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Old 16th June 2020, 09:24 PM   #81
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
Here’s one.

LA Times link - it’s free to me. Boogaloo boy is member of an elite Air Force security unit and now charged with murder. Looks to be terrorism using protests as a pretext for violence.

https://www.latimes.com/california/s...ederal-officer



The article is a good primer on the boogaloo stuff if anyone is interested.

It's not as a pretext - it's to "light the match" that will trigger the next Civil War.
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Old 16th June 2020, 11:51 PM   #82
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Originally Posted by The Great Zaganza View Post
It's not as a pretext - it's to "light the match" that will trigger the next Civil War.
If those weekend play-soldiers that call themselves "militias" try getting into a real shooting war with the US military, they will get their collective arsed kicked mightily. It will be like a grade-schooler taking on Floyd Mayweather in the ring.... no-contest!
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Old 17th June 2020, 12:30 AM   #83
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Originally Posted by smartcooky View Post
If those weekend play-soldiers that call themselves "militias" try getting into a real shooting war with the US military, they will get their collective arsed kicked mightily. It will be like a grade-schooler taking on Floyd Mayweather in the ring.... no-contest!
ah, but they think that the US military will be on their side once they get the Blacks/Muslims/gays to get into a war with the police.
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Old 17th June 2020, 08:20 PM   #84
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BBC News has a new article where they attempt to define Boogaloo Bois and others...


George Floyd protests: Who are Boogaloo Bois, antifa and Proud Boys?

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-53018201
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3 boogaloo boys indicted on terrorism charges surrounding conspiracy to commit mass violence during BLM protests.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...lence-2055101/

They are being held without bond.

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They face state terrorism and explosives charges and federal charges of conspiring to cause destruction by fire and explosive, and possessing an unregistered destructive device, a Molotov cocktail.
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Can you register a Molotov cocktail? Asking for a friend.
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Originally Posted by carlitos View Post
Can you register a Molotov cocktail? Asking for a friend.
Yes. Each cocktail would need to be licensed as an explosive device and go through all the ATF procedures.

I've seen these kinds of things listed as an expensive novelty item. Necessary information, like a serial number, is engraved into the glass by the manufacturer. I can't find a link, but there was some gun range that also allowed customers to throw explosives, including molotov cocktails, and use other NFA items like machine guns.

https://www.guns.com/news/2016/05/02...s-on-gunbroker
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Old 18th June 2020, 07:48 AM   #88
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Originally Posted by SuburbanTurkey View Post
3 boogaloo boys indicted on terrorism charges surrounding conspiracy to commit mass violence during BLM protests.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/...lence-2055101/

They are being held without bond.
BBC is defining the Boogaloo Bois as being anti-police and anti- government-authority. From that one might theorize that their mission to attend BLM protests is to violently mess with law enforcement. They would target police, and not BLM protesters or any political party representatives at the protest. They might target protesters who are strongly supportive of the (existing) police force and government authority.

In theory, and derived from the BBC description of Boogaloo Bois.
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
BBC is defining the Boogaloo Bois as being anti-police and anti- government-authority. From that one might theorize that their mission to attend BLM protests is to violently mess with law enforcement. They would target police, and not BLM protesters or any political party representatives at the protest. They might target protesters who are strongly supportive of the (existing) police force and government authority.

In theory, and derived from the BBC description of Boogaloo Bois.
Boogaloo boys defy any firm definition. It's an internet meme with no real organization, so it means different things to different people. The general meme seems to glorify strife with the state and a second civil war, but it's quite ambiguous to what ends or motive.

Some seem to just glorify armed struggle against the state for its own sake, other see it as some necessary step for another goal. All can claim the term "Boogaloo". Most strike me as tacticool types that own lots of gun and tactical gear and just want to pose with all their buds, but have no real appetite for a violent death.
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Most strike me as tacticool types that own lots of gun and tactical gear and just want to pose with all their buds, but have no real appetite for a violent death.
... and would not even last two minutes in a real firefight against real soldiers.
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... and would not even last two minutes in a real firefight against real soldiers.
A whole division of Boogallos..about,say Ten Thousand men..would be ripped to shreads by one company 100 Men...of well trained infantry.
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A whole division of Boogallos..about,say Ten Thousand men..would be ripped to shreads by one company 100 Men...of well trained infantry.
Depends on how many of the trained infantry were Boogaloo boys themselves. The US military is lousy with people sympathetic to right wing terrorism.
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Depends on how many of the trained infantry were Boogaloo boys themselves. The US military is lousy with people sympathetic to right wing terrorism.
Indeed several of the "Boogaloo" individuals who were arrested for murder or terroristic plans during the BLM protests are active-duty or former military.
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Depends on how many of the trained infantry were Boogaloo boys themselves. The US military is lousy with people sympathetic to right wing terrorism.
Supply lines and materiel.

Your Johnny Rebs in the forces would not be able to take weapons systems and materiel with them should they decide to desert and defect to the boogaloos, and even if they could, hardware such as vehicles and aircraft require maintenace and repair, and that requires specialist personnel and supply lines. None of these will exist for the boogaloos.

Make no mistake, these people fantasize about restarting "the civil war" but war has move on since 1865. That one involved a number of states changing sides, and that is not going to happen again.
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Indeed several of the "Boogaloo" individuals who were arrested for murder or terroristic plans during the BLM protests are active-duty or former military.
Were these plans targeting police or government authorities? I'm asking because the BBC defines the Boogaloo Bois as being anti-police and anti-government authority.
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Were these plans targeting police or government authorities? I'm asking because the BBC defines the Boogaloo Bois as being anti-police and anti-government authority.
I do not know off the top of my head about the three arrested in Las Vegas; but the two in Oakland did specifically target a federal building and killed a federal officer, as well as a sheriff's deputy a few days later. The "leader" of those two left social media posts explaining that he intended to manipulate the rioting crowd into attacking "the real enemy", i.e. federal agencies. It does not seem to have worked.
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Indeed several of the "Boogaloo" individuals who were arrested for murder or terroristic plans during the BLM protests are active-duty or former military.
Speak of the devil:

U.S. Army Soldier Charged with Terrorism Offenses for Planning Deadly Ambush on Service Members in His Unit
U.S. Army Private Ethan Melzer Sent Sensitive U.S. Military Information to Members of a Neo-Nazi Group in an Attempt to Facilitate a “Mass Casualty” Attack on Melzer’s Army Unit


https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/us-ar...mbers-his-unit

Another normal day in the military where a soldier is coordinating with an foreign right-wing terrorist cell to murder his fellow soldiers. That might tilt the odds towards terrorist irregulars.
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Richard Spencer, neo-nazi leader best known for getting punched in the face, has lost his lawyer in the sprawling "Unite the Right" lawsuit due to lack of payment.

https://apnews.com/a98d43e6a1100f97e2422277538982f4
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A US Army soldier has been charged with conspiring with a white-supremacist cult to carry out a terrorist attack on a US Army unit overseas.

The soldier, a private who enlisted in 2018, joined an "esoteric Hitlerist" group called the Order of the Nine Angles a year later and was radicalized. In April of this year, after the Army informed him of an upcoming scheduled deployment of his unit, he began sending encrypted messages to other members of the Order detailing his unit's troop strength, deployment locations and armament figures, to aid in planning a "mass casualty" attack against his own unit by the Order with help from jihadists. According to the DoJ press release, he acknowledged that he would be killed in the attack and that he was okay with it so long as his actions led to "another 10 year war in the Middle East". His further attempts to communicate with Al Qaeda in May to share the same information were intercepted by US security agencies and he has been arrested.
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A US Army soldier has been charged with conspiring with a white-supremacist cult to carry out a terrorist attack on a US Army unit overseas.

The soldier, a private who enlisted in 2018, joined an "esoteric Hitlerist" group called the Order of the Nine Angles a year later and was radicalized. In April of this year, after the Army informed him of an upcoming scheduled deployment of his unit, he began sending encrypted messages to other members of the Order detailing his unit's troop strength, deployment locations and armament figures, to aid in planning a "mass casualty" attack against his own unit by the Order with help from jihadists. According to the DoJ press release, he acknowledged that he would be killed in the attack and that he was okay with it so long as his actions led to "another 10 year war in the Middle East". His further attempts to communicate with Al Qaeda in May to share the same information were intercepted by US security agencies and he has been arrested.
While I am generally opposed to the death penalty, I might be temped to support the use of the firing squad to terminate this POS.
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Richard Spencer, neo-nazi leader best known for getting punched in the face, has lost his lawyer in the sprawling "Unite the Right" lawsuit due to lack of payment.

https://apnews.com/a98d43e6a1100f97e2422277538982f4
This could be a devastating blow, albeit for a man who is practiced at receiving them.
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When Bajit Singh walked into his India Palace restaurant to prepare for a busy dinner service Monday afternoon, he found his restaurant destroyed and racial slurs graffitied all over the walls.

“I walked into the kitchen, I saw everything and I was like, hold on, what? What is going on here?” he tells SFR.

“White power,” “Trump 2020,” “go home,” and far worse were spray-painted on walls, doors, counters and any other available surface. Some phrases contained threats of violence and derogatory racial slurs.

Tables were overturned, glassware was smashed into piles on the floor. The wine racks were emptied, a statue of a goddess was beheaded and computers were stolen. Food warmers were turned over and destroyed. The front desk area was gutted, plates smashed and the kitchen rendered completely unusable.
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“White power”. I thought this phrase was antiquated. Are white supremacists still using it? Seems cliche and trope-y.

"The wine racks were emptied". Not white supremacists.

The place was full of overkill vandalism. Way over the top.


I'll place an early bet on false flag.
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"go home". Again cliche and trope-y. This two-word phrase-demand is barked out by every white racist granny. All of them.
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“White power”. I thought this phrase was antiquated. Are white supremacists still using it? Seems cliche and trope-y.
White supremacists themselves are indeed cliche and trope-y.

And I'm not sure what ever gave you the impression that "white power" as a racist slogan was antiquated or out of use; white supremacists still commonly use slogans from the 1930's. In the original German, sometimes, even.
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Three North Carolina police officers have been fired from their local department after an accidentally-activated dash cam in one of their patrol cars saved the officers' "explicit and racist" banter.

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He also referred to a magistrate judge, who is also black, as a ‘ ******* negro magistrate.’

“At one point, Moore states, ‘she needed a bullet in her head right then and move on. Let’s move the body out of the way and keep going.’ Piner responds, ‘That’s what I have been trying to tell you,'” according to the documents.

After more derogatory comments about the arrestee and the magistrate, the conversation takes an even bleaker turn, as the two officers discuss an upcoming ‘civil war.’

“Piner tells Moore later in the conversation that he feels a civil war is coming and he is ‘ready.’ Piner advised he is going to buy a new assault rifle in the next couple of weeks. A short time later Officer Piner began to discuss society being close to ‘martial law’ and soon ‘we are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them ******* ni—–. I can’t wait. God, I can’t wait.’ Moore responded that he would not do that. Piner stated, ‘I am ready.'” according to the summary.

“Officer Piner then explained to Cpl. Moore that he felt society needed a civil war to ‘wipe ’em off the ******* map. That’ll put ’em back about four or five generations.'”
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Three North Carolina police officers have been fired from their local department after an accidentally-activated dash cam in one of their patrol cars saved the officers' "explicit and racist" banter.
Fire the entire police force and start over.
A PD in which officers think they are soldiers against Americans in an upcoming Civil War hasn't done its job to explain cops are citizens, and the people they police are not enemy combatant.
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Boogaloo boys defy any firm definition. It's an internet meme with no real organization, so it means different things to different people.
So... just like Antifa.
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So... just like Antifa.
Kinda, but completely different.
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A whole division of Boogallos..about,say Ten Thousand men..would be ripped to shreads by one company 100 Men...of well trained infantry.
Depends on who in the company is on their side.

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“White power”. I thought this phrase was antiquated.
You thought wrong

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Are white supremacists still using it?
Yes




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Seems cliche and trope-y.
White supremacists ARE cliche and tropey (and ignorant, and stupid)


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"The wine racks were emptied". Not white supremacists.
Really?

Why couldn't they sell it buy beer and guns? Or use it for target practice?

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The place was full of overkill vandalism. Way over the top.
That's what white supremacists are... over the top (and cliche, and tropey, and ignorant, and stupid)

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I'll place an early bet on false flag.
A fool and his money......

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"go home". Again cliche and trope-y. This two-word phrase-demand is barked out by every white racist granny....
...and Trump!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/14/u...-congress.html
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Originally Posted by William Parcher View Post
"The wine racks were emptied". Not white supremacists.

Do you assume that white supremacists only drink milk or mead?!
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https://www.portlandmercury.com/blog...7-max-slayings

He is claiming self defense. His trial is ongoing and is expected to go through February.
Jeremy Christian Is Sentenced to Life in Prison Without Parole for Fatal 2017 MAX Stabbings

The man who murdered 2 men and wounded another who interrupted his racist tirade against two black women on public transit has been sentenced to life without parole. Sentencing hearing took longer than expected because Christian kept interrupting victim statements with racist, abusive outbursts and had to be taken off-site and forced to watch the statements remotely.

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A US Army soldier has been charged with conspiring with a white-supremacist cult to carry out a terrorist attack on a US Army unit overseas.

The soldier, a private who enlisted in 2018, joined an "esoteric Hitlerist" group called the Order of the Nine Angles a year later and was radicalized. In April of this year, after the Army informed him of an upcoming scheduled deployment of his unit, he began sending encrypted messages to other members of the Order detailing his unit's troop strength, deployment locations and armament figures, to aid in planning a "mass casualty" attack against his own unit by the Order with help from jihadists. According to the DoJ press release, he acknowledged that he would be killed in the attack and that he was okay with it so long as his actions led to "another 10 year war in the Middle East". His further attempts to communicate with Al Qaeda in May to share the same information were intercepted by US security agencies and he has been arrested.
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Originally Posted by Checkmite View Post
But as we're repeatedly told by the Usual Suspect only the left is violent...

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“White power”. I thought this phrase was antiquated. Are white supremacists still using it? Seems cliche and trope-y.

"The wine racks were emptied". Not white supremacists.

The place was full of overkill vandalism. Way over the top.


I'll place an early bet on false flag.
Ah....
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So... just like Antifa.
But more actually violent.
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The Informant[/i] newsletter]The attorney for Yousef Omar Barasneh, a member of the neo-Nazi group The Base, says his client plans to plead guilty to federal charges: "However, Mr. Barasneh and I continue to have things we want to accomplish before he enters a plea."
https://twitter.com/nickmartin/statu...11209282719745

Sounds like this Nazi needs a bit more time to snitch on his comrades before pleading guilty.
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Originally Posted by Right Wing Watch
Ohio National Guard Soldier Pulled From Mission in D.C. Appears on Neo-Fascist Podcast, Says He’s Being Discharged
The guardsman who espoused violent Nazi ideology appeared on an overtly fascist podcast and revealed he was being discharged from the Guard for "unsoldierly behavior"

He came to public attention when he bragged to fellow fascists that he was being deployed to DC and heavily implied he would engage in acts of violence against protesters.

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At least he isn't an Illinois nazi.
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Woman shot 4 times by rifle after snatching Nazi flag from man’s yard in Oklahoma.

Nazi charged with assault with intent to kill.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7124112/n...ag-woman-shot/
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