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Old 20th April 2017, 09:59 AM   #161
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
You gotta take a little time
A little time to think things over
You better read between the lines
In case you need it when you're older

You want to know what love is?
You want us to show you?
You want to feel what love is?
You know we can show you
OK . . .I AM ALL EARS.
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:01 AM   #162
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Originally Posted by Kid Eager View Post
I dint know god was a screamer...
ME NEITHER . . .AS I SAID MANY TIMES . . .IT IS JUST TO MAKE FOR EASIER READING . . .ESPECIALLY WHEN I HAVE TO GO INTO A LONG QUOTE.

I WILL NOT SCREAM AT YOU

THAT IS NOT LOVE

LOVE JOHAN
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:01 AM   #163
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
If our OP is the same Johan Abrahams who has his own website about God and posts on religious forums, we are in for a lot of incoherent screaming. I'll get the popcorn. Or I could bake some cookies.
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YOU HIT THE MARK . . BUT DO NOT RUN AWAY NOW . . .YOU ARE NOT A COWARD . . SO YOU HAVE TO SHOW AND PROOF THE "INCOHERENT SCREAMING" . . .BECAUSE TO SAY SOMETHING WITHOUT PROOF MAKES YOU FOR "INCOHERENT SCREAMING"

LOVE JOHAN

Exhibit "A"
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:04 AM   #164
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Exhibit "A"
I'm amused! Is this what we're doing now?
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:04 AM   #165
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:06 AM   #166
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Originally Posted by Porpoise of Life View Post
Google's 'tinfoil hat to human' translation app tells me this means you believe you are God.
Good luck with that.
YOU DEPEND NOW ON "GOOGLE'S TINFOIL HAT . . ." . . .WHILE YOU SHOULD RATHER DEPEND ON YOURSELF.

WELL "GOOGLE . . ." MADE A MISTAKE . . .AS I AM FOR SURE NOT HIM.

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Old 20th April 2017, 10:12 AM   #167
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If I speak in the tongues[a] of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.

Implies love is a language impossible to learn for it excludes any human language, at the very least.

2 If I have the gift of prophecy and can fathom all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have a faith that can move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.

Implies that love is not part of any possible knowledge, at the very least.

3 If I give all I possess to the poor and give over my body to hardship that I may boast, but do not have love, I gain nothing.

Implies that love cannot be demonstrated by any physical means; at the very least, any charitable means.

So far, love is impossible to speak, know or show. Tough act to follow.

4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.
5 It does not dishonor others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs.
6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.
7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.


But then it changes; turns into a list of character flaws which are unrelated to the initial description. These are ethics most people would recognize.

So, which love is being mooted? The basic package, or the supernatural one?
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:13 AM   #168
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Originally Posted by Argumemnon View Post
Couldn't look it up?



Big words?



Stop screaming.
Stop screaming . . .AND WHEN DID I DO THAT?
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:14 AM   #169
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This is an...odd...assertion. All of the 'gods' were created by humans. Feel free to provide actual evidence otherwise. Do keep track of the fact that your sincere testimony is not evidence...
His true testimony is testicular.
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:16 AM   #170
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Originally Posted by Johanabrahams View Post
Stop screaming . . .AND WHEN DID I DO THAT?
Just there.
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:19 AM   #171
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Originally Posted by Johanabrahams View Post
ME NEITHER . . .AS I SAID MANY TIMES . . .IT IS JUST TO MAKE FOR EASIER READING . . .ESPECIALLY WHEN I HAVE TO GO INTO A LONG QUOTE.

I WILL NOT SCREAM AT YOU

THAT IS NOT LOVE

LOVE JOHAN
You are screaming. Do you not know how impolite it is to write in all caps?
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:19 AM   #172
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
terrific!
YEP . . .I AGREE . . .HE IS . . .FROM OUT OF US.

LOVE JOHAN
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:20 AM   #173
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Originally Posted by Johanabrahams View Post
Stop screaming . . .AND WHEN DID I DO THAT?
Typing in all caps is considered (and I suspect you've been told this many times) rather rude, unloving, with the implication that you are yelling and screaming at people.
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:22 AM   #174
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Ahh FSM, The one and only true creator of all things.

RAmen brother.
YEP . . . THE ONE THAT ALSO GIVE BIRTH TO HIS OWN.
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:23 AM   #175
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Originally Posted by Johanabrahams View Post
YEP . . .I AGREE . . .HE IS . . .FROM OUT OF US.

LOVE JOHAN
What in the blue hell are you guys even babbling about?
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:24 AM   #176
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Originally Posted by Johanabrahams View Post
YEP . . . THE ONE THAT ALSO GIVE BIRTH TO HIS OWN.
Please stop yelling. it's rude, and unloving.
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Old 20th April 2017, 10:27 AM   #177
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Originally Posted by Nay_Sayer View Post
No need to quote tbd.

I already know what he's going to say and has said.

ETA, Lay of the all caps posting: 6. You will not spam, flood or otherwise post in a manner that disrupts the functioning of the Forum, this includes using disruptive formatting in your posts and also includes using the Forum for commercial purposes.E4
No need to quote tbd.

I KNOW . . . BUT I LOVE TO

I already know what he's going to say and has said.

ETA, Lay of the all caps posting: [b]6.

Well rules we have to obey . . .just a lot more difficult . . .but ok . . .God is helper.

You will not spam, flood or otherwise post in a manner that disrupts the functioning of the Forum, this includes using disruptive formatting in your posts and also includes using the Forum for commercial purposes.E4

Do not worry . . .I found another way . .


Love Johan

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Old 20th April 2017, 10:28 AM   #178
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Stop screaming . . .AND WHEN DID I DO THAT?
JUST NOW, DAMMIT! KNOCK IT OFF!

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YEP . . . THE ONE THAT ALSO GIVE BIRTH TO HIS OWN.
Wow! How very clueless.

Or, as my grandfather used to say:

"A man can only make a fool of himself."
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What in the blue hell are you guys even babbling about?

He seems to be insisting that the only proper god would be one that makes him a god, too. Doing so in all caps makes it a bit too distracting to read, but that seems to be the gist of the point of this ... exercise.
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I'm God, and I disapprove of Johans Actions. He doesn't speak for me.
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I'm struggling with a thought. Billy Baxter seems to have finally left the building for good, and Johan shows up. Is Johan Billy's evil twin?

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I'm struggling with a thought. Billy Baxter seems to have finally left the building for good, and Johan shows up. Is Johan Billy's evil twin?

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Seems closer to DavidJayJordan...
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Cats exist, and furthermore though a cat may think it's a god, it does not threaten with damnation for not understanding it. A god ought, I think, to be a little better at its job than than that.
Cats exist, and furthermore though a cat may think it's a god, it does not threaten us with damnation for not understanding it.
yep . . .agree . . .a God that threatens . . .is no God . .
.but it can be a "big cat"




A god ought, I think, to be a little better at its job than than that

well said brother . . .we are getting there . . .slowly but surely.

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So now we are off on some bastardized branch of Mormonism? Been a lot of that going around recently...
you like to classify. Got it from Adam who was appointed to class all the animals.
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Originally Posted by Johanabrahams View Post
Cats exist, and furthermore though a cat may think it's a god, it does not threaten us with damnation for not understanding it.
yep . . .agree . . .a God that threatens . . .is no God . .
.but it can be a "big cat"




A god ought, I think, to be a little better at its job than than that

well said brother . . .we are getting there . . .slowly but surely.
You know you don't have to quote someone twice in order to respond. Here. Let me help:

Quote:
yep . . .agree . . .a God that threatens . . .is no God . .
.but it can be a "big cat"
...what?

Quote:
well said brother . . .we are getting there . . .slowly but surely.
What are you talking about? None of this makes sense.

See? Just use the quote function properly.
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One uses the "safeword" to let one's partner and/or lover know of an important problem.

For more information on this topic, please consult Wikipedia.
Ok . . .meaning it is "against the forum rules" to say it clearly.
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Ok . . .meaning it is "against the forum rules" to say it clearly.
Would you quit it? Look up the phrase "tough love". I'm sure you'll find something on wiki.
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No, what I meant is that when one thinks they are backed by divine authority, they can become quite dangerous. The broader problem is the mistaken appeal to authority that most people seem to inherit from the religious templates they are exposed to, a feeling that truth in general has some absolute grounding. That only works for basic evidentiary facts, not big ideas.

Therefore, regardless of whatever divinity might be involved in your OP, and in spite of any nobility of sentiment in any teachings ascribed thereto, such thinking is not my cup of tea (fails due diligence).
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No, what I meant is that when one thinks they are backed by divine authority, they can become quite dangerous.

Nope . . .they cannot because it is just in their own minds .
. . and not a reality


The broader problem is the mistaken appeal to authority that most people seem to inherit from the religious templates they are exposed to, a feeling that truth in general has some absolute grounding. That only works for basic evidentiary facts, not big ideas.

That authority is inherited from religion . . .sure . .not important these days . . but there was a time that you could be killed by such authority . . .which of course was false authority

Therefore, regardless of whatever divinity might be involved in your OP, and in spite of any nobility of sentiment in any teachings ascribed thereto, such thinking is not my cup of tea (fails due diligence)

But one can get . . liking of a different cup of tea if exposed to it . . .as sticking just to one is not really part of our being.
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you like to classify. Got it from Adam who was appointed to class all the animals.

And you like to believe that you can become a god. Got it from a bad fantasy novel which presents unrealistic scenarios.

Mind you, I love a well-written fantasy, but I somehow manage to understand the difference between it and reality.
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Sure there are!

Just like the theists when they try and "define" their deity as being equivalent to another thing or concept, you can too! Call the pan of freshly baked brownies 'god' and voilą!

[insert joke about brownies being heavenly tasting here]
I have it on good authority that it's actually pasta that is God.


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They are referring to me, The Big Dog, aka TBD.

I look forward to more of your insights, and again, welcome to the site.
They are referring to me, The Big Dog, aka TBD.

Thanks Big dog . . .wonder what I am going to be?

I look forward to more of your insights,

As you already know . . . they came from Dad

and again, welcome to the site.

yep . . . good to have brothers and sisters . . .and yes .
. children.


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TBD is The Big Dog, posting here. In case you're unfamiliar, he is an outspoken conservative, and a Roman Catholic.
Thanks . . .good to be outspoken . . then people can know you as you obviously know him
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Thanks . . .good to be outspoken . . then people can know you as you obviously know him
God's dead, remember?
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Thanks . . .good to be outspoken . . then people can know you as you obviously know him
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Ok . . .meaning it is "against the forum rules" to say it clearly.
I think that you have properly taken my meaning, but do yourself a favor and look the term "safeword" on Wikipedia yourself just to make sure.

Also, while you are looking at Wikipedia, I also suggest that you look up the term "FSM" (Flying Spaghetti Monster) so that you may be able to reply with some degree of intelligence should this term be referenced to you again in the future.

Thanks much.
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Old 20th April 2017, 11:29 AM   #199
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Originally Posted by Crossbow View Post
I think that you have properly taken my meaning, but do yourself a favor and look the term "safeword" on Wikipedia yourself just to make sure.

Also, while you are looking at Wikipedia, I also suggest that you look up the term "FSM" (Flying Spaghetti Monster) so that you may be able to reply with some degree of intelligence should this term be referenced to you again in the future.

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Old 20th April 2017, 11:35 AM   #200
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Originally Posted by The Big Dog View Post
They are referring to me, The Big Dog, aka TBD.

I look forward to more of your insights, and again, welcome to the site.
Yes- I too look forward to what I am certain will be an interesting and insightful conversation between the two of you! Please carry on!

Just a small point- perhaps you can advise Johanabrahams as to how to use the quote function instead of the red-colored fonts? It might help improve the readability of his posts.

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