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Old Yesterday, 07:43 PM   #2081
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Originally Posted by gnome View Post
As a matter of fact, I think there was a period of time where it was considered the more acceptable form of address compared to "black", which so far as I know has switched places. In my experience few object to referring to "black" people, but other terms are preferred, such as "African-American" or "person of color".

I would expect anyone that had actually lived through the time since be aware of it, but old speaking habits die hard.

From the 80s:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EWystGDXkAIUGiW.jpg
I'm looking forward to the day when it's just "people".
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Old Yesterday, 08:40 PM   #2082
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Sort of--I mean, there will always be reasons to refer to someone's appearance, like "That redhead over there." or "the tall one."

Also no matter how color blind more civil people behave, as long as there are bigots, discriminating against people who look different will be a problem, and we need to be able to talk about it.
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Old Today, 05:53 AM   #2083
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
I'm looking forward to the day when it's just "people".
Iíll bet if weíre still around 1,000 years from now, everyone will be a pleasant shade of brown.
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Old Today, 06:01 AM   #2084
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post
Iíll bet if weíre still around 1,000 years from now, everyone will be a pleasant shade of brown.
What we need is a great big melting pot.

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Old Today, 06:21 AM   #2085
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post
Iíll bet if weíre still around 1,000 years from now, everyone will be a pleasant shade of brown.

There was a short story that I read in elementary school or junior high that I've been unable to identify or locate since then, so I'm not sure if it was a legitimately published story or something created for a textbook.
It's set in the future, when humanity's skin and hair have become a uniform shade of gray, although eye color has expanded significantly. A teacher, intending to teach his class about the different races that used to exist, gives his class an assignment to investigate their family trees and discover what races their ancestors were. This has the side effect of reintroducing racism based on ancestry. In retrospect, it doesn't really make sense, since if humanity is this blended, then everyone will have every race in their ancestry. It starts with taunts like "My ancestors owned your ancestors", moves to some students calling other students "animals", and culminates in physical assault. The teacher, horrified by the effects of his lesson, is able to shame the students into abandoning their new behavior.
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Old Today, 06:49 AM   #2086
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Originally Posted by Fast Eddie B View Post
Iíll bet if weíre still around 1,000 years from now, everyone will be a pleasant shade of brown.
Did you get that from South Park?

(There was an episode where time travelers from the future were coming to South park to find jobs. It was explained that they all looked grey as they were a mix of all races and the language was incompressible as it was a mix of all languages)

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Originally Posted by Captain_Swoop View Post
What we need is a great big melting pot.

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That is ...

remarkably cheesy.

Also very bad.
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Originally Posted by Armitage72 View Post
There was a short story that I read in elementary school or junior high that I've been unable to identify or locate since then, so I'm not sure if it was a legitimately published story or something created for a textbook.
It's set in the future, when humanity's skin and hair have become a uniform shade of gray, although eye color has expanded significantly. A teacher, intending to teach his class about the different races that used to exist, gives his class an assignment to investigate their family trees and discover what races their ancestors were. This has the side effect of reintroducing racism based on ancestry. In retrospect, it doesn't really make sense, since if humanity is this blended, then everyone will have every race in their ancestry. It starts with taunts like "My ancestors owned your ancestors", moves to some students calling other students "animals", and culminates in physical assault. The teacher, horrified by the effects of his lesson, is able to shame the students into abandoning their new behavior.

Plenty of cultures have managed to find ways to maintain bigotry without any need for differences in skin color.

Skin color just makes it easier.
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Originally Posted by Armitage72 View Post
There was a short story that I read in elementary school or junior high that I've been unable to identify or locate since then, so I'm not sure if it was a legitimately published story or something created for a textbook.
It's set in the future, when humanity's skin and hair have become a uniform shade of gray, although eye color has expanded significantly. A teacher, intending to teach his class about the different races that used to exist, gives his class an assignment to investigate their family trees and discover what races their ancestors were. This has the side effect of reintroducing racism based on ancestry. In retrospect, it doesn't really make sense, since if humanity is this blended, then everyone will have every race in their ancestry. It starts with taunts like "My ancestors owned your ancestors", moves to some students calling other students "animals", and culminates in physical assault. The teacher, horrified by the effects of his lesson, is able to shame the students into abandoning their new behavior.
There was an experiment with elementary school kids done in the 50s, where half the class was assigned to wear brown collars, and the other not. The collar kids were arbitrarily shamed by the teacher, and the other kids followed suit. It was heartbreaking to see one little girl off by herself on the playground because no one would talk to her. I can only imagine the psychological trauma the experiment caused.
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Originally Posted by alfaniner View Post
There was an experiment with elementary school kids done in the 50s, where half the class was assigned to wear brown collars, and the other not. The collar kids were arbitrarily shamed by the teacher, and the other kids followed suit. It was heartbreaking to see one little girl off by herself on the playground because no one would talk to her. I can only imagine the psychological trauma the experiment caused.
Our 8th grade civics class did something similar, only using earlobes as the divider. Attached or unattached. There was a bit of controversy since that anatomical feature isn't binary, but actually more of a spectrum. Teacher made the call in intermediate cases, which was used as part of the learning experience.

It only went on for a couple of days, and the privileged group was switched. Still a somewhat enlightening exercise.
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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Did you get that from South Park?
Nope. Just personal observation and experience.

I’ve come across numerous actors and actresses that identify as “black”, where that wasn’t at all obvious to me. Or Asian heritage which is barely recognizable as such. On the personal side, my first wife was East Indian and had very dark skin. Our daughter turned out that “pleasant shade of brown”*, that in S FL is often mistaken for Hispanic.

And logically, that such mixing is inevitable as travel across regions becomes easier and easier.


*I don’t mean to imply that white, red, yellow or black are not equally pleasant.

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Originally Posted by Segnosaur View Post
Did you get that from South Park?

(There was an episode where time travelers from the future were coming to South park to find jobs. It was explained that they all looked grey as they were a mix of all races and the language was incompressible as it was a mix of all languages)

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I first heard it from Warren Beatty's character in Bulworth

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