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Old 12th September 2019, 06:35 PM   #1
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Loch Ness may actually be getting monsters thanks to global warming

I was watching a video of either a snake or an Eel or an oarfish or whatever swimming past a boat on the Loch Ness.
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Old 12th September 2019, 07:53 PM   #2
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Old 13th September 2019, 01:37 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
I was watching a video of either a snake or an Eel or an oarfish or whatever swimming past a boat on the Loch Ness.
Once an eel gave me a warning bite. I Was scuba diving off Christmas Island and I was looking at some fish while holding onto a rock. I then felt a sensation like many needles scraping my skin. I looked down at my hand and saw an eel retreating into a hole. I withdrew my hand Sent my sincerest appology thoughts to the eel, and thanked it for not taking a chunk out of my hand and moved on.
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Old 13th September 2019, 02:22 AM   #4
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Old 13th September 2019, 02:24 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by Nessie View Post
It was me.
Are you by any chance a giant eel? Or are you instead a shoal of smaller eels?
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Old 13th September 2019, 04:54 AM   #6
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Do you know what UFOs and cryptozoological monsters have in common?
People lump a series of observations together and then try to find one explanation for all of them, instead of looking at each incident individually.

Logs, otters, eels, wind disturbances on the water, fish wakes = Nessie.

Conventional aircraft, meteors, weather phenomenon, balloon/sky lantern hoaxes = UFO.

Just apply Occam's Razor...if you have to invent an intergalactic-faring or loch-dwelling species to explain something, you're probably wrong.
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Old 13th September 2019, 10:01 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by BinDerSmokDat View Post
Do you know what UFOs and cryptozoological monsters have in common?
People lump a series of observations together and then try to find one explanation for all of them, instead of looking at each incident individually.

Logs, otters, eels, wind disturbances on the water, fish wakes = Nessie.

Conventional aircraft, meteors, weather phenomenon, balloon/sky lantern hoaxes = UFO.

Just apply Occam's Razor...if you have to invent an intergalactic-faring or loch-dwelling species to explain something, you're probably wrong.
I never said anything that smacked of hocus pokus crap. Global warming has allowed hitherto unknown sea creatures into the Loch. Let me find the video.
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Old 13th September 2019, 10:08 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
I never said anything that smacked of hocus pokus crap. Global warming has allowed hitherto unknown sea creatures into the Loch. Let me find the video.
I can't find the video. The creature I saw was a sluggish snake-like thing and it was able to get in the Loch because of rising sea levels due to global warming. Depending on your definition of monsters the snake or whatever didn't look dangerous at all. It swam by two men in a boat.
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Old 13th September 2019, 02:57 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Nessie View Post
It was me.
You gave me a warning bite?
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Old 13th September 2019, 04:58 PM   #10
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
I never said anything that smacked of hocus pokus crap. Global warming has allowed hitherto unknown sea creatures into the Loch.
How?

The loch's surface is 16m (52ft) above sea level and has numerous canal locks between it and the sea.
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Old 13th September 2019, 05:05 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by EHocking View Post
How?



The loch's surface is 16m (52ft) above sea level and has numerous canal locks between it and the sea.
Nessie's a narrowboater?
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Originally Posted by EHocking View Post
How?

The loch's surface is 16m (52ft) above sea level and has numerous canal locks between it and the sea.
I don't know about "unknown", but numerous sea creatures DO visit Loch Ness, including anadromous fish like salmon and catadromous fish like eels. The native eel population breeds in the sargasso sea. Seals have also been known to pay the loch a visit.

It's annoyingly difficult to find information about the fauna of the loch that's not just focused on the monster.
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Old 14th September 2019, 04:48 PM   #13
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I don't know about "unknown", but numerous sea creatures DO visit Loch Ness, including anadromous fish like salmon and catadromous fish like eels. The native eel population breeds in the sargasso sea. Seals have also been known to pay the loch a visit.

It's annoyingly difficult to find information about the fauna of the loch that's not just focused on the monster.
And is facilitated by global warming how?
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Originally Posted by EHocking View Post
And is facilitated by global warming how?
Not, probably. But your suggested sea creatures couldn't get there at all.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Not, probably. But your suggested sea creatures couldn't get there at all.
I was questioning the implied premise that rising sea levels were somehow involved.

Again, how is global warming facilitating the invasion of “monsters” to the loch and where is the evidence that such “monsters” are indeed arriving?
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Old 14th September 2019, 05:23 PM   #16
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Please read what you wrote. Specifically:
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How?

The loch's surface is 16m (52ft) above sea level and has numerous canal locks between it and the sea.
You're saying Cainekane's hypothetical sea creatures couldn't get there for those reasons. I simply pointed out that ACTUAL sea creatures can and do get there and have for thousands of years. I'm not saying the hypothetical creatures are real or that global warming has anything to do with it; just that your reasoning is off.
Note also that the River Ness and River Oich have free flowing sections in parallel to the locks, as far as I can tell.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
Please read what you wrote. Specifically:

You're saying Cainekane's hypothetical sea creatures couldn't get there for those reasons. I simply pointed out that ACTUAL sea creatures can and do get there and have for thousands of years. I'm not saying the hypothetical creatures are real or that global warming has anything to do with it; just that your reasoning is off.
Note also that the River Ness and River Oich have free flowing sections in parallel to the locks, as far as I can tell.
And global warming has what to do with any of this?
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Where did I say it did? You've correctly identified that the OP is wrong but for the wrong reason.
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
I can't find the video. The creature I saw was a sluggish snake-like thing and it was able to get in the Loch because of rising sea levels due to global warming. Depending on your definition of monsters the snake or whatever didn't look dangerous at all. It swam by two men in a boat.
Are you sure you're not thinking of the recent video footage of a large snake swimming in a river in China? I've not heard about any recent footage of a snakelike creature swimming in Loch Ness.
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/v...eory-j6nlsj0q3

Scientists from the University of Otago in New Zealand announced in research published this month that Nessie might be an oversized eel.

A video has now emerged which appears to show a large serpent-like creature in the River Ness, which flows into Britain’s largest body of fresh water.
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The eels result is discussed in another thread.

Your link is paywalled, by the way.
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