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View Poll Results: What percentage of U.S. Republicans are truly ******* evil scum?
100% 5 6.76%
90% 16 21.62%
80% 8 10.81%
70% 8 10.81%
60% 5 6.76%
50% 4 5.41%
40% 3 4.05%
30% 7 9.46%
20% 3 4.05%
10% 8 10.81%
Only an idiot from Planet X would say 0% 7 9.46%
Voters: 74. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 14th March 2021, 07:41 AM   #1
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What percentage of U.S. Republicans are truly ******* evil scum?

Let's get straight to the poll.
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Old 14th March 2021, 07:46 AM   #2
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100%, same as democrats
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Republican Voters: 40%
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Old 14th March 2021, 08:12 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Republican Voters: 40%
Republican Politicians 90%
Important distinction, and I agree. I often hear live interviews with politicians pundits on CNN and can tell without looking many times that the person speaking has an (R) behind their name. I have seen so many instances where Republican politicians do the most illogical or egregious thing, I just can't ******* stand them.
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I'm not sure of percentages, but consider applying the "mouse rule."

For those unfamiliar with it, the general wisdom when trapping house mice is that for every one you see there are 6 you don't.
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Let's not overlook one reality. When donald trump emerged as a prospective candidate for US president in 2016, established Republican leaders did everything they could to defeat him. They were almost unanimous that trump was a horrible choice. McConnell, Cruz, Rubio, Graham, they all saw trump for exactly what he was. It was the Republican rank-and-file -- the average Republican voter -- who enthusiastically supported trump and forced the GOP to embrace him. They're still at it. The grassroots Republicans don't care. They see trump for what he isn't and, right to this very minute, no one can persuade them differently.

Fun fact- after four horrible years of trump, seventy-four million Republican voters wanted four more years.

You try and reason with them.
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Applying Hanlon’s razor leaves a pretty small percentage.
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Old 14th March 2021, 09:28 AM   #8
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Originally Posted by shemp View Post
What percentage of U.S. Republicans are truly ******* evil scum?

I expect it is an irrational number.
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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
Let's not overlook one reality. When donald trump emerged as a prospective candidate for US president in 2016, established Republican leaders did everything they could to defeat him. They were almost unanimous that trump was a horrible choice. McConnell, Cruz, Rubio, Graham, they all saw trump for exactly what he was. It was the Republican rank-and-file -- the average Republican voter -- who enthusiastically supported trump and forced the GOP to embrace him. They're still at it. The grassroots Republicans don't care. They see trump for what he isn't and, right to this very minute, no one can persuade them differently.

Fun fact- after four horrible years of trump, seventy-four million Republican voters wanted four more years.

You try and reason with them.
The Republican/Democratic establishment machine hated Trump because he purported to be an anti-establishment populist. The voters wanted an anti-establishment populist. It was and continues to be very unfortunate that this valid cause is being led by a politically-toxic an incompetent individual.
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
Republican Voters: 40%
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GOP voters elected all those ********. The evidence is how many millions of voters wanted 4 more years of misery.

I went with 70% thinking ~30% (I have no idea of the actual number but some amount > 0) have yet to figure out they should leave the party.

IMO an assessment of the GOP has to consider that 'normal' Republicans have left the party. Thus the remaining are mostly pond scum.
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GOP voters elected all those ********. The evidence is how many millions of voters wanted 4 more years of misery.

The question is, how much of that is adequately explained by stupidity.
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Old 14th March 2021, 09:52 AM   #12
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Republicans almost to a person don't vote for their representatives, they vote against Democrats.

They have been raised to believe that preventing Democratic Rule is the only way to slow the downfall of the US.
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Applying Hanlonís razor leaves a pretty small percentage.
Exactly, the ones I work with and just generally know are either ensconced in conspiracy theories (which include things like anti-gravity and Zero point energy), convinced by anti-socialist as well as anit-democratic (the political party and the method of governance) propaganda or just consumed by their own hatred of specific people they've never met (like the Clintons, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Obamas ECT). A few are anarchists or libertarians (who just want to tear the whole thing down or help it implode). Less still, but some, straight up racists. It's only the latter groupings where the negative consequences to others (in the broadest efficacy) is considered inconsequential or even relished, where the 'truly ******* evil scum' moniker is duly earned.
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Well, no small number of analysts have speculated that the reason why lower income Republicans vote against their own interests is that they don’t mind being somewhat hurt as long as “those folks” get hurt more.

Going out of your way to hurt others is evil.
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I recall listening to an interview on a New York City moderate news radio station, way back in Spring 2020. The interviewee was a mid-level union official, from one of the construction unions. That is hard-core blue collar. The membership was largely for trump, though the union officials made it clear there was no way the union could endorse trump. Their reason had to do with trump being anti-union and supporting anti-union factions within the Republican Party. I can remember the union official was especially critical of the man trump had named Labor Secretary. The union guy said, "He's killing us. Killing us!"

The union official explained in the interview, he really did believe that union workers in a place like New York City were voting against their own self-interest when they voted for donald trump. He said, "I asked the guys," what would the Democratic candidate have to offer you to get your support? He said it boiled down to, "What do you want from them?" He said for the most part the guys started talking about what they didn't want. He tried to steer them to what it was they DID want. "What can the Democratic candidate offer you that would get your vote." That they mostly weren't able to specify anything particular they needed, just, 'cut taxes' and 'keep the military strong.'

As he said, that didn't really give the candidate -- whoever the candidate turned out to be -- much to work with.

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I've gone with 30%.

Almost all of the remaining 70% are deluded, ignorant, contrarian, downright stupid, or insane.

Or a combination of some or all of the above.
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As the question is asked of today, to remain Republican in light of the recent past is willfully totalitarian, as is borne out by the newly introduced, massive voting restrictions with single purpose in mind. Foul as foul play gets, base as low-minded motivation can be. So, 90%, with the other 10% hopeful reformers.
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Originally Posted by newyorkguy View Post
I recall listening to an interview on a New York City moderate news radio station, way back in Spring 2020. The interviewee was a mid-level union official, from one of the construction unions. That is hard-core blue collar. The membership was largely for trump, though the union officials made it clear there was no way the union could endorse trump. Their reason had to do with trump being anti-union and supporting anti-union factions within the Republican Party. I can remember the union official was especially critical of the man trump had named Labor Secretary. The union guy said, "He's killing us. Killing us!"

The union official explained in the interview, he really did believe that union workers in a place like New York City were voting against their own self-interest when they voted for donald trump. He said, "I asked the guys," what would the Democratic candidate have to offer you to get your support? He said it boiled down to, "What do you want from them?" He said for the most part the guys started talking about what they didn't want. He tried to steer them to what it was they DID want. "What can the Democratic candidate offer you that would get your vote." That they mostly weren't able to specify anything particular they needed, just, 'cut taxes' and 'keep the military strong.'

As he said, that didn't really give the candidate -- whoever the candidate turned out to be -- much to work with.
Too dumb to realise that the left are far more likely to be pro-Union, and pro the blue collar worker than the right.

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Trump still has about 80 percent support among Republicans. That's after January 6th. Anyone who supports Trump after the 6th is scum. They are a disloyal underclass. A lesser class of citizen.
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The question is, how much of that is adequately explained by stupidity.


Any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil.


There have been studies that show a whole lot of Republican voters are just depressing pig-ignorant about the actual policies and actions of the people they've voting for, so they may not be actively "evil", but in their stupidity, they're functionally the same as frothing-at-the-mouth, over-the-top, Mr. Burns-stealing-candy-from-a-baby-type evil.
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Republican Voters: 40%
Republican Politicians 90%
Looks like "evil ******* scum" is the new "nazi".
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If the Marschstiefel fits....
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Looks like "evil ******* scum" is the new "nazi".
You'll have to admit that the old nazi was pretty much evil ******* scum.
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Applying Hanlonís razor leaves a pretty small percentage.
To their throats?
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GOP voters elected all those ********. The evidence is how many millions of voters wanted 4 more years of misery.
My thoughts exactly. You can't absolve voters from their role in voting for the very politicians that are causing the damage.

Perhaps in 2016, we could accept that many republican voters simply didn't know better... they may have been gullible or mistaken thinking Trump might actually "pivot" towards being a decent president. Or that Republican congress-critters might actually act with at least some integrity.

But in 2020/2021, after 4 years where Trump called neo-nazis "fine people", got impeached twice, locked children in cages, saw thousands of unnecessary Covid deaths, and an attempted overthrow of a democratically elected president, there is no way anyone can deny exactly what Trump is.

And republican congress-critters have almost universally followed along with him... heaping praise on him, defending him from impeachment, and following along lock-step with his "election fraud" claims.
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Looks like "evil ******* scum" is the new "nazi".
what do you call 9 people sitting at a table with a Nazi?
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what do you call 9 people sitting at a table with a Nazi?
Fine people seems to be the proper republican answer.
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what do you call 9 people sitting at a table with a Nazi?
A Trump cabinet meeting?
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
10 Nazi.
I did nazi that coming.
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Probably about the same percentage as democrats. A very low number.
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Probably about the same percentage as democrats. A very low number.
Please point to any democratic politician who has praised neo-nazis as "fine people", advocated for breaking up families and locking kids in cages, had has advocated for overturning a free and secure democratic election.

Then, point to any voters who supported such a democratic politician who did all of that.
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Fine people seems to be the proper republican answer.
Nominated for pith - great shot.
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All you need to know is this.

The vote for the CARES Act under President Trump was near-unanimous, because for all of their faults the Democrats knew that that bill was what was best for the country, and doing what is best for the country was more important to them than trolling, gotchaing, or put up a meaningless symbolic fight against the Republicans and President Trump.

Not one Republican voted in favor of Biden's Pandemic Relief bill last week.

That's the difference. The Republicans see the American people as acceptable losses in their war with the Democrats.
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what do you call 9 people sitting at a table with a Nazi?
Nothing. The Nazi is on his own...
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
what do you call 9 people sitting at a table with a Nazi?
... with a "nazi".
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
It's the 'two minute hate' from 1984. Conservatives never want to defend their evil, so they always attack any discussion of their evil. Therefore, their having entire networks dedicated to doing exactly what they claim others are doing doesn't need discussed. The merits of the accusation doesn't need discussed. Whether in general or the specifics of their racism, anti-democracy, criminality, economic looting or maladministration, if you accuse them of anything not complimentary they think they 'win' by calling you biased. This turns the discussion to defense of you, and not their actions. It is absurd because it assumes as a priori that seeing wrongdoing in them is inherently wrong. At best it assumes a balance in wrongness on different 'sides' which just isn't a natural law. It isn't even a tendency.

It fits this thread better than most, but really the time has come where the OP asks a question once inherently bad faith but now more than deserving of serious consideration because of their actions.
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Originally Posted by eeyore1954 View Post
Probably about the same percentage as democrats. A very low number.
SO racism and facism is OK with you?
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