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Tags 2020 elections , Elizabeth Warren , Kamala Harris , Karen Bass , political speculation , vice presidential choices

View Poll Results: Who will Biden choose as running mate?
Elizabeth Warren 3 6.25%
Gretchen Whitmer 0 0%
Kamala Harris 23 47.92%
Karen Bass 3 6.25%
Keisha Lance Bottoms 2 4.17%
Michelle Lujan Grisham 1 2.08%
Stacey Abrams 0 0%
Susan Rice 5 10.42%
Tammy Duckworth 5 10.42%
Val Demings 1 2.08%
Another US Senator 0 0%
Another Governor 0 0%
Someone else 1 2.08%
On Planet X, Mike Pence will be VEEP Forever 4 8.33%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 14th August 2020, 09:12 AM   #481
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Originally Posted by Mumbles View Post
I remember when Oprah Winfrey went on Prof. Gates' ancestry program - it was a shock when they didn't find any white ancestry in her analysis (and this includes an examination of birth records and of census records, not just genetic analysis). But yeah, D'Souza (who previously wrote The American slave was treated like property, which is to say, pretty well") only managed to piss black Americans off, and of course Dolt 45's muppet reject son leapt right to it.
I'm sure there's plenty of cases like Oprah's, where its simply a matter of ancestors being enslaved by slavemasters who just didn't go in for that sort of thing. Which only means they weren't rapists in addition to being slaveowners.

But I swear, it seems like the Trumpkins have misrepresented any internal conflicts among blacks (i.e. light-skinned vs dark-skinned,"black-ish", and similar things) to be the mirror image equivalent of the 'one-drop rule' and figured they could exploit it. How more off base could you get?
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Old 14th August 2020, 09:15 AM   #482
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Originally Posted by Firestone View Post
Harris takes no prisoners:

"He [Trump] inherited the longest economic expansion in history from Barack Obama and Joe Biden. And then, like everything else he inherited, he ran it straight into the ground."

(from her event yesterday with Biden)
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Kamala Harris has already delivered my favorite line of this campaign

"Donald Trump inherited the longest economic expansion in American history from Barack Obama and Joe Biden then, like everything else he inherited he ran it straight into the ground."
Alright let's not start turning her into another Pelosi where we all cream ourselves everytime she hits Trump with a "zinger."

None of this matters if when push comes to shove she can't stop him from doing anything.

We need effective political action, not "wicked, sick burns."
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Old 14th August 2020, 09:51 AM   #483
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I'm sure there's plenty of cases like Oprah's, where its simply a matter of ancestors being enslaved by slavemasters who just didn't go in for that sort of thing. Which only means they weren't rapists in addition to being slaveowners.
From what I have seen of those ancestry shows, most African-Americans can only trace their ancestry back to whoever was alive at the end of the Civil War. The records from who preceded that mostly don't seem to exist anymore, perhaps such records just were not kept, or maybe they were destroyed.

So in the case of one like Oprah, the ancestor might be there, but there just might not be any record of it.
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Old 14th August 2020, 09:59 AM   #484
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For a torture apologist, climate change denier, homophobe, thief, liar, birther, hypocrite and convicted felon.....
You left out "adulterer".
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Originally Posted by catsmate View Post
For a torture apologist, climate change denier, homophobe, thief, liar, birther, hypocrite and convicted felon republican
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Originally Posted by catsmate View Post
For a torture apologist, climate change denier, homophobe, thief, liar, birther, hypocrite and convicted felon.....
Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
You left out "adulterer".
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Catsmate: I liked your post and thought your wording was perfectly fine. Don't let these guys get you down.
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James Woods Tweeted

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Gun grabber, back stabber, race baiter, white hater, knee dropper, flip-flopper. #PhonyKamalaHarris
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Old 15th August 2020, 10:56 PM   #488
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From what I have seen of those ancestry shows, most African-Americans can only trace their ancestry back to whoever was alive at the end of the Civil War. The records from who preceded that mostly don't seem to exist anymore, perhaps such records just were not kept, or maybe they were destroyed.

So in the case of one like Oprah, the ancestor might be there, but there just might not be any record of it.
But, again, there's also the DNA analysis, which also shows no European ancestry. This is simply not the case for the average black American.
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Old 16th August 2020, 02:23 AM   #489
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
James Woods Tweeted

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Gun grabber, back stabber, race baiter, white hater, knee dropper, flip-flopper. #PhonyKamalaHarris
Wow, there are underlying issues there.

ETA: Just read some of his tweets and the replies to it. That's a world of crazy right there. How can human beings think that way? The hell's wrong with these people's brains?
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40-odd percent of people are willing to think that way
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Anecdote from Belgian media:

In October 2017, Howard Gutman, former US ambassador to Belgium, told on Belgian state TV that the 2020 Democratic ticket will be Biden-Harris or Biden-Obama (meaning Michelle), and bought the thus named domain names.

https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2020/08...an-voorspelde/

(Embedded video in English)

ETA: apparently buying these kind of domain names is a hobby of his. Facebook post from Howard Gutman on 12/Aug/2020:

"In case anyone is interested . . . for 2024 I am now the proud owner of www.Harris-Cuomo.com and www.Harris-Warner.com to reserve to donate to the Dems. I am also the owner now of www.Haley-Pompeo.com and www.Pompeo-Haley.com, although those may well cost the ultimate buyer . . ."
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Wow, there are underlying issues there.

ETA: Just read some of his tweets and the replies to it. That's a world of crazy right there. How can human beings think that way? The hell's wrong with these people's brains?
James Woods is a douchebag, who appropriately, has been somewhat typecast in douchebag roles for most of his acting career.

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The latest episode of the Opening Arguments podcast does a deep dive into Harris' voting and prosecutorial records (as well as what her campaign promises were while she was making her bid for president) from her entire career. It's very revealing, and I'd definitely recommend it for anybody who is interested in understanding what kind of a person Biden has chosen as running mate.

The TL/DR version is that her record in the Senate is to the left of Bernie Sanders (although only by a teeny amount), and that many (although not all) of her decisions as prosecutor also speak to her being very progressive. The latter is also often misrepresented.
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James Woods Tweeted

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Gun grabber, back stabber, race baiter, white hater, knee dropper, flip-flopper. #PhonyKamalaHarris
Trumpanzees think that actors should just STFU and do their jobs. Except for James Woods, for some reason....
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
James Woods Tweeted
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Gun P**** grabber, back stabber, race baiter, white immigrant hater, knee dropper boob grabber, flip-flopper. #PhonyDonaldTrump
Fixed that for ya, James.
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Rush Limbaugh calls Kamala Harris a Ho.
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And Republicans, including her fellow U.S. senators, are silent.
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And Republicans, including her fellow U.S. senators, are silent.
I've never seen such a bunch of cowards as this crop of GOP senators.
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The party of family values!
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I suppose it could be considered sophomoric humour aimed at his core audience of "hur-hur" right wingers with little education.

Walter Mondale and Geraldine Ferraro were dubbed "Fritz and Tits". I had hoped that the right might have moved on from lazy sexist nicknames but then again why should I do so ?
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I'm late to the party as usual, but apparently it's rumored that Trump will replace Pence with Nikki Haley for VP.
Unlikely in the extreme, but it would be awesome to see the spin from the Harris Birthers if it happened!
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