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Old 6th September 2022, 05:06 PM   #241
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Originally Posted by Aridas View Post
Supposedly, Russia's now buying huge numbers of artillery shells and rockets from North Korea. Guess those vaunted Soviet stockpiles are running out. May they all be dedicated as offerings to Saint HIMARS.
Which Russia sold to NK in the first place. No soubt NK is selling back at prices that guarantee a nice profit.
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Old 6th September 2022, 05:46 PM   #242
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
I love this talk about "Russian oligarchs". It's actually a tautology, because oligarchs only exist in Russia. In the Empire of Lies, there are "philanthropists" like the wonderful George Soros. And in Ukraine people like Kolomoiski who funded both the Azov Nazis and the actor in Kiev don't exist at all. It's Russian propaganda.
The difference is that billionaires like Soros made their money through the market - Soros was a hedge fund manager, Gates, Bezos and Musk founded very successful companies. Oligarchs got their millions through political favours. And no, they don't only exist in Russia. There are Chinese, Indian and Indonesian oligarchs as well. They appear wherever there are corrupt authoritarian regimes where political favour can be bought.

Interestingly, there is research showing that it is only those billionaires who acquired their wealth purely through political connections that are a drain on a country's economy. Those who acquired wealth through business or investments - ie. legitimately - have little to no effect on the economy.
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Old 6th September 2022, 05:59 PM   #243
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Originally Posted by arthwollipot View Post
The difference is that billionaires like Soros made their money through the market - Soros was a hedge fund manager, Gates, Bezos and Musk founded very successful companies. Oligarchs got their millions through political favours. And no, they don't only exist in Russia. There are Chinese, Indian and Indonesian oligarchs as well. They appear wherever there are corrupt authoritarian regimes where political favour can be bought.

Interestingly, there is research showing that it is only those billionaires who acquired their wealth purely through political connections that are a drain on a country's economy. Those who acquired wealth through business or investments - ie. legitimately - have little to no effect on the economy.

You seriously believe that companies like Microsoft, Amazon and Tesla "made their money through the market"? That's exceptionally naive. Anyway, I recommend to you like I do so often the film "The rise and fall of the Russian oligarchs".

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What I originally wanted to post is a very funny article on "Kyiv Post" reposted on Col. Patrick Lang's blog (which used to be good but went completely bonkers over the Ukraine affair) called The Kherson Front. It starts like this:

Originally Posted by TTG
The ongoing news blackout from Kyiv has forced military and intelligence analysts to triangulate reporting from NATO briefings, local social media, and Russian press releases. Each of these sources have their own agendas, and when assessing them it’s often necessary to shift fact from hope, and even lies from truth.

By cross-checking reportage and confirmations across differing media, some facts present themselves. Though operational security prevents reporting the location or strength of Ukrainian combat units, the following information provides a general picture. [...]

Ask yourselves why these "ex" intelligence types are annoyed by the silence from Kiev, while I can post daily very detailed reports from the Russians.
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Old 6th September 2022, 06:01 PM   #244
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
My posts from back then have been indeed as accurate as my posts now, and they couldn't be more accurate and consistent. Here is the thread that documents it all:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com...d.php?t=269584
No question about that.
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Old 6th September 2022, 06:13 PM   #245
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
You seriously believe that companies like Microsoft, Amazon and Tesla "made their money through the market"? That's exceptionally naive.
I understand that you believe the conspiracy theories that say that they didn't.
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Old 6th September 2022, 06:27 PM   #246
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
... Ask yourselves why these "ex" intelligence types are annoyed by the silence from Kiev, while I can post daily very detailed reports from the Russians.
Because Russian troops communicate with unencrypted radios and phones?
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Looks like there is even a second "counteroffensive" now. b is wondering why. And closely related he mentions that

Originally Posted by b
[...] In other news the IAEA has published its report (pdf) on nuclear safeguards in Ukraine. As expected the report does not say that the Ukraine army is shelling the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant (ZNPP), which the IAEA recently visited. It also does not say that Russia is shelling the plant (which it does not). The shells and the damage the IAEA has seen during its visit just somehow must have appeared from the sky.

It reports that the personnel on the site is working under nearly normal shift conditions and is not under pressure from Russia. The Ukraine had falsely claimed that the reactor crews were under duress.
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Old 6th September 2022, 06:45 PM   #248
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Originally Posted by pzkpfw View Post
Because Russian troops communicate with unencrypted radios and phones?
That's hilarious.
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Old 6th September 2022, 08:05 PM   #249
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Price cap on Russian Oil

The G7 countries have decided to impose a price cap on Russian oil (a better alternative than a total embargo). They can do this because they control the bulk of shipping insurance. If a Russian tanker does not agree to the price cap then they get no insurance and therefore can't dock at a port.

This puts Russia in between a rock and a hard place. They can't store the oil that they are pumping. It is either agree to the price cap or cap their oil wells and if they do the latter then it would take years for oil production to ramp up again.

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Old 6th September 2022, 08:21 PM   #250
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Originally Posted by Childlike Empress View Post
Looks like there is even a second "counteroffensive" now. b
Ha ha "second"...
Was wondering how you were going to try and spin that
is wondering why. And closely related he mentions that[/quote]yeah funnily enough your source is lying

It reports that the personnel on the site is working under nearly normal shift conditions and is not under pressure from Russia. The Ukraine had falsely claimed that the reactor crews were under duress.
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Ukrainian staff operating the plant under Russian military occupation are under constant high stress and
pressure, especially with the limited staff available. This is not sustainable and could lead to increased
human error with implications for nuclear safety. A sufficient number of operating staff must be able to
carry out their important duties without threats or pressure undermining not only their own safety but
also that of the facility itself, and any support required to ensure the health of the staff and their families
must be provided. ISAMZ being on site can identify and help address these matters in line with applicable
standards.
Recommendation 3: The IAEA recommends that an appropriate work environment, including family support,
for operating staff should be re-established. Furthermore, as the operator has the prime responsibility for
nuclear safety and security, it should be able to fulfil its mission with clear lines of responsibilities and
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Old 6th September 2022, 09:24 PM   #251
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CE is a "red sock", someone who grew up in East Germany and longs for the good old days to return, so ,yeah, he consider Berlin and Germany in general to be corrupt and evil for rejectiong the glorious way shown by the GDR....
You can take the girl out of East Germany, but you can’t take East Germany out of the girl.
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You can take the girl out of East Germany, but you can’t take East Germany out of the girl.
The girl won't leave East Germany, either.
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Old 6th September 2022, 10:11 PM   #253
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About a week ago Russians claimed to have thwarted some kind of commando operation against Enerhodar. We saw helicopters fly, a burning assault-barge and we were shown a video of dead Ukrainian soldiers on a river shore.

Now there is a slightly longer version of that video. Watch at least the last few seconds:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...ported_on_the/

This either shows again how (deliberately?) careless the Russians are with their propaganda and lies. Or, it is further evidence that those experiments on the Ukrainian soldiers in those secret Bio-Weapons Labs are really going well. Hmmmm ...


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On the somewhat more light-hearted side of things...

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It is clear to us why, under the pressure of our military, the russkies leave behind their weapons and ammunition when fleeing (this is always the case).
But to abandon a washing machine! A trophy won with so much effort!
We will never understand this.
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Old 6th September 2022, 10:23 PM   #255
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Originally Posted by Lord Emsworth View Post
About a week ago Russians claimed to have thwarted some kind of commando operation against Enerhodar. We saw helicopters fly, a burning assault-barge and we were shown a video of dead Ukrainian soldiers on a river shore.

Now there is a slightly longer version of that video. Watch at least the last few seconds:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...ported_on_the/

This either shows again how (deliberately?) careless the Russians are with their propaganda and lies. Or, it is further evidence that those experiments on the Ukrainian soldiers in those secret Bio-Weapons Labs are really going well. Hmmmm ...

I'm... confuzzled. Was that actually proof of the holy miracles that Lathander grants to the Russians? Maybe the unholy miracles of Bane? Either way, it's such great mercy for the Russians to use those miracles upon the Ukrainian fallen.
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Old 7th September 2022, 12:49 AM   #256
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Originally Posted by Lord Emsworth View Post
About a week ago Russians claimed to have thwarted some kind of commando operation against Enerhodar. We saw helicopters fly, a burning assault-barge and we were shown a video of dead Ukrainian soldiers on a river shore.

Now there is a slightly longer version of that video. Watch at least the last few seconds:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/com...ported_on_the/

This either shows again how (deliberately?) careless the Russians are with their propaganda and lies. Or, it is further evidence that those experiments on the Ukrainian soldiers in those secret Bio-Weapons Labs are really going well. Hmmmm ...

Do you have evidence that this film was in fact used by the Ruscists in support of a claim of having thwarted a UA commando action on Enerhodar?
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https://youtu.be/gstgGD-0bdY

Can't vouch for the veracity of this but if it is true, a lot of the Russian troops are officially still in Russia, so they are not getting paid combat bonus (or possibly anything).

Lots of poor morale and blaming Putin..
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Do you have evidence that this film was in fact used by the Ruscists in support of a claim of having thwarted a UA commando action on Enerhodar?
This is what has been floated around about a week ago. A video supposedly showing dead Ukrainian paratroopers and several patches and money etc collected off them. It had already been -- shall we say -- unconvincing back then to many.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRuss...ntering_close/

And here is a picture of a burning barge, which supposedly participated in the same incident:
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRuss...k_part_in_the/


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Damn. Looks like I have been had, too.
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But the joke is a really good one.

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Do you have evidence that this film was in fact used by the Ruscists in support of a claim of having thwarted a UA commando action on Enerhodar?
I'll have to reply once more.

So, it was a Ukrainian hoax. Russia claimed some sort of commando attempt on Enerhodar, that is true. And Ukrainian sources produced a video of proof with dead SOF/paratroopers or what have you.

This hoax video was however in fact spread around by -- as you call them -- ruscists as evidence of such a thwarted action. Not a lot, granted. But it was swallowed by some, as can be seen by the watermark on the first video on post 259*. The video with the dead rising up again was released yesterday, depending on your time zone.

The picture of that burning barge is not, I think, part of that hoax.


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There's real movement in the area between Kharkiv and Izium. I'm seeing some debate as to the Ukrainian motive in that sector:

1: An actual offensive, intended as such

2: A more minor counter-attack intended to force Russia to hold forces in that area so that they cannot shift reinforcements to Kherson. But if this was the intent, the counter-attack was more successful than anticipated.

3: Intent was to get HIMARs within range of Kupyansk, with all of its rail and road junctions.

Either way, even Russian channels are admitting that Ukraine has moved at least 15 km over the past three days and that Russia has lost contact with many units (including Spetsnaz) in Balakliia. Ukraine has taken Volokiv Yar north of Balakiia as well as Nova Husarivka to the south.
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There's real movement in the area between Kharkiv and Izium. I'm seeing some debate as to the Ukrainian motive in that sector:

1: An actual offensive, intended as such

2: A more minor counter-attack intended to force Russia to hold forces in that area so that they cannot shift reinforcements to Kherson. But if this was the intent, the counter-attack was more successful than anticipated.

3: Intent was to get HIMARs within range of Kupyansk, with all of its rail and road junctions.

Either way, even Russian channels are admitting that Ukraine has moved at least 15 km over the past three days and that Russia has lost contact with many units (including Spetsnaz) in Balakliia. Ukraine has taken Volokiv Yar north of Balakiia as well as Nova Husarivka to the south.
Or the Russian view which would be that they have masterfully lured the Nazi Ukrainians into creating a salient that the Russians will then surround before marching on to Kyiv and victory.
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Or the Russian view which would be that they have masterfully lured the Nazi Ukrainians into creating a salient that the Russians will then surround before marching on to Kyiv and victory.
That was literally the thrust of one of the links above. They're talking about how Russia has masterfully induced Ukraine into overcommitting itself. Russia should have this all mopped up in the near future, I imagine.
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That was literally the thrust of one of the links above. They're talking about how Russia has masterfully induced Ukraine into overcommitting itself. Russia should have this all mopped up in the near future, I imagine.
That is one of the disadvantages of a comparatively swift advance, strained logistics and a salient which could turn into a kettle if the defending forces are prepared and can move quickly enough.

That's one big "if" looking at Russia's poor performance at wars of movement or anything other than simply reducing places to rubble and slowly picking their way over that rubble.
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That is one of the disadvantages of a comparatively swift advance, strained logistics and a salient which could turn into a kettle if the defending forces are prepared and can move quickly enough.
That's true. There's a lot going on right now and those of us in the peanut gallery won't know the real situation for some time (if ever). But...

It does seem to be a wide attack, from Nova Husarivka south of Balakiia up to Chkalovske in the north. About 40km wide.

Pro-Russian sources are discussing the fighting at Semenivka and are describing the defeat of the Ukr army outside Shevchenkove/Shevchenkovo. Fighting at Semenivka would put the depth of the Ukr advance at at least 20 km, probably closer to 25km.



George A. Hamalian on twitter:
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The enemy is also actively working with artillery and MLRS and is putting into action its reserves previously concentrated in the #Chuguev area.

In general, there is a growing serious operational crisis.
Check out Hamalian's posting history - he's strongly pro-Russian, often overstating the size of impact of Russian victories, claiming Ukrainian losses that could not be verified, all that.

If people like that are worried, then things really are serious for Russia.

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The girl won't leave East Germany, either.
Not without a lot of kicking and screaming.
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CE is a "red sock", someone who grew up in East Germany and longs for the good old days to return, so ,yeah, he consider Berlin and Germany in general to be corrupt and evil for rejectiong the glorious way shown by the GDR....
If the old days of East Germany were to return, she'd be in West Germany before delivery of the first bag of cement for the new Berlin wall.
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You seriously believe that companies like Microsoft, Amazon and Tesla "made their money through the market"?
They made their money by making products and services people wanted...
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One Russian captured by Ukr forces + 2 (only briefly seen) KIA

Two more Russians captured, one a Lt. Colonel.

Seven more captures, one is Wagner.

Two more

Three more(Although this one looks a bit suspicious because they are dressed a bit too warmly, might be from the spring fighting).

Things are happening.

ETA: Three more

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Originally Posted by crescent View Post

Things are happening.
For Russia!

You see, Russia has gained not lost.

You western morons are so gullible. Don't you understand that: 25,000 troops killed, further, up to 70,000 killed or wounded, no progress, a Ukraine counter attack after 6 months, the loss of Black Sea fleet Units, new countries joining NATO, and a self-admitted economic contraction are ALL signs that Russia is WINNING?!?!

You westerners and your lamestream woke media, who love pride parades and decadence are just so foolish. Russia is going win with another million rounds of ammo bought from a dictatorial backwa...

you know what? Ok. I'm done.
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Old 7th September 2022, 11:07 AM   #270
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For Russia!

You see, Russia has gained not lost.

You western morons are so gullible. Don't you understand that: 25,000 troops killed, further, up to 70,000 killed or wounded, no progress, a Ukraine counter attack after 6 months, the loss of Black Sea fleet Units, new countries joining NATO, and a self-admitted economic contraction are ALL signs that Russia is WINNING?!?!

You westerners and your lamestream woke media, who love pride parades and decadence are just so foolish. Russia is going win with another million rounds of ammo bought from a dictatorial backwa...

you know what? Ok. I'm done.
No progress? Here I was under the impression that Russia managed to finish taking another very small settlement on the eastern front. Kodema is very important, after all. Totally worth the many good will gestures across nearly all the other fronts.
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Honestly the idea that Ukraine would be counterattacking at all, especially in the east, would have been pretty wild, back in February. I think we all kind of expected that by now it would be partisans versus ethnic cleansing throughout the country. Zelensky clinging to a rump state on the Polish border, asking for our hearts and prayers as he directed one final doomed charge to 'retake Kiev'.

Instead it turns out that not only can Russia not do maneuver warfare, they can't even do deep battle. Which is their own doctrine. Crafted specifically to exploit numerical advantage with inferior troops and arms.
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If the old days of East Germany were to return, she'd be in West Germany before delivery of the first bag of cement for the new Berlin wall.
I currently live in one of the old DDR areas of Berlin. The differences between Ost and West are still pretty marked. However, it makes for a really interesting city, probably the largest cultural and societal potpourri I have ever experienced. I love it
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Honestly the idea that Ukraine would be counterattacking at all, especially in the east, would have been pretty wild, back in February. I think we all kind of expected that by now it would be partisans versus ethnic cleansing throughout the country. Zelensky clinging to a rump state on the Polish border, asking for our hearts and prayers as he directed one final doomed charge to 'retake Kiev'.

Instead it turns out that not only can Russia not do maneuver warfare, they can't even do deep battle. Which is their own doctrine. Crafted specifically to exploit numerical advantage with inferior troops and arms.
I was expecting the Russians to fail in the cities. Kiev was going to be Stalingrad. I knew the Russians were not very good. We all seems to have missed just how bad they are.
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I currently live in one of the old DDR areas of Berlin. The differences between Ost and West are still pretty marked. However, it makes for a really interesting city, probably the largest cultural and societal potpourri I have ever experienced. I love it
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I believe you, but:
Yeah, yeah, I get you I inadvertently drifted, my bad.
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I was expecting the Russians to fail in the cities. Kiev was going to be Stalingrad. I knew the Russians were not very good. We all seems to have missed just how bad they are.
I always figured the smart play, in modern warfare, would be to bypass the cities and starve them out. See how feisty the resistance gets without any power or food or running water. Once you've got room to maneuver, and have developed your supply infrastructure, set up refugee camps and go into each city block by block, offering the citizens the option of going into a camp or getting razed.
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Now even Switzerland is getting in on the act.
Switzerland will seek closer ties to NATO and EU in wake of Russia's war in Ukraine, government says

Switzerland said it would seek closer ties to NATO and the European Union to strengthen its “defense capabilities” in the wake of Russia’s war in Ukraine while maintaining its traditional neutrality in the crisis.

The Swiss Federal Council said in a statement Wednesday that the government has decided to focus on country’s security and defense policy “more consistently than before towards international cooperation.” . . .

The country will seek to increase participation in joint exercises with NATO and join the EU’s rapid-deployment teams for rescue and evacuation operations.

The Swiss Federal Council also said it decided to modernize the country's armed forces by “incorporating lessons learned from" the war in Ukraine.
Way to go, Putin.
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I always figured the smart play, in modern warfare, would be to bypass the cities and starve them out. See how feisty the resistance gets without any power or food or running water. Once you've got room to maneuver, and have developed your supply infrastructure, set up refugee camps and go into each city block by block, offering the citizens the option of going into a camp or getting razed.

Even if they wanted to, the Russians couldn't do that because of their overreliance on rail supply, as all rail lines run through major cities.
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This is a very cryptic tweet from @DefenseU

https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/...v_EgZKq-WmLYGw

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The weather forecast says it is going to be very hot in Crimea.
It's time for the rus invaders to prepare for a swim. It takes a lot of strength to swim to Sochi or Yeysk.
BTW the Guinness Book of World Records may include a new record for the longest open water swim.
Could mean they are going to blow a bridge, or possibly are going to land some troops in Crimea to further split the Russian defenders.
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Even if they wanted to, the Russians couldn't do that because of their overreliance on rail supply, as all rail lines run through major cities.
It also does not match past behavior in places like Chechnya. Instead they repeatedly try to make armor a big part of urban warfare by coming up with crap like the "Terminator" BMPT.
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