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Tags 2020 elections , Elizabeth Warren , Kamala Harris , Karen Bass , political speculation , vice presidential choices

View Poll Results: Who will Biden choose as running mate?
Elizabeth Warren 3 6.25%
Gretchen Whitmer 0 0%
Kamala Harris 23 47.92%
Karen Bass 3 6.25%
Keisha Lance Bottoms 2 4.17%
Michelle Lujan Grisham 1 2.08%
Stacey Abrams 0 0%
Susan Rice 5 10.42%
Tammy Duckworth 5 10.42%
Val Demings 1 2.08%
Another US Senator 0 0%
Another Governor 0 0%
Someone else 1 2.08%
On Planet X, Mike Pence will be VEEP Forever 4 8.33%
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Old 12th August 2020, 10:12 AM   #361
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I wouldn't have said so. I think Captain_Swoop was saying that Kamala personally is descended from a rich slave owning family and that this makes it a little awkward for her if she wants to present herself as some kind of avatar for black people struggling with the legacy of slavery.
First of all, he was quoting a tweet, not posting it himself. And second the implication of the quote is that black people are the descendant of slaves and so on, which is a claim of a collectivist view.
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Old 12th August 2020, 10:15 AM   #362
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I wouldn't have said so. I think Captain_Swoop was saying that Kamala personally is descended from a rich slave owning family and that this makes it a little awkward for her if she wants to present herself as some kind of avatar for black people struggling with the legacy of slavery.
I suppose it depends on what is more important, one out of a thousand relatives from 10 generations ago, or the struggles that she and her family have had to overcome.

Statistically all Europeans are descended from Charlemagne, does this mean that someone who has dragged themselves up by their bootstraps should be derided because they're "royalty"
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First of all, he was quoting a tweet, not posting it himself. And second the implication of the quote is that black people are the descendant of slaves and so on, which is a claim of a collectivist view.
posting and agreeing with it.
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Originally Posted by rockysmith76 View Post
posting and agreeing with it.
Nonsense. He's clearly quoting someone else in order to highlight the stupidity of his words. Dinesh D'Souza is a terrible human being.

This can't be the first time you see Swoop quote Trump or one of his sycophants just to inform us of what they are posting. Reporting is not agreeing.
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The black descendants of white slave owners, famously wealthy and powerful people. /s

Unless the ancestry linkage between Harris and the slaveowning family is pretty recent, there's a decent chance that Harris's black ancestor was both a slave and the direct descendant of a white slave owner. Slavers raping their slaves, and sometimes producing children, isn't unusual.

This is, of course, making the very shaky assumption that Dinesh D'Souza isn't just totally full of ****, like usual.
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The black descendants of white slave owners, famously wealthy and powerful people. /s

Unless the ancestry linkage between Harris and the slaveowning family is pretty recent, there's a decent chance that Harris's black ancestor was both a slave and the direct descendant of a white slave owner. Slavers raping their slaves, and sometimes producing children, isn't unusual.

This is, of course, making the very shaky assumption that Dinesh D'Souza isn't just totally full of ****, like usual.
This quote from her father seems to be the origin of this claim:
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“My roots go back, within my lifetime, to my paternal grandmother Miss Chrishy (née Christiana Brown, descendant of Hamilton Brown who is on record as plantation and slave owner and founder of Brown’s Town) and to my maternal grandmother Miss Iris (née Iris Finegan, farmer and educator, from Aenon Town and Inverness, ancestry unknown to me). The Harris name comes from my paternal grandfather Joseph Alexander Harris, land-owner and agricultural ‘produce’ exporter (mostly pimento or all-spice), who died in 1939 one year after I was born and is buried in the church yard of the magnificent Anglican Church which Hamilton Brown built in Brown’s Town (and where, as a child, I learned the catechism, was baptized and confirmed, and served as an acolyte).”
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Nonsense. He's clearly quoting someone else in order to highlight the stupidity of his words. Dinesh D'Souza is a terrible human being.

This can't be the first time you see Swoop quote Trump or one of his sycophants just to inform us of what they are posting. Reporting is not agreeing.
If he's doing it that much he clearly likes their work, so he clearly agrees with them. Dinesh D'Souza is a fine human being with the same right to his opinion that you or I have.
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If he's doing it that much he clearly likes their work, so he clearly agrees with them. Dinesh D'Souza is a fine human being with the same right to his opinion that you or I have.
Captain_Swoop is a fine human being a pretty decent guy with the same right to his opinion that you or I have. You should read some of his posts where he isn't quoting others to get a feel for why he quotes people he doesn't actually agree with.
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If he's doing it that much he clearly likes their work, so he clearly agrees with them.
So if I quote you saying something stupid, as I just have, that means I agree with you?

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No, he's not; yes, he does.
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So if I quote you saying something stupid, as I just have, that means I agree with you?



No, he's not; yes, he does.
Yes he is and yes he does, and no, you trying to gaslight. Swoop clearly enjoys reading Weber and pals.
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If he's doing it that much he clearly likes their work, so he clearly agrees with them.
Saying things that you have literally just been told are not true is just stupid.

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IDinesh D'Souza is a fine human being.......
Just trolling the libs, then. Good for you.

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Yes he is and yes he does, and no, you trying to gaslight.
Disagreeing with you is not gaslighting.

Stop lying. No one here believes you.
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... Dinesh D'Souza is a fine human being with the same right to his opinion that you or I have.

And who happens to be bat-crap insane.
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Saying things that you have literally just been told are not true is just stupid.
More gaslighting, okay that's fine.

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Just trolling the libs, then. Good for you.
Why would you do that? It's like fish in a barrel.
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Why would you do that? It's like fish in a barrel.
Says the guy who keeps shooting himself in the foot.
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Says the guy who keeps shooting himself in the foot.
Man, how frustrated are you? Kamala will fit the Liberal Bill, and all the Dems and kumbiyaa together about how bad the Orange Man is.
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Man, how frustrated are you?
On a scale of one to a hundred? Zero. You're nowhere near as good at trolling as you believe. I've seen magnificent trolls in my time. You're not even moving the needle. Here's a tip for you: trolling has to hit a nerve; and that only works if it's internally consistent and has a basis in truth, no matter how shallow. If it's just random proclamations it not only reveals itself immediately, but it loses potency as well.

Hope that helps for your illustrious career in the future.

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Well, they will be correct. Orange man IS bad. Everyone can see it except his cultists.
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So it looks like Bernie's vote divider is getting her reward.
Who will be the first Canadian president? Kamala Harris or Ted Cruz?
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Dinesh D'Souza has gone in to overdrive
Here are a few of the screeds of tweets on the issue he has posted today.

Many leftists are desperately waiting for @KevinMKruse to refute my contention Kamala Harris is descended from one of Jamaica’s largest slaveowners. But he’s silent because he knows it’s true. No squid-like cloud of obfuscation, not even from Kruse, can alter the crushing fact

The “first black woman” hoopla is based on the idea that finally a female descendant of slaves can make it all the way to the White House. The problem is that Kamala Harris is descended from one of Jamaica’s largest slaveowners. This exposes the whole morality tale as a farce!

The supreme irony is that the party of slavery that demands public dissociation from all connections with slavery has nominated for the vice presidency a woman who is the descendant & beneficiary of one of the largest slave planters in Jamaica. How do they get out of this one?
I'd guess a majority, probably a substantial majority, of African Americans and Afro-Jamaicans are also descended from slave owners, simply because rape of female slaves by their masters was an everyday occurrence.
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So it looks like Bernie's vote divider is getting her reward.
Who will be the first Canadian president? Kamala Harris or Ted Cruz?
Definitely not Harris. Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta. Kamala Harris was born in Oakland, California.
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Ben Shapiro said:
“Kamala Harris is a far-left radical with a shocking inability to connect on a personal level; she’s rehearsed and mechanical...”
And then the universe imploded with irony.

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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
Ben Shapiro said:
“Kamala Harris is a far-left radical with a shocking inability to connect on a personal level; she’s rehearsed and mechanical...”
And then the universe imploded with irony.

The first time I heard Ben talk, I thought some twitter jerk had sped up his audio to make him sound like a weird dweeb.
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Definitely not Harris. Ted Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta. Kamala Harris was born in Oakland, California.
"Canadian" is one of many well-known racist code terms for black people.
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"Canadian" is one of many well-known racist code terms for black people.
Oh for crap's sake, when did that happen? When will these people understand that the Civil War is over, and their side lost?
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Man, how frustrated are you? Kamala will fit the Liberal Bill, and all the Dems and kumbiyaa together about how bad the Orange Man is.
I know the black woman scares you. I'm sorry.

Also do you ever intend to answer any questions in the thread you started after the other thread you started got rightfully sent to AAH?
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So it looks like Bernie's vote divider is getting her reward.
Who will be the first Canadian president? Kamala Harris or Ted Cruz?
Is you from the south, lupus? Nice one!
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Ben Shapiro said:
“Kamala Harris is a far-left radical with a shocking inability to connect on a personal level; she’s rehearsed and mechanical...”
And then the universe imploded with irony.

He left out uppity.
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So Kamala Harris is a far left radical that's still not left enough for Twitter.

2020 everyone.
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I know the black woman scares you. I'm sorry.

Also do you ever intend to answer any questions in the thread you started after the other thread you started got rightfully sent to AAH?
No, I just note your apparent obsession with racism. Was that supposed to be a dig? I guess that's better than the other guy's triggerisms.
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No, I just note your apparent obsession with racism. Was that supposed to be a dig? I guess that's better than the other guy's triggerisms.
Ever going to answer those questions?
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Ever going to answer those questions?
Flex that obsession! Or gain a more versatile approach....
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So Kamala Harris is a far left radical that's still not left enough for Twitter.

2020 everyone.
The Federalist, a right wing rag, is selling "Kamala is a cop" T-shirts.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/06/21...-now-for-sale/

Who is this for? All the bitter Bernie bros that read the Federalist?
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Oh for crap's sake, when did that happen? When will these people understand that the Civil War is over, and their side lost?
Oh, they know. It's why they have to play the tee-hee seekrit code word game. Do you think they'd do so otherwise?
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So Kamala Harris is a far left radical that's still not left enough for Twitter.

2020 everyone.
For Trump, anyone with a 'D' after their name is a 'far left radical'.
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She said she believed Biden's rape accuser but had no problem accepting his vp offer https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/11...rape-accusers/
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There were more than a few very negative comments that I'm sure will be recycled by Trump's team. IIRC, Kamala had some rather unfavorable things to say about Biden's record on opposing desegregation via busing.
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