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Old 21st April 2017, 09:40 AM   #121
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Originally Posted by caveman1917 View Post
On what basis do you assume it would?
I don't. It would be an experiment.

It would also be a measure of the collective generosity of society as a whole. Are we, as a people, generous enough to meet the needs of those who can't provide for their own needs plus the greed of those who want to take without contributing? If the answer is yes, then this supermarket succeeds. If not, it will fail.

I think the existence of such a supermarket would have the effect of making people think about their connection to society as a whole, what kind of society we want to have, and what role we as individuals want to play in order to contribute to making that happen. I would hope that such consideration would lead people to contribute more and to be more aware of people in need.

If you were a shopper at this market, what would you do?

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My pet system? You're the one who just made it up.
Because they would be human beings with needs, wants and interests that wouldn't be satisfied by the contents of just one supermarket. Clothing, housing, entertainment and so on.

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Old Yesterday, 03:14 AM   #122
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Because there's no longer a reason to produce goods.
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Old Yesterday, 06:46 AM   #123
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Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
If you were a shopper at this market, what would you do?
I wouldn't pay.

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Because they would be human beings with needs, wants and interests that wouldn't be satisfied by the contents of just one supermarket. Clothing, housing, entertainment and so on.
One supermarket does not constitute a socio-economic system.
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A tad late returning to thread, but... To restate, I previously observed that deficiencies in current governance cannot be fairly compared to abstract ideals, rather, to comparative results in some other system. The question then was/is:
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So, status quo? No advocacy of change based on some preferred model?
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Neither of these follow.
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Or, what changes to current political and economic systems would you suggest?
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Abolishing both?
My question is: Is there any form of governance, or a complete absence thereof, that you do advocate? Ditto for any arrangement/non-arrangements for a working economy.
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Old Yesterday, 08:37 AM   #125
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Originally Posted by caveman1917 View Post
I wouldn't pay.
Why?

Is it because you lack the ability? Is it greed? Or some other reasons?

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One supermarket does not constitute a socio-economic system.
That's true. That's why previously I pointed out that just allowing people to take what they want results in the supermarket closing. It's not just a supermarket, it's the endpoint of many supply chains that involve countless unseen people.

At the same time, if it works and is sustainable, it can be repeated becoming more than just one supermarket. If successful, it could encourage similar social endeavors.
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Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
Why?

Is it because you lack the ability? Is it greed? Or some other reasons?
Because I see no need to.

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That's why previously I pointed out that just allowing people to take what they want results in the supermarket closing.
Why would it result in that?

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At the same time, if it works and is sustainable, it can be repeated becoming more than just one supermarket.
What if it can't "work" (define "work") because it is just one supermarket?

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If successful, it could encourage similar social endeavors.
Define "successful".
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Originally Posted by Hlafordlaes View Post
My question is: Is there any form of governance, or a complete absence thereof, that you do advocate? Ditto for any arrangement/non-arrangements for a working economy.
Not in particular. You're always free to make an argument for whatever pet system you promote though.
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Originally Posted by caveman1917 View Post
Not in particular. You're always free to make an argument for whatever pet system you promote though.
I see, I see, my clever old chum. I toss the ball, you get to whack it. Just the game I was going to play... I mean... er....


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Originally Posted by caveman1917 View Post
Because I see no need to.
You don't see a value in the continuation of the supermarket? Why is that?

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Why would it result in that?
That's already been discussed previously in this thread. If you don't remember, consider re-reading the thread, then seeing a doctor regarding memory issues.

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What if it can't "work" (define "work") because it is just one supermarket?
Could you elaborate?

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Define "successful".
That it continues to function, receiving enough income to meet its expenses.
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