tried to blackmail a foreign government to help get elected, after he had protesters tear-gassed for a photo-op, etc. They looked at all that, and decided "yup that's the guy we want as president". And now, after they gave their stamp of approval to Trump for all those years, they pretend they are upset just because he continues doing pretty much the same stuff post-2021 that he was doing for the past half-decade (that they thought was perfectly acceptable).
I agree wholeheartedly with this. This is where consequences for actions would have an effect. The worst part is they are a multiplier; the likes of Hannity et al at Fox news play the same game but affect a lot more people than nutty congressmen.
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I agree they're very smackable but there they are, like it or not, and if they, owing to their disreputable past, can help dissuade those who have not given up the lies and the scams, then I'm quite willing to forego the smacks and wish them bon voyage. Do the right thing and we'll worry about why later.

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trump's slew of 'statements' yesterday came in tweet-like fashion. All four of them basically rehashed his usual gripes, and he is definitely not letting go of his 2020 election complaints. The closer it gets to the next set of elections, the more the GOP will fret about trump clinging to his claiMs of RigGing.

You can find the original statements on this page. I've spoilered this because reading the rank nonsense he produces can be quite aggravating. I do wonder how many people read these.

1.
Due to inept leadership that gave us open borders, COVID incompetence, loss of energy independence, a military in chaos, rampant inflation, corrupt elections, and lack of world standing, our Nation, perhaps for the first time, has lost its confidence!

2.
Biden, who is destroying our Nation with insane policies of open Borders, corrupt Elections, disastrous energy policies, unconstitutional mandates, and devastating school closures, used my name today to try to further divide America. This political theater is all just a distraction for the fact Biden has completely and totally failed. Our Country no longer has Borders, has totally and completely lost control of Covid (record numbers!), is no longer Energy Independent, Inflation is rampant, our Military is in chaos, and our exit, or surrender, from Afghanistan was perhaps the most embarrassing day in the long and distinguished history of the United States—and so much more. Why is it that the Unselect Committee of totally partisan political hacks, whose judgment has long ago been made, not discussing the rigged Presidential Election of 2020? It’s because they don’t have the answers or justifications for what happened. They got away with something, and it is leading to our Country’s destruction. They want all conversation concerning the Election “Canceled.” Just look at the numbers, they speak for themselves. They are not justifiable, so the complicit media just calls it the Big Lie, when in actuality the Big Lie was the Election itself.

The Democrats want to own this day of January 6th so they can stoke fears and divide America. I say, let them have it because America sees through theirs lies and polarizations.

3.
Biden is working hard to try and deflect the incompetent job he is doing, and has done, on the horrible Afghanistan withdrawal (surrender), the Borders, COVID, Inflation, loss of Energy Independence, and much more. Everything he touches turns to failure. That’s what you get when you have a rigged Election.

4.
To watch Biden speaking is very hurtful to many people. They're the ones who tried to stop the peaceful transfer with a rigged election. Just look at the numbers. Does anybody really think that Biden beat Obama with the Black population in select Swing State cities, but nowhere else? That he would lose 18 out of 19 bellwether counties, and 27 out of 27 “toss up” House races, but somehow miraculously receive the most votes in American history with no coattails? That he would lose Florida, Ohio, and Iowa and win, even though it has never been done before?

They spread a “web of lies” about me and Russia for 4 years to try to overturn the 2016 election, and now they lie about how they interfered in the 2020 Election, too. Big Tech was used illegally.

Where did all those votes show up from in Georgia, where it was just revealed they sold ballots for $10 a piece, or in Pennsylvania, and Arizona, and Wisconsin. He acts like he's aggrieved, but we're the ones who were aggrieved and America is suffering because of it with poisonous Borders, record Inflation, a humiliating surrender in Afghanistan, $5 a gallon gas and higher, empty stock shelves, and rampant crime. America is a laughingstock stock of the world, and it's all because of the real insurrection, which took place on November 3rd, but this is an election year and MAGA Republicans should get elected and work with me to fix this horror that Joe Biden and the Democrats have brought us.
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Originally Posted by TofuFighter View Post
trump's slew of 'statements' yesterday came in tweet-like fashion. All four of them basically rehashed his usual gripes, and he is definitely not letting go of his 2020 election complaints. The closer it gets to the next set of elections, the more the GOP will fret about trump clinging to his claiMs of RigGing.

You can find the original statements on this page. I've spoilered this because reading the rank nonsense he produces can be quite aggravating. I do wonder how many people read these.

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Due to inept leadership that gave us open borders, COVID incompetence, loss of energy independence, a military in chaos, rampant inflation, corrupt elections, and lack of world standing, our Nation, perhaps for the first time, has lost its confidence!

2.
Biden, who is destroying our Nation with insane policies of open Borders, corrupt Elections, disastrous energy policies, unconstitutional mandates, and devastating school closures, used my name today to try to further divide America. This political theater is all just a distraction for the fact Biden has completely and totally failed. Our Country no longer has Borders, has totally and completely lost control of Covid (record numbers!), is no longer Energy Independent, Inflation is rampant, our Military is in chaos, and our exit, or surrender, from Afghanistan was perhaps the most embarrassing day in the long and distinguished history of the United States—and so much more. Why is it that the Unselect Committee of totally partisan political hacks, whose judgment has long ago been made, not discussing the rigged Presidential Election of 2020? It’s because they don’t have the answers or justifications for what happened. They got away with something, and it is leading to our Country’s destruction. They want all conversation concerning the Election “Canceled.” Just look at the numbers, they speak for themselves. They are not justifiable, so the complicit media just calls it the Big Lie, when in actuality the Big Lie was the Election itself.

The Democrats want to own this day of January 6th so they can stoke fears and divide America. I say, let them have it because America sees through theirs lies and polarizations.

3.
Biden is working hard to try and deflect the incompetent job he is doing, and has done, on the horrible Afghanistan withdrawal (surrender), the Borders, COVID, Inflation, loss of Energy Independence, and much more. Everything he touches turns to failure. That’s what you get when you have a rigged Election.

4.
To watch Biden speaking is very hurtful to many people. They're the ones who tried to stop the peaceful transfer with a rigged election. Just look at the numbers. Does anybody really think that Biden beat Obama with the Black population in select Swing State cities, but nowhere else? That he would lose 18 out of 19 bellwether counties, and 27 out of 27 “toss up” House races, but somehow miraculously receive the most votes in American history with no coattails? That he would lose Florida, Ohio, and Iowa and win, even though it has never been done before?

They spread a “web of lies” about me and Russia for 4 years to try to overturn the 2016 election, and now they lie about how they interfered in the 2020 Election, too. Big Tech was used illegally.

Where did all those votes show up from in Georgia, where it was just revealed they sold ballots for $10 a piece, or in Pennsylvania, and Arizona, and Wisconsin. He acts like he's aggrieved, but we're the ones who were aggrieved and America is suffering because of it with poisonous Borders, record Inflation, a humiliating surrender in Afghanistan, $5 a gallon gas and higher, empty stock shelves, and rampant crime. America is a laughingstock stock of the world, and it's all because of the real insurrection, which took place on November 3rd, but this is an election year and MAGA Republicans should get elected and work with me to fix this horror that Joe Biden and the Democrats have brought us.
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Where did all those votes show up from in Georgia, where it was just revealed they sold ballots for $10 a piece
Ten dollars a piece? I have a daughter who lives in Georgia. The guy charged her twenty bucks a piece for three ballots.

Seriously, what was the point of this rant? And what flunkie wrote it for him?
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Originally Posted by TofuFighter View Post
trump's slew of 'statements' yesterday came in tweet-like fashion. All four of them basically rehashed his usual gripes, and he is definitely not letting go of his 2020 election complaints. The closer it gets to the next set of elections, the more the GOP will fret about trump clinging to his claiMs of RigGing.
Why would they fret ?

The claims of electoral fraud seem to motivate the Trump base and they, together with people who would vote GOP regardless make up almost all of the Republicans' support. The more the electoral fraud message is pushed, the more likely the Trump base is to turn out.
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Everything (Biden) touches turns to failure. That’s what you get when you have a rigged Election.
Oh, FFS, can you do anything except repeat the insults aimed at you?
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Oh, how I wish I could have seen Trump's reaction when Biden laid into him, calling him "not only a defeated president, but a failed president".
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trump's slew of 'statements' yesterday came in tweet-like fashion. All four of them basically rehashed his usual gripes, and he is definitely not letting go of his 2020 election complaints. The closer it gets to the next set of elections, the more the GOP will fret about trump clinging to his claiMs of RigGing.

You can find the original statements on this page. I've spoilered this because reading the rank nonsense he produces can be quite aggravating. I do wonder how many people read these.

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Due to inept leadership that gave us open borders, COVID incompetence, loss of energy independence, a military in chaos, rampant inflation, corrupt elections, and lack of world standing, our Nation, perhaps for the first time, has lost its confidence!

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Biden, who is destroying our Nation with insane policies of open Borders, corrupt Elections, disastrous energy policies, unconstitutional mandates, and devastating school closures, used my name today to try to further divide America. This political theater is all just a distraction for the fact Biden has completely and totally failed. Our Country no longer has Borders, has totally and completely lost control of Covid (record numbers!), is no longer Energy Independent, Inflation is rampant, our Military is in chaos, and our exit, or surrender, from Afghanistan was perhaps the most embarrassing day in the long and distinguished history of the United States—and so much more. Why is it that the Unselect Committee of totally partisan political hacks, whose judgment has long ago been made, not discussing the rigged Presidential Election of 2020? It’s because they don’t have the answers or justifications for what happened. They got away with something, and it is leading to our Country’s destruction. They want all conversation concerning the Election “Canceled.” Just look at the numbers, they speak for themselves. They are not justifiable, so the complicit media just calls it the Big Lie, when in actuality the Big Lie was the Election itself.

The Democrats want to own this day of January 6th so they can stoke fears and divide America. I say, let them have it because America sees through theirs lies and polarizations.

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Biden is working hard to try and deflect the incompetent job he is doing, and has done, on the horrible Afghanistan withdrawal (surrender), the Borders, COVID, Inflation, loss of Energy Independence, and much more. Everything he touches turns to failure. That’s what you get when you have a rigged Election.

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To watch Biden speaking is very hurtful to many people. They're the ones who tried to stop the peaceful transfer with a rigged election. Just look at the numbers. Does anybody really think that Biden beat Obama with the Black population in select Swing State cities, but nowhere else? That he would lose 18 out of 19 bellwether counties, and 27 out of 27 “toss up” House races, but somehow miraculously receive the most votes in American history with no coattails? That he would lose Florida, Ohio, and Iowa and win, even though it has never been done before?

They spread a “web of lies” about me and Russia for 4 years to try to overturn the 2016 election, and now they lie about how they interfered in the 2020 Election, too. Big Tech was used illegally.

Where did all those votes show up from in Georgia, where it was just revealed they sold ballots for $10 a piece, or in Pennsylvania, and Arizona, and Wisconsin. He acts like he's aggrieved, but we're the ones who were aggrieved and America is suffering because of it with poisonous Borders, record Inflation, a humiliating surrender in Afghanistan, $5 a gallon gas and higher, empty stock shelves, and rampant crime. America is a laughingstock stock of the world, and it's all because of the real insurrection, which took place on November 3rd, but this is an election year and MAGA Republicans should get elected and work with me to fix this horror that Joe Biden and the Democrats have brought us.
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"They're the ones who tried to stop the peaceful transfer with a rigged election"
DJT personally had nothing to do with those "tweets". I seriously doubt he even read them before they were made public. They are clearly the work of some lackey with actual thinking and writing skills.

This happens more frequently now: An incoherent and demented Trump rambles around Mar-a-Lago all day, or drives around the golf course with some suck-ass buddies, while his bodyguard shield him from the reality of his criminal behaviour. Meanwhile some fascist wordsmith somewhere else concocts "Trump's incredible thoughts" that are just condensed reruns of Donny's public fascist outbursts but in coherent form, with the faint stench of his speech patterns to make it look a bit like Donny said them. They are spinning him so hard they could generate their own force-field...
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Old 7th January 2022, 01:53 PM   #269
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I like the Dem celebration whenever Trump is insulted now. It's like if someone was banging your wife for 4 years, and now you thump your chest in victory whenever the guy gets a speeding ticket.

All Biden did was give Trump attention...and Trump loves that, good or bad. Now Trump has the media stage, once again. And his followers have even more resolve, I imagine. Not that they need it.
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Originally Posted by Warp12 View Post
I like the Dem celebration whenever Trump is insulted now. It's like if someone was banging your wife for 4 years, and now you thump your chest in victory whenever the guy gets a speeding ticket.

All Biden did was give Trump attention...and Trump loves that, good or bad. Now Trump has the media stage, once again. And his followers have even more resolve, I imagine. Not that they need it.
My wife is smarter than some, it seems, but I'm willing to celebrate the insult of someone who was banging my country for 4 years.
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Old 7th January 2022, 05:10 PM   #271
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Originally Posted by bruto View Post
My wife is smarter than some, it seems, but I'm willing to celebrate the insult of someone who was banging my country for 4 years.
Since you quoted a post making it visible to me, I think someone needs to be reminded of Let's go, Brandon on T-shirts, yard signs, bumper stickers, etc. But then, it's only bad when the Dems do it.
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Old 7th January 2022, 05:41 PM   #272
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Originally Posted by Stacyhs View Post
I'm pretty sure Darat was referencing the Roseanne Barr/Ambien/racist remarks as a side joke using Prevagen.

At least that's how I read it.
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Originally Posted by Spyke View Post
I'm pretty sure Darat was referencing the Roseanne Barr/Ambien/racist remarks as a side joke using Prevagen.

At least that's how I read it.
Ah, could be. I didn't make the link as Prevagen is allegedly a memory enhancement product...which is a load of garbage.
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Cyber Ninjas, the group that ran the disastrous Maricopa Cnty 'audit' of the election is closing down. Good riddance.
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Cyber Ninjas, the group that ran the disastrous Maricopa Cnty 'audit' of the election is closing down. Good riddance.
A start-up company, created for the sole purpose of carrying out an audit of the results of the election in Arizona.

Clearly, they were the best choice for doing it, given their track record in....not existing.
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
A start-up company, created for the sole purpose of carrying out an audit of the results of the election in Arizona.

Clearly, they were the best choice for doing it, given their track record in....not existing.
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Originally Posted by pgwenthold View Post
A start-up company, created for the sole purpose of carrying out an audit of the results of the election in Arizona.

Clearly, they were the best choice for doing it, given their track record in....not existing.
An old contractor trick: close doors, open under a new name

https://apnews.com/article/business-...aff0f14824fcb4
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Originally Posted by Ladewig View Post
Oh, FFS, can you do anything except repeat the insults unpleasant truths aimed at you?
FTFY.

Trump certainly does have an okay grasp on DARVO, either way.
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Originally Posted by The Don View Post
Why would they [the GOP] fret ?
Because his incessant whining about 2020 is wearing thin. Yeah, his rabid base eats it up, but there are signs the more moderate Republicans are tiring of his one-track mind(?). For example, Dick Cheney coming out from under his rock to rag on GOP leadership for their ...well, lack of leadership. Or note the weak turnout at his recent rallies.

Trumps base is big but not big enough to consistently win elections, and certainly not big enough to win the presidency. If he remains the mouthpiece of the GOP and campaigns for his chosen candidates in the 2022 midterms with nothing more than BUT I WON, then he'll actually hurt the GOP. The smart money knows this, thus their "fretting".
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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
.... And what flunkie wrote it for him?
Stephen Miller. I'd bet money on it.
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