White House Survivor - Page 65

d4m10n · 4th December 2020, 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by Armitage72

Dr. Fauci has accepted an offer to retain his current position in President Biden's administration.

Dead man walking!

I don't think he's in the sort of position that's a political appt.

ETA: https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...mp-fire-fauci/

Jim_MDP · 4th December 2020, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

I don't think he's in the sort of position that's a political appt.

ETA: https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...mp-fire-fauci/

Maybe that's part of the genesis of the late Oct. "Schedule F" EO. It might (?) make him fireable now.

Meadmaker · 14th December 2020, 04:52 PM

Bill Barr is out, voluntarily.

Norman Alexander · 14th December 2020, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Meadmaker

Bill Barr is out, ("voluntarily" ?).

Following a "nice chat with Trump". Of which there is no such thing, btw.

Trebuchet · 14th December 2020, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Meadmaker

Bill Barr is out, voluntarily.

Cue an "acting" appointment who will immediately bring charges against Hillary, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and of course, Barry Soetoro.

Segnosaur · 14th December 2020, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Cue an "acting" appointment who will immediately bring charges against Hillary, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and of course, Barry Soetoro.

According to Stubby McBonespurs, his replacement will be Deputy Attorney General Jeff Rosen.

According to The Independent:
Mr Rosen...had previously served under Elaine Chao as deputy Transportation Secretary before his appointment to the Justice Department, replacing Rod Rosenstein as then-deputy attorney general. He was confirmed by the Senate by a party-line vote of 52-49 in May 2019, despite a lack of experience with both the Justice Department and as a prosecutor....Prior to his role in the Trump administration, Mr Rosen joined the Office of Management and Budget as its general counsel and senior policy adviser under former president George W Bush. He remained in the role until 2009.

So, much like Barr... not much actual courtroom experience, and lots of involvement with past Republican endeavors.

Norman Alexander · 14th December 2020, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Cue an "acting" appointment who will immediately bring charges against Hillary, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and of course, Barry Soetoro.

Len Possett, Tim Screevy, The Reverend Phipps, Peg Leg Loombucket, Solly Levy, Ginger Epstein, Able Seaman Trufitt, Scotch Lil, Messrs Cattermole, Mousehabit, Neapthigh and Trusspot (solicitors and Commissioners for Oaths), Father Thunderghast, Fat Alice, Con Mahoney, Yeti Rosencrantz, Foo Too Robinson and Uncle Ted Willis and all!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widecombe_Fair_(song)

dudalb · 16th December 2020, 12:42 PM

Not exactly a white house exit, but Mitch Mcconnell and Trump don;t love each other anymore.

ponderingturtle · 16th December 2020, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by dudalb

Not exactly a white house exit, but Mitch Mcconnell and Trump don;t love each other anymore.

And here I thought those crazy kids could make it last.

acbytesla · 16th December 2020, 02:22 PM

Rumor now has it that FBI Director Chris Wray is next on Trump's chopping block and the Deputy AG Rosen who will be the acting AG after Barr steps down. He really is imagining some kind of investigation leading to an arrest of Hunter and Joe Biden.

Norman Alexander · 16th December 2020, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by acbytesla

Rumor now has it that FBI Director Chris Wray is next on Trump's chopping block and the Deputy AG Rosen who will be the acting AG after Barr steps down. He really is imagining some kind of investigation leading to an arrest of Hunter and Joe Biden.

Why? Apart from the fact there's patently nothing in the story whatsoever, how does he think anything will happen in the ever shrinking time before Biden is inaugurated? Does he imagine Santa is going to send him a golden-ticket iron-clad Biden indictment down his chimney in a few weeks?

If Donny's reasoning power has degenerated to that extent, the USA is well served by his immediate exit.

Trebuchet · 16th December 2020, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Why? Apart from the fact there's patently nothing in the story whatsoever, how does he think anything will happen in the ever shrinking time before Biden is inaugurated? Does he imagine Santa is going to send him a golden-ticket iron-clad Biden indictment down his chimney in a few weeks?

If Donny's reasoning power has degenerated to that extent, the USA is well served by his immediate exit.

Highlighted assumes facts not in evidence.

Meadmaker · 16th December 2020, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Norman Alexander

Why? Apart from the fact there's patently nothing in the story whatsoever, how does he think anything will happen in the ever shrinking time before Biden is inaugurated? Does he imagine Santa is going to send him a golden-ticket iron-clad Biden indictment down his chimney in a few weeks?

If Donny's reasoning power has degenerated to that extent, the USA is well served by his immediate exit.

I'm still not completely convinced that Joe Biden will be the 46th President of the United States. He might be 47th, after Mike Pence.

I don't actually expect it to happen, but I wouldn't rule out Trump going so far off the walls that his cabinet goes for the 25th amendment, or the Congress goes for a rapid style impeachment.

I don't expect those things to happen. I would be shocked if they did happen, but like so many other things that have happened in the last two months, with any other president it would not have even occurred to me that it's a possibility.

Trebuchet · 16th December 2020, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Meadmaker

I'm still not completely convinced that Joe Biden will be the 46th President of the United States. He might be 47th, after Mike Pence.

I don't actually expect it to happen, but I wouldn't rule out Trump going so far off the walls that his cabinet goes for the 25th amendment, or the Congress goes for a rapid style impeachment.

I don't expect those things to happen. I would be shocked if they did happen, but like so many other things that have happened in the last two months, with any other president it would not have even occurred to me that it's a possibility.

More likely to resign on the 19th so Pence can pardon him.

Babbylonian · 16th December 2020, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

More likely to resign on the 19th so Pence can pardon him.

Which will be hailed by Trumpers as yet another brilliant move, preventing the commie Democrats from falsely prosecuting him.

bruto · 16th December 2020, 07:16 PM

One never knows, of course, but I think Trump may be stymied by the principle (or perhaps more like and excuse) Gerald Ford elaborated when he pardoned Nixon: that to accept a pardon carries an implicit admission of guilt. That's something Trump is not very good at.

Stacyhs · 16th December 2020, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

More likely to resign on the 19th so Pence can pardon him.

I've been saying that for months.

Norman Alexander · 16th December 2020, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

Highlighted assumes facts not in evidence.

Mea culpa.

Norman Alexander · 16th December 2020, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by Babbylonian

Which will be hailed by Trumpers as yet another brilliant move, preventing the commie Democrats from falsely prosecuting him.

Even though it won't.

But anyhoo....!

Jim_MDP · 17th December 2020, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by bruto

One never knows, of course, but I think Trump may be stymied by the principle (or perhaps more like and excuse) Gerald Ford elaborated when he pardoned Nixon: that to accept a pardon carries an implicit admission of guilt. That's something Trump is not very good at.

Arpaio doesn't ascribe to that interpretation, despite a court conviction.
Why would T?

bruto · 17th December 2020, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Jim_MDP

Arpaio doesn't ascribe to that interpretation, despite a court conviction.
Why would T?

It's probably a vain hope, I admit. But it's a hope. Ofr course the ideal thing, a vainer than vain hope, would be that Trump does the resignation and then on second thought Pence decides..."aw, **** him."

DevilsAdvocate · 17th December 2020, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by bruto

It's probably a vain hope, I admit. But it's a hope. Ofr course the ideal thing, a vainer than vain hope, would be that Trump does the resignation and then on second thought Pence decides..."aw, **** him."

I have said before that I would not at all be surprised if in mid-January Trump says he maybe might possibly be feeling a bit under the weather and before being flown to Walter Reed, out of an abundance of caution, as many Presidents before have done when going to the hospital, invokes the 25th Amendment making Pence temporarily acting President, only to resume the Presidency shortly thereafter and be shocked, shocked I tell you, that Pence has granted him a full blanket pardon that he totally didn't ask for because he is totally innocent. But, hey, a pardon is a pardon and he'll just have to accept it.

The Great Zaganza · 17th December 2020, 08:33 PM

Sure.
Pompeo canceled his 900 people party that was supposed to be the start of his 2024 campaign when it turned out that only 30 people would actually come.
The reason he gave was that he had been in contact with a suspected Covid case.
If the event had been packed he would have gone anyway.

Norman Alexander · 17th December 2020, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Sure.
Pompeo canceled his 900 people party that was supposed to be the start of his 2024 campaign when it turned out that only 30 people would actually come.
The reason he gave was that he had been in contact with a suspected Covid case.
If the event had been packed he would have gone anyway.

And given Covid to 900 people without one single pang of conscience on his behalf.

Segnosaur · 17th December 2020, 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Sure.
Pompeo canceled his 900 people party that was supposed to be the start of his 2024 campaign when it turned out that only 30 people would actually come.
The reason he gave was that he had been in contact with a suspected Covid case.

Who exactly was supposed to be invited to the party anyways? From googling around, I see that the party was supposed to be dedicated to "diplomats serving in dangerous areas"... bug given how poorly the Trump administration has treated members of the civil service, I can't see many career diplomats/public servants being too keen to participate in an event organized by one of the idiots that is messing things up (even if Covid were not an issue).

Craig4 · 17th December 2020, 09:24 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Who exactly was supposed to be invited to the party anyways? From googling around, I see that the party was supposed to be dedicated to "diplomats serving in dangerous areas"... bug given how poorly the Trump administration has treated members of the civil service, I can't see many career diplomats/public servants being too keen to participate in an event organized by one of the idiots that is messing things up (even if Covid were not an issue).

Having worked in the DR Congo, Central African Republic and South Sudan, I'll just tell you, you don't come home more or less healthy by not knowing how to protect yourself from infectious disease.

Norman Alexander · 17th December 2020, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Segnosaur

Who exactly was supposed to be invited to the party anyways? From googling around, I see that the party was supposed to be dedicated to "diplomats serving in dangerous areas"... bug given how poorly the Trump administration has treated members of the civil service, I can't see many career diplomats/public servants being too keen to participate in an event organized by one of the idiots that is messing things up (even if Covid were not an issue).

Who would imagine going to Pompeo's Covid-fest would be more dangerous than serving in dangerous overseas locations...

Craig4 · 17th December 2020, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza

Sure.
Pompeo canceled his 900 people party that was supposed to be the start of his 2024 campaign when it turned out that only 30 people would actually come.
The reason he gave was that he had been in contact with a suspected Covid case.
If the event had been packed he would have gone anyway.

The 2024 Republican primaries are going to be a vomit inducing spectacle. It will be a bunch of neglected dogs trying to show how hard they humped Trump's leg.

The Great Zaganza · 17th December 2020, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

The 2024 Republican primaries are going to be a vomit inducing spectacle. It will be a bunch of neglected dogs trying to show how hard they humped Trump's leg.

Ain't that the truth.

Segnosaur · 17th December 2020, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by Craig4

The 2024 Republican primaries are going to be a vomit inducing spectacle. It will be a bunch of neglected dogs trying to show how hard they humped Trump's leg.

I figure there will also be a couple of Candidates who try to rewrite history (a la Ben Sasse... "Look at how bad Trump was... ignore the fact that I supported him for 4 years".

Firestone · 18th December 2020, 01:10 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

The 2024 Republican primaries are going to be a vomit inducing spectacle. It will be a bunch of neglected dogs trying to show how hard they humped Trump's leg.

Why wait until 2024?

The 2022 Florida Senate primary, with Roger Stone, Ivanka Trump, and, what's his name, the Bible quoting invertebrate, could be epic.

The Great Zaganza · 18th December 2020, 02:03 AM

Originally Posted by Firestone

Why wait until 2024?

The 2022 Florida Senate primary, with Roger Stone, Ivanka Trump, and, what's his name, the Bible quoting invertebrate, could be epic.

I can't believe a convicted felon would get so many votes and another convicted felon would get so few. -L.S.

Susheel · 18th December 2020, 03:03 AM

From what I heard, Pompeo did not "cancel" the party. Basically, he had a party and no one came. He sent out 900 invitations, 90 RSVP'd and only 30 showed up. In fact, he was supposed to speak at the event but decided to tap someone else to proxy for him.

Trebuchet · 18th December 2020, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by Susheel

From what I heard, Pompeo did not "cancel" the party. Basically, he had a party and no one came. He sent out 900 invitations, 90 RSVP'd and only 30 showed up. In fact, he was supposed to speak at the event but decided to tap someone else to proxy for him.

I'm going to have to look it up, but I believe he canceled subsequent parties after that fiasco.

Craig4 · 19th December 2020, 06:45 AM

Originally Posted by Susheel

From what I heard, Pompeo did not "cancel" the party. Basically, he had a party and no one came. He sent out 900 invitations, 90 RSVP'd and only 30 showed up. In fact, he was supposed to speak at the event but decided to tap someone else to proxy for him.

Even without the pandemic, why would he invite the diplomats who work for him? He must know his entire workforce hates him.

The Great Zaganza · 19th December 2020, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by Craig4

Even without the pandemic, why would he invite the diplomats who work for him? He must know his entire workforce hates him.

and has more sense than to spread a virus all through the world just to make their boss not look like a pathetic loser.

Firestone · 7th January 2021, 05:56 AM

Mick Mulvaney, Trump’s former chief of staff and current special envoy to Northern Ireland said Thursday that he’s resigning from his diplomatic post.

Quote:

“I called [Secretary of State] Mike Pompeo last night to let him know I was resigning from that. I can’t do it. I can’t stay,” Mick Mulvaney told CNBC in an exclusive interview.

“Those who choose to stay, and I have talked with some of them, are choosing to stay because they’re worried the president might put someone worse in,” Mulvaney added.

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/07/mick...to-follow.html

Quick on the uptake, this Mulvaney!

alfaniner · 7th January 2021, 06:56 AM

Now we're seeing a "Truxit", people resigning instead of being fired. Five staff in the last 24 hours.

d4m10n · 7th January 2021, 06:59 AM

Needs a snappier moniker.

Also, what's the point at this late hour?

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AnonyMoose · 7th January 2021, 07:09 AM

Originally Posted by d4m10n

Needs a snappier moniker.

Also, what's the point at this late hour?

Self preservation... albeit at one minute to midnight, pfft.

4th December 2020, 07:22 AM	#2561
d4m10n Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Mounts Farm Posts: 6,685	Originally Posted by Armitage72 Dr. Fauci has accepted an offer to retain his current position in President Biden's administration. Dead man walking! I don't think he's in the sort of position that's a political appt. ETA: https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...mp-fire-fauci/
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4th December 2020, 07:35 AM	#2562
Jim_MDP Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: N.Cal/S.Or Posts: 8,110	Originally Posted by d4m10n I don't think he's in the sort of position that's a political appt. ETA: https://www.washingtonpost.com/healt...mp-fire-fauci/ Maybe that's part of the genesis of the late Oct. "Schedule F" EO. It might (?) make him fireable now.
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14th December 2020, 04:52 PM	#2563
Meadmaker Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,514	Bill Barr is out, voluntarily.
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14th December 2020, 05:25 PM	#2564
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,158	Originally Posted by Meadmaker Bill Barr is out, ("voluntarily" ?). Following a "nice chat with Trump". Of which there is no such thing, btw.
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14th December 2020, 05:37 PM	#2565
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,279	Originally Posted by Meadmaker Bill Barr is out, voluntarily. Cue an "acting" appointment who will immediately bring charges against Hillary, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and of course, Barry Soetoro.
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14th December 2020, 05:44 PM	#2566
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,340	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Cue an "acting" appointment who will immediately bring charges against Hillary, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and of course, Barry Soetoro. According to Stubby McBonespurs, his replacement will be Deputy Attorney General Jeff Rosen. According to The Independent: Mr Rosen...had previously served under Elaine Chao as deputy Transportation Secretary before his appointment to the Justice Department, replacing Rod Rosenstein as then-deputy attorney general. He was confirmed by the Senate by a party-line vote of 52-49 in May 2019, despite a lack of experience with both the Justice Department and as a prosecutor....Prior to his role in the Trump administration, Mr Rosen joined the Office of Management and Budget as its general counsel and senior policy adviser under former president George W Bush. He remained in the role until 2009. So, much like Barr... not much actual courtroom experience, and lots of involvement with past Republican endeavors.
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14th December 2020, 06:32 PM	#2567
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,158	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Cue an "acting" appointment who will immediately bring charges against Hillary, Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and of course, Barry Soetoro. Len Possett, Tim Screevy, The Reverend Phipps, Peg Leg Loombucket, Solly Levy, Ginger Epstein, Able Seaman Trufitt, Scotch Lil, Messrs Cattermole, Mousehabit, Neapthigh and Trusspot (solicitors and Commissioners for Oaths), Father Thunderghast, Fat Alice, Con Mahoney, Yeti Rosencrantz, Foo Too Robinson and Uncle Ted Willis and all! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widecombe_Fair_(song)
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16th December 2020, 12:42 PM	#2568
dudalb Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sacramento Posts: 50,537	Not exactly a white house exit, but Mitch Mcconnell and Trump don;t love each other anymore.
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16th December 2020, 01:58 PM	#2569
ponderingturtle Orthogonal Vector Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 50,743	Originally Posted by dudalb Not exactly a white house exit, but Mitch Mcconnell and Trump don;t love each other anymore. And here I thought those crazy kids could make it last.
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16th December 2020, 02:22 PM	#2570
acbytesla Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 28,587	Rumor now has it that FBI Director Chris Wray is next on Trump's chopping block and the Deputy AG Rosen who will be the acting AG after Barr steps down. He really is imagining some kind of investigation leading to an arrest of Hunter and Joe Biden.
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16th December 2020, 04:03 PM	#2571
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,158	Originally Posted by acbytesla Rumor now has it that FBI Director Chris Wray is next on Trump's chopping block and the Deputy AG Rosen who will be the acting AG after Barr steps down. He really is imagining some kind of investigation leading to an arrest of Hunter and Joe Biden. Why? Apart from the fact there's patently nothing in the story whatsoever, how does he think anything will happen in the ever shrinking time before Biden is inaugurated? Does he imagine Santa is going to send him a golden-ticket iron-clad Biden indictment down his chimney in a few weeks? If Donny's reasoning power has degenerated to that extent, the USA is *well* served by his immediate exit.
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16th December 2020, 04:09 PM	#2572
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,279	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Why? Apart from the fact there's patently nothing in the story whatsoever, how does he think anything will happen in the ever shrinking time before Biden is inaugurated? Does he imagine Santa is going to send him a golden-ticket iron-clad Biden indictment down his chimney in a few weeks? If Donny's reasoning power has degenerated to that extent, the USA is *well* served by his immediate exit. Highlighted assumes facts not in evidence.
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16th December 2020, 06:04 PM	#2573
Meadmaker Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 25,514	Originally Posted by Norman Alexander Why? Apart from the fact there's patently nothing in the story whatsoever, how does he think anything will happen in the ever shrinking time before Biden is inaugurated? Does he imagine Santa is going to send him a golden-ticket iron-clad Biden indictment down his chimney in a few weeks? If Donny's reasoning power has degenerated to that extent, the USA is *well* served by his immediate exit. I'm still not completely convinced that Joe Biden will be the 46th President of the United States. He might be 47th, after Mike Pence. I don't actually expect it to happen, but I wouldn't rule out Trump going so far off the walls that his cabinet goes for the 25th amendment, or the Congress goes for a rapid style impeachment. I don't expect those things to happen. I would be shocked if they did happen, but like so many other things that have happened in the last two months, with any other president it would not have even occurred to me that it's a possibility.
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16th December 2020, 07:10 PM	#2574
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,279	Originally Posted by Meadmaker I'm still not completely convinced that Joe Biden will be the 46th President of the United States. He might be 47th, after Mike Pence. I don't actually expect it to happen, but I wouldn't rule out Trump going so far off the walls that his cabinet goes for the 25th amendment, or the Congress goes for a rapid style impeachment. I don't expect those things to happen. I would be shocked if they did happen, but like so many other things that have happened in the last two months, with any other president it would not have even occurred to me that it's a possibility. More likely to resign on the 19th so Pence can pardon him.
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16th December 2020, 07:15 PM	#2575
Babbylonian Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 13,542	Originally Posted by Trebuchet More likely to resign on the 19th so Pence can pardon him. Which will be hailed by Trumpers as yet another brilliant move, preventing the commie Democrats from falsely prosecuting him.

16th December 2020, 07:16 PM	#2576
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 28,217	One never knows, of course, but I think Trump may be stymied by the principle (or perhaps more like and excuse) Gerald Ford elaborated when he pardoned Nixon: that to accept a pardon carries an implicit admission of guilt. That's something Trump is not very good at.
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16th December 2020, 08:02 PM	#2577
Stacyhs Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: United States Posts: 18,221	Originally Posted by Trebuchet More likely to resign on the 19th so Pence can pardon him. I've been saying that for months.

16th December 2020, 08:04 PM	#2578
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,158	Originally Posted by Trebuchet Highlighted assumes facts not in evidence. Mea culpa.
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16th December 2020, 08:06 PM	#2579
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,158	Originally Posted by Babbylonian Which will be hailed by Trumpers as yet another brilliant move, preventing the commie Democrats from falsely prosecuting him. Even though it won't. But anyhoo....!
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17th December 2020, 05:33 PM	#2580
Jim_MDP Philosopher Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: N.Cal/S.Or Posts: 8,110	Originally Posted by bruto One never knows, of course, but I think Trump may be stymied by the principle (or perhaps more like and excuse) Gerald Ford elaborated when he pardoned Nixon: that to accept a pardon carries an implicit admission of guilt. That's something Trump is not very good at. Arpaio doesn't ascribe to that interpretation, despite a court conviction. Why would T?
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17th December 2020, 07:43 PM	#2581
bruto Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Way way north of Diddy Wah Diddy Posts: 28,217	Originally Posted by Jim_MDP Arpaio doesn't ascribe to that interpretation, despite a court conviction. Why would T? It's probably a vain hope, I admit. But it's a hope. Ofr course the ideal thing, a vainer than vain hope, would be that Trump does the resignation and then on second thought Pence decides..."aw, **** him."
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17th December 2020, 08:27 PM	#2582
DevilsAdvocate Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,584	Originally Posted by bruto It's probably a vain hope, I admit. But it's a hope. Ofr course the ideal thing, a vainer than vain hope, would be that Trump does the resignation and then on second thought Pence decides..."aw, **** him." I have said before that I would not at all be surprised if in mid-January Trump says he maybe might possibly be feeling a bit under the weather and before being flown to Walter Reed, out of an abundance of caution, as many Presidents before have done when going to the hospital, invokes the 25th Amendment making Pence temporarily acting President, only to resume the Presidency shortly thereafter and be shocked, shocked I tell you, that Pence has granted him a full blanket pardon that he totally didn't ask for because he is totally innocent. But, hey, a pardon is a pardon and he'll just have to accept it.
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17th December 2020, 08:33 PM	#2583
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,866	Sure. Pompeo canceled his 900 people party that was supposed to be the start of his 2024 campaign when it turned out that only 30 people would actually come. The reason he gave was that he had been in contact with a suspected Covid case. If the event had been packed he would have gone anyway.
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17th December 2020, 08:50 PM	#2584
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,158	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Sure. Pompeo canceled his 900 people party that was supposed to be the start of his 2024 campaign when it turned out that only 30 people would actually come. The reason he gave was that he had been in contact with a suspected Covid case. If the event had been packed he would have gone anyway. And given Covid to 900 people without one single pang of conscience on his behalf.
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17th December 2020, 09:16 PM	#2585
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,340	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Sure. Pompeo canceled his 900 people party that was supposed to be the start of his 2024 campaign when it turned out that only 30 people would actually come. The reason he gave was that he had been in contact with a suspected Covid case. Who exactly was supposed to be invited to the party anyways? From googling around, I see that the party was supposed to be dedicated to "diplomats serving in dangerous areas"... bug given how poorly the Trump administration has treated members of the civil service, I can't see many career diplomats/public servants being too keen to participate in an event organized by one of the idiots that is messing things up (even if Covid were not an issue).
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17th December 2020, 09:24 PM	#2586
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,846	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Who exactly was supposed to be invited to the party anyways? From googling around, I see that the party was supposed to be dedicated to "diplomats serving in dangerous areas"... bug given how poorly the Trump administration has treated members of the civil service, I can't see many career diplomats/public servants being too keen to participate in an event organized by one of the idiots that is messing things up (even if Covid were not an issue). Having worked in the DR Congo, Central African Republic and South Sudan, I'll just tell you, you don't come home more or less healthy by not knowing how to protect yourself from infectious disease.

17th December 2020, 09:25 PM	#2587
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,158	Originally Posted by Segnosaur Who exactly was supposed to be invited to the party anyways? From googling around, I see that the party was supposed to be dedicated to "diplomats serving in dangerous areas"... bug given how poorly the Trump administration has treated members of the civil service, I can't see many career diplomats/public servants being too keen to participate in an event organized by one of the idiots that is messing things up (even if Covid were not an issue). Who would imagine going to Pompeo's Covid-fest would be more dangerous than serving in dangerous overseas locations...
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17th December 2020, 09:27 PM	#2588
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,846	Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza Sure. Pompeo canceled his 900 people party that was supposed to be the start of his 2024 campaign when it turned out that only 30 people would actually come. The reason he gave was that he had been in contact with a suspected Covid case. If the event had been packed he would have gone anyway. The 2024 Republican primaries are going to be a vomit inducing spectacle. It will be a bunch of neglected dogs trying to show how hard they humped Trump's leg.

17th December 2020, 09:33 PM	#2589
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,866	Originally Posted by Craig4 The 2024 Republican primaries are going to be a vomit inducing spectacle. It will be a bunch of neglected dogs trying to show how hard they humped Trump's leg. Ain't that the truth.
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17th December 2020, 09:41 PM	#2590
Segnosaur Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 17,340	Originally Posted by Craig4 The 2024 Republican primaries are going to be a vomit inducing spectacle. It will be a bunch of neglected dogs trying to show how hard they humped Trump's leg. I figure there will also be a couple of Candidates who try to rewrite history (a la Ben Sasse... "Look at how bad Trump was... ignore the fact that I supported him for 4 years".
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18th December 2020, 01:10 AM	#2591
Firestone Proud Award Award recipient Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Belgium Posts: 2,998	Originally Posted by Craig4 The 2024 Republican primaries are going to be a vomit inducing spectacle. It will be a bunch of neglected dogs trying to show how hard they humped Trump's leg. Why wait until 2024? The 2022 Florida Senate primary, with Roger Stone, Ivanka Trump, and, what's his name, the Bible quoting invertebrate, could be epic.
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18th December 2020, 02:03 AM	#2592
The Great Zaganza Maledictorian Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 14,866	Originally Posted by Firestone Why wait until 2024? The 2022 Florida Senate primary, with Roger Stone, Ivanka Trump, and, what's his name, the Bible quoting invertebrate, could be epic. I can't believe a convicted felon would get so many votes and another convicted felon would get so few. -L.S.
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18th December 2020, 03:03 AM	#2593
Susheel Graduate Poster Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hyderabad, India Posts: 1,771	From what I heard, Pompeo did not "cancel" the party. Basically, he had a party and no one came. He sent out 900 invitations, 90 RSVP'd and only 30 showed up. In fact, he was supposed to speak at the event but decided to tap someone else to proxy for him.
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18th December 2020, 10:43 AM	#2594
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,279	Originally Posted by Susheel From what I heard, Pompeo did not "cancel" the party. Basically, he had a party and no one came. He sent out 900 invitations, 90 RSVP'd and only 30 showed up. In fact, he was supposed to speak at the event but decided to tap someone else to proxy for him. I'm going to have to look it up, but I believe he canceled subsequent parties after that fiasco.
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19th December 2020, 06:45 AM	#2595
Craig4 Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: I live in a swamp Posts: 22,846	Originally Posted by Susheel From what I heard, Pompeo did not "cancel" the party. Basically, he had a party and no one came. He sent out 900 invitations, 90 RSVP'd and only 30 showed up. In fact, he was supposed to speak at the event but decided to tap someone else to proxy for him. Even without the pandemic, why would he invite the diplomats who work for him? He must know his entire workforce hates him.