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Old 9th June 2019, 02:20 PM   #1
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If a Bernie Sanders type liberal Socilist takes over America will be like Venezuela

I shudder to think what a liberal American Presidency would do for this country.
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Old 9th June 2019, 02:23 PM   #2
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Old 9th June 2019, 02:58 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
I shudder to think what a liberal American Presidency would do for this country.
However bad you think it is, it cannot possibly be worse than what has actually happened since 2016.
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Old 9th June 2019, 03:02 PM   #5
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We had a liberal presidency from 2009 to 2017. The economy recovered, millions got healthcare, unemployment plummeted, and we didn't start any new wars. (Didn't get out of the old ones, either.) Oh, and killed Osama Bin Laden.
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Old 9th June 2019, 03:05 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
I shudder to think what a liberal American Presidency would do for this country.
Also, to actually answer your rhetorical question, it would be like Canada or Australia or Scandinavia.


The horror...
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
I shudder to think what a liberal American Presidency would do for this country.
Not much. The president doesn't actually have any real power to change how the country works.

He can tinker a bit with trade and border control. He can mess around with international diplomacy and do a bit of limited warfare until Congress yanks his chain, but that's about it.
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Originally Posted by Cainkane1 View Post
I shudder to think what a liberal American Presidency would do for this country.
We had Obama and Clinton for 8 years each. In both cases they inherited a mess from the previous Republican POTUSes and left the county in great shape.

We have nothing in common with Venezuela. While we have a lot in common with the Scandinavian countries.

Other than reading some fear-mongering sites, why are you afraid of liberals?
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Old 9th June 2019, 03:07 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Norman Alexander View Post
Also, to actually answer your rhetorical question, it would be like Canada or Australia or Scandinavia.





The horror...
Not even close. A US president has near unlimited power within the limits of his office. Transforming the nation the way you describe is far beyond those limits.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
We had a liberal presidency from 2009 to 2017. .
No you didn't.
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Old 9th June 2019, 03:50 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by Archie Gemmill Goal View Post
No you didn't.
There you go.

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On a related note, it's pointless to try to explain American politics, and the American system of government, to non Americans.

Y'all are better off thinking of us as profitable and dangerous space aliens, than trying to reason with us as fellow Europeans.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
Not much. The president doesn't actually have any real power to change how the country works.

He can tinker a bit with trade and border control. He can mess around with international diplomacy and do a bit of limited warfare until Congress yanks his chain, but that's about it.
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Not even close. A US president has near unlimited power within the limits of his office. Transforming the nation the way you describe is far beyond those limits.
You want to make up your mind first?
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Old 9th June 2019, 04:23 PM   #14
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You want to make up your mind first?
My mind is made up. Both posts say the same thing.

Your do not understand the American system of government.
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Originally Posted by Trebuchet View Post
We had a liberal presidency from 2009 to 2017. The economy recovered, millions got healthcare, unemployment plummeted, and we didn't start any new wars. (Didn't get out of the old ones, either.) Oh, and killed Osama Bin Laden.
And yet the current Pres has an approval rating to 53%....
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I shudder to think what a liberal American Presidency would do for this country.
Free healthcare at the point of use?
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
There you go.

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On a related note, it's pointless to try to explain American politics, and the American system of government, to non Americans.

Y'all are better off thinking of us as profitable and dangerous space aliens, than trying to reason with us as fellow Europeans.
Or for a just a second an American might consider they don't have all the answers and that they aren't right about everything. And that America is not the world.
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Originally Posted by casebro View Post
And yet the current Pres has an approval rating to 53%....
53% of what, and which poll?

Did you read 538 backward?

That's 53% disapprove.

RCP average: 53% disapprove.

Gallup poll, Trump has never reached 50% approval.
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
There you go.

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On a related note, it's pointless to try to explain American politics, and the American system of government, to non Americans.

Y'all are better off thinking of us as profitable and dangerous space aliens survivors of 'survival of the fittest' as an ideology, than trying to reason with us as fellow Europeans.
maybe ftfy?
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Originally Posted by theprestige View Post
There you go.

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On a related note, it's pointless to try to explain American politics, and the American system of government, to non Americans.

Y'all are better off thinking of us as profitable and dangerous space aliens, than trying to reason with us as fellow Europeans.
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Would all the board's conservative posters finally get to the Quickening Part of their Highlander fan fiction to decide who gets to take Big Dogs place and get it over with?

Listen you'll find few people who dislike Passive Aggressive Communism... errr I mean Socialism as an actual broad high level government philosophy more then me. But the sky is falling routine about it is old and stale.
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Originally Posted by JoeMorgue View Post
Would all the board's conservative posters finally get to the Quickening Part of their Highlander fan fiction to decide who gets to take Big Dogs place and get it over with?

Listen you'll find few people who dislike Passive Aggressive Communism... errr I mean Socialism as an actual broad high level government philosophy then me. But the sky is falling routine about it old and stale.
Not sure about old and stale. More like a running joke that carries itself well through the whole Trump presidency and tragicomic gun obsession.

America’s overblown propaganda machine fuelled by divine mandated exceptionalism is a unaware comedy gold.
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Not sure about old and stale. More like a running joke that carries itself well through the whole Trump presidency and tragicomic gun obsession.

America’s overblown propaganda machine fuelled by divine mandated exceptionalism is a unaware comedy gold.
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And yet the current Pres has an approval rating to 53%....
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Would all the board's conservative posters finally get to the Quickening Part of their Highlander fan fiction to decide who gets to take Big Dogs place and get it over with?

Listen you'll find few people who dislike Passive Aggressive Communism... errr I mean Socialism as an actual broad high level government philosophy more then me. But the sky is falling routine about it is old and stale.
I don't know. As long as it triggers. ... why not?



And then maybe we'll see who gets to be top dog.
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We are rapidly approaching the point of no return on climate change (I disagree with those who argue we have already passed it, and its too late).

So long as the GOP maintains its steadfast denial of the climate danger the whole planet is facing, and they continue to promote polluting energy forms such as oil and coal, the the danger the Earth faces will continue to grow. I hope the GOP will be kicked out, and stay out of power.

A Liberal president, Senate and House will bring our last, best hope for the future, not just of America but for the planet. Another four years of Trump, and the planet is done for.
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And yet the current Pres has an approval rating to 53%....
Er, no

Donny's highest approval rating was on Day 6 of his Presidency.... 47.8% (disapproval was at 42.8%)

By day 14 of his Presidency, his approval and disapproval ratings were even at 44.8%. Ever since then, his disapproval rating has been higher than his approval

By day 55, his disapproval rating reached 50% and it has never fallen below that mark
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We are rapidly approaching the point of no return on climate change (I disagree with those who argue we have already passed it, and its too late).

So long as the GOP maintains its steadfast denial of the climate danger the whole planet is facing, and they continue to promote polluting energy forms such as oil and coal, the the danger the Earth faces will continue to grow. I hope the GOP will be kicked out, and stay out of power.

A Liberal president, Senate and House will bring our last, best hope for the future, not just of America but for the planet. Another four years of Trump, and the planet is done for.
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Also, to actually answer your rhetorical question, it would be like Canada or Australia or Scandinavia.


The horror...
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We had a liberal presidency from 2009 to 2017. The economy recovered, millions got healthcare, unemployment plummeted, and we didn't start any new wars. (Didn't get out of the old ones, either.) Oh, and killed Osama Bin Laden.
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No you didn't.
Well, of course not by European standards. By American standards, Obama was an outright Communist! There's a whole thread here about 30-odd (some very odd) reasons why he hated America.
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There you go.

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On a related note, it's pointless to try to explain American politics, and the American system of government, to non Americans.

Y'all are better off thinking of us as profitable and dangerous space aliens, than trying to reason with us as fellow Europeans.
^This

Seriously, these non-Americans discussing American politics is just cringe.
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^This

Seriously, these non-Americans discussing American politics is just cringe.
Gonna build us a wall around USA Politics and the childless Europeans gonna pay for it, y’all.
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Come on lets hear your glorious take on the evils of socialism and what the downfall of the rigged economy would do to America. Offer unto our unworthy ears the God-given wisdom that only you as an American can.
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We had a liberal presidency from 2009 to 2017. The economy recovered, millions got healthcare, unemployment plummeted, and we didn't start any new wars. (Didn't get out of the old ones, either.) Oh, and killed Osama Bin Laden.
And not long before that, that notorious socialist Bill Clinton gave us eight years of peace and prosperity, and ended his second term with a budget surplus.
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It would be a nice change. Not necessarily for the policies suggested, but because the average American really isn't as affected as seems to be implied by some. Let's see where people land when policies actually hit the masses.

As much as people seem to think the sky is falling during the current administration, the average person really hasn't been impacted much. Still overworked, still little time to dedicate to anything beyond necessities and short leisure. The stock market is up, wages are steady, the **** hasn't hit the fan to put it simply.

When forced to put some skin in the game, let's see how the majority fall. The rich aren't going cover everything as much as seems to be implied by the far left(US designation) so when everyone has to put their money where their mouth is, I wonder how it will all shake out.
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Nah.
The US has so many millionaires and billionaires and super-rich companies...

expropriating all their wealth will give enough funds for everyone to live the commie high-life for decades!
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Nah.
The US has so many millionaires and billionaires and super-rich companies...

expropriating all their wealth will give enough funds for everyone to live the commie high-life for decades!
Would it take all their wealth to establish universal healthcare, a living minimum wage, and access to quality education for Americans?
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