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Old 14th January 2021, 05:15 AM   #1121
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Trump is just lulling people in to a false sense of security apparently.
Space Force are coming!

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DO NOT go to the capital or anywhere in DC for Inauguration Day! If Trump wanted us there he would have attended himself. He needs us at home for the Space Force GBS address. Mass arrests will be filmed so no need to be there live. Antifa wants us to look violent! #SpaceForceCard

As I have said repeatedly, Trump needs to lull criminals into a false sense of security for mass arrests on January 20th. He even gave us a wink with “no law-breaking”. Of course, he will announce real end to “law-breaking” by attendees, using Space Force’s GBS to tell the world.

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Old 14th January 2021, 05:52 AM   #1122
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Pretty clear this was not a protest that go tout of control but a planned, attack. Question now becomes just how high was it plotted?
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Old 14th January 2021, 06:29 AM   #1123
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
As I have said repeatedly, Trump needs to lull criminals into a false sense of security for mass arrests on January 20th. He even gave us a wink with “no law-breaking”. Of course, he will announce real end to “law-breaking” by attendees, using Space Force’s GBS to tell the world.

Too bad the Global Broadcast Service only transmits to specific military receivers. I'm guessing this is what people were talking about elsewhere when they seemed to believe that Trump could override and broadcast to every TV in the world.
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Old 14th January 2021, 06:36 AM   #1124
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Originally Posted by dudalb View Post
Pretty clear this was not a protest that go tout of control but a planned, attack. Question now becomes just how high was it plotted?
What I wonder about is the following
Seeing it indeed looks like this whole action was planned much more thoroughly than earlier imagined.
Why did they back off so quickly? One single shot was all it took to end the immediate insurgency.
That is what is puzzling me.
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Old 14th January 2021, 06:41 AM   #1125
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Originally Posted by erwinl View Post
What I wonder about is the following
Seeing it indeed looks like this whole action was planned much more thoroughly than earlier imagined.
Why did they back off so quickly? One single shot was all it took to end the immediate insurgency.
That is what is puzzling me.

That's the down side of relying on the Useful Idiots as their cannon fodder. Most of them didn't really expect to get that far, or to face actual deadly force in opposition. They collapsed under fire, and by the time the serious ones got to the front lines to try to salvage the mess, the primary targets had already made it to safety. By that point, this battle in the coup was lost, and a strategic retreat in hopes of keeping their forces alive and out of jail was probably the best call they could make.
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Old 14th January 2021, 06:50 AM   #1126
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
That's the down side of relying on the Useful Idiots as their cannon fodder. Most of them didn't really expect to get that far, or to face actual deadly force in opposition. They collapsed under fire, and by the time the serious ones got to the front lines to try to salvage the mess, the primary targets had already made it to safety. By that point, this battle in the coup was lost, and a strategic retreat in hopes of keeping their forces alive and out of jail was probably the best call they could make.
Exactly. It would have took discipline,trained troops to pull this off and the Magarats were anything but disciplined and trained.
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Old 14th January 2021, 06:53 AM   #1127
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Originally Posted by Armitage72 View Post
Too bad the Global Broadcast Service only transmits to specific military receivers. I'm guessing this is what people were talking about elsewhere when they seemed to believe that Trump could override and broadcast to every TV in the world.
Tsk... you haven’t been keeping up with the latest technology... Trump will be using a particle beam....
“...It fiddles with the screen itself injecting a state of the art particle beam to override the screen and project new content.”
....

And that appears to be a serious answer.....
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Old 14th January 2021, 07:23 AM   #1128
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Tsk... you haven’t been keeping up with the latest technology... Trump will be using a particle beam....
“...It fiddles with the screen itself injecting a state of the art particle beam to override the screen and project new content.”
....

And that appears to be a serious answer.....
I think someone watched Wonder Woman 1984 and thought it was a documentary.
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Old 14th January 2021, 07:29 AM   #1129
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Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller View Post
I think someone watched Wonder Woman 1984 and thought it was a documentary.
Apparently, Rudy thinks Game of Thrones was a documentary about medieval England.
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Old 14th January 2021, 07:32 AM   #1130
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Originally Posted by Darat View Post
Tsk... you haven’t been keeping up with the latest technology... Trump will be using a particle beam....
“...It fiddles with the screen itself injecting a state of the art particle beam to override the screen and project new content.”
....

And that appears to be a serious answer.....
Originally Posted by Hercules Rockefeller View Post
I think someone watched Wonder Woman 1984 and thought it was a documentary.
They're not all there

See how far you can watch this interview with the Q-Anon shaman, before giving up. I made about 40 seconds. He starts with moderately conventional conspiracies (yada yada world bank yada yada and then... um... what the no-longer updated crank.net website would have classed as illucid

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Old 14th January 2021, 07:37 AM   #1131
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Originally Posted by erwinl View Post
What I wonder about is the following
Seeing it indeed looks like this whole action was planned much more thoroughly than earlier imagined.
Why did they back off so quickly? One single shot was all it took to end the immediate insurgency.
That is what is puzzling me.
Every timeline I can find gets really murky after 2:44pm (when the woman was shot by police). There seems to be 3 hours or more after that before the building was considered secure again, but I can find little detail of what occurred during that time. There is tons of video online, but most seem to be before the shooting.
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Old 14th January 2021, 07:38 AM   #1132
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Apparently due to the coup failing, Trump is refusing to pay Giuliani - not even travelling expenses

Who could possibly have foreseen this?
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Old 14th January 2021, 07:38 AM   #1133
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
That's the down side of relying on the Useful Idiots as their cannon fodder. Most of them didn't really expect to get that far, or to face actual deadly force in opposition. They collapsed under fire, and by the time the serious ones got to the front lines to try to salvage the mess, the primary targets had already made it to safety. By that point, this battle in the coup was lost, and a strategic retreat in hopes of keeping their forces alive and out of jail was probably the best call they could make.
In other words, the usual Trumpian incompetence, concerning any organization.

Still. One would think ex-military would be more competent than this, but even they, zip tie guy for instance, were more interested in fooling around, as opposed to staying focussed on what their perceived mission was.

And a good thing to it was, that none of the participants had the conviction like what was shown on december 21st, 1989 in Bucharest.
This was their chance, slim as it was, and I don't think (hope) they will get another one quite like this again.
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Old 14th January 2021, 07:41 AM   #1134
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Every timeline I can find gets really murky after 2:44pm (when the woman was shot by police). There seems to be 3 hours or more after that before the building was considered secure again, but I can find little detail of what occurred during that time. There is tons of video online, but most seem to be before the shooting.
I can imagine there to be quite a large period to be between the last of the insurrectionists leaving the building and, say, the Secret Service, declaring the building secure again.
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Old 14th January 2021, 07:43 AM   #1135
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I can imagine there to be quite a large period to be between the last of the insurrectionists leaving the building and, say, the Secret Service, declaring the building secure again.
The Capitol is a big building, probably with a lot of nooks and crannies where one could hide or where one could jam a bomb or Ebola vail or trained attack badger into. "Clearing" a building such as that must be an absolute nightmare.
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Old 14th January 2021, 07:47 AM   #1136
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Originally Posted by erwinl View Post
What I wonder about is the following
Seeing it indeed looks like this whole action was planned much more thoroughly than earlier imagined.
Why did they back off so quickly? One single shot was all it took to end the immediate insurgency.
That is what is puzzling me.
Of the thousands of people gathered for the rally and subsequently marching up Pennsylvania Avenue to the Capitol, it would be absurd to suggest that all of them planned to burst through police lines and go into the Capitol building to threaten or attack legislators, and it would be absurd to suggest that none of them did.

There were plenty of people in that mob who didn't expect to be in the Capitol building, and plenty more who hadn't given any thought to how people might react once they got inside. Most of the members of that mob were totally clueless. I'm sure that they are baffled even now as to why anyone was so upset. The sudden sight of a dead or dying woman caused an awful lot of people to wake from their fantasy. Even then, I don't think most of them could actually process what was happening. They were a bit stunned.

The fact that they were stunned, though, just goes to show the depth of their denial of reality.
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The Capitol is a big building, probably with a lot of nooks and crannies where one could hide or where one could jam a bomb or Ebola vail or trained attack badger into. "Clearing" a building such as that must be an absolute nightmare.


Particularly when they had already found actual pipe bombs in several locations. This was just about the worst nightmare for any security service. There could have been more bombs just about anywhere.
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They're not all there

See how far you can watch this interview with the Q-Anon shaman, before giving up. I made about 40 seconds. He starts with moderately conventional conspiracies (yada yada world bank yada yada and then... um... what the no-longer updated crank.net website would have classed as illucid

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Yeah after about 40 seconds he suddenly ratchets it up to the "Wait, WHAT???" level. And it goes on for ten minutes. There was a time when people like this were put into institutions. Maybe that wasn't such a bad idea.
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Particularly when they had already found actual pipe bombs in several locations. This was just about the worst nightmare for any security service. There could have been more bombs just about anywhere.
I was part of the security team on a Ticonderoga Class guided missile cruiser in the Navy. You never realize how many places you could had something in a space exist until you have to be the one to go "I declare this space safe for reentry."
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Yeah after about 40 seconds he suddenly ratchets it up to the "Wait, WHAT???" level. And it goes on for ten minutes. There was a time when people like this were put into institutions. Maybe that wasn't such a bad idea.
I remember, not long ago at all, when that was the appeal of interviewing Alex Jones. He would start of reasonable and quickly devolve into ranting and yelling, spewing conspiracy theories, waving papers around, more yelling and ranting about conspiracies. A fun crazy man for comic relief. He seemed so unhinged and crazy as to seem actually harmless.

I guess that behavior has wider appeal than we realized, and not as comic relief.
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How many of the people arrested have been confirmed as Antifa? Surely Matt Gaetz and others were not BSing when they said the unrest was caused by left-wing agitators.
How can we even be sure that Matt Gaetz is not antifa?
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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
A lawyer no less!

Trump is just lulling people in to a false sense of security apparently.
Space Force are coming!

Brian Anderson tweets
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DO NOT go to the capital or anywhere in DC for Inauguration Day! If Trump wanted us there he would have attended himself. He needs us at home for the Space Force GBS address. Mass arrests will be filmed so no need to be there live. Antifa wants us to look violent! #SpaceForceCard

As I have said repeatedly, Trump needs to lull criminals into a false sense of security for mass arrests on January 20th. He even gave us a wink with “no law-breaking”. Of course, he will announce real end to “law-breaking” by attendees, using Space Force’s GBS to tell the world.

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How can we even be sure that Matt Gaetz is not antifa?
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What is "GBS"?
Global Broadcasting System. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Broadcast_Service

Fodder for conspiracy theoriest because they think it can be used to take over all the airwaves and broadcast the order for the uprising or the video from the Ring or the brown note or whatever.
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What is "GBS"?
Global Broadcast Service.


(I had never heard of it, either, but I guessed at the acronym, and it's a thing.)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Broadcast_Service
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See how far you can watch this interview with the Q-Anon shaman, before giving up. I made about 40 seconds.
I went about 7 minutes. It's a shirtless clown wearing buffalo horns and face paint. At that point, it's poorly written entertainment. I only stopped when I did because I felt he was becoming repetitive.
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Global Broadcast Service

I'm not sure why they keep specifying "Space Force", though. It seems to be equally associated with all of our military branches.
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OK, so apparently there are several of us who get up & check in here before going out for the day all at about the same time...
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I'm not sure why they keep specifying "Space Force", though. It seems to be equally associated with all of our military branches.
Because Space Force is Trump's creation, so it's the most trustworthy to MAGA weirdos.
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I'm not sure why they keep specifying "Space Force", though. It seems to be equally associated with all of our military branches.
Because it's their Messiah's creation, probably; he set it up all by himself, so it must be personally loyal to him, right?

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Recently resigned D.C. chief has pointed to the bomb threats at RNC and DNC HQs as a major component of how things unraveled.

Fingers are pointed every way over the national guard issue, but that salient detail of the timeline is a huge sign of coordinated action.
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Global Broadcast Service

I'm not sure why they keep specifying "Space Force", though. It seems to be equally associated with all of our military branches.
I was listening the other day to some yapper give a list of Donald Trump's accomplishments, and Space Force was way up high on the list. Trump himself has bragged about it. I think the MAGAs somehow really believe that the establishment of Space Force was a truly magnificent accomplishment, so they would want to include that as part of their bragging at every turn.


All he did was take the Air Force Space Command, and reorganize the chain of command a bit. It was probably a good idea, but it was hardly a major accomplishment.


A clown like the one who gave us that prediction about using GBS would no doubt attribute it's amazing abilities as one of Trump's superpowers.
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I was listening the other day to some yapper give a list of Donald Trump's accomplishments, and Space Force was way up high on the list. Trump himself has bragged about it. I think the MAGAs somehow really believe that the establishment of Space Force was a truly magnificent accomplishment, so they would want to include that as part of their bragging at every turn.


All he did was take the Air Force Space Command, and reorganize the chain of command a bit. It was probably a good idea, but it was hardly a major accomplishment.


A clown like the one who gave us that prediction about using GBS would no doubt attribute it's amazing abilities as one of Trump's superpowers.
But it’s SPACE Force!

Since last week I’ve read a lot of the nonsense these nutters have written and you are right, Space ForceTM is a big thing for them.

Must be the association with lasers and light sabers and all that futuristic stuff the government got from the Roswell aliens.
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Either that or it's because so many of them are space cadets.

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Either that or it's because so many of them are space cadets.

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You read some of the stuff and you have to wonder how they manage to live in the real world, we thought some of the 9/11 “truthers” were nutters with their holographic planes and what not, these lot make the truthers seem sensible. ETA: Mind you many seem to be truthers as well.
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One thing they were right about - the media di stop having Covid as the number one story!
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Originally Posted by Squeegee Beckenheim View Post
Apparently due to the coup failing, Trump is refusing to pay Giuliani - not even travelling expenses

Who could possibly have foreseen this?
Hey he just has to stay on Brand. A Trump Never Pays His Debts is the family moto after all.
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I'm not sure why they keep specifying "Space Force", though. It seems to be equally associated with all of our military branches.
Because it sounds cool and Trump made it, clearly to fight the demonic child eaters of international jewry.
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