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Old 14th March 2020, 10:43 PM   #241
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Originally Posted by sir drinks-a-lot View Post
Neither one will be very effective unless your product also includes rare earth magnets. I thought this was supposed to be a science forum.
...that is full of jokers.
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Old 14th March 2020, 10:48 PM   #242
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Well I bought enough stuff on Friday so I didn't need to return during the weekend.

I'm banking on this being just a distribution issue. By the end of the week, I would expect some sort of supermarket normalcy.

Of course, when the trucks run in, they'll sell out again, as more people decide they should have been among the hoarders. Repeat until......I'm not sure what.
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Old 14th March 2020, 10:53 PM   #243
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Today at the grocery...getting snacks for the kid to do testing this week.

Check out person says someone 'almost' came in the store to return TP. They were offered double the cash at the door by a customer so did not need to bother!

Perhaps we need a meme of a person opening up a trench coat full of TP?
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Old 14th March 2020, 11:15 PM   #244
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Originally Posted by Meadmaker View Post
I had the misfortune of needing something from Costco on December 31,1999. I hope when this is all over we will think of this crisis in the same way we thought of that one.

Not likely, but one can hope.
The difference between 1999 and today's Covid 19 was that 1999 was a potential crisis that was averted, this Covid 19 business has actually killed quite a few people. We have yet to see what it does to the economy.
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Old 14th March 2020, 11:31 PM   #245
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Originally Posted by Meadmaker View Post
Well I bought enough stuff on Friday so I didn't need to return during the weekend.

I'm banking on this being just a distribution issue. By the end of the week, I would expect some sort of supermarket normalcy.

Of course, when the trucks run in, they'll sell out again, as more people decide they should have been among the hoarders. Repeat until......I'm not sure what.

So if we are all out down here we can come stay with you?
We just cannot have non-wiped bums.

Luckily we have some days of back-up given our recent trip to China which had me buy a bunch of single pack tissues. People steal paper there in the best of times so you byo or go without.
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I got 50 lbs of canned cat food yesterday.

No, not hoarding; it was about time, and the delivery costs for 10 lbs and 50 lbs are the same.
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Old 15th March 2020, 03:27 AM   #248
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Originally Posted by Rolfe View Post
The only thing that would faze me would be a lack of electricity. I wouldn't be able to keep warm or heat food or water with only a gas fire in a large living room. And the food in my freezer would spoil. My emergency plan for no electricity in cold weather has been to go to neighbours who have a log-fuelled stove, but I'm not planning to go near people if I can help it if this lot gets bad. But I think electricity will be the main priority for keeping things going. At least we're heading into warmer weather. Today was horrible.

I don't think water will be an issue either but the emergency plan for that involves the river and a bucket. And electricity to boil the stuff if possible.
On Thursday, while searching stores for supplies, I did indulge and buy a single burner camp stove and propane, just in case. When the power goes out here, the gas goes out as well. It's been raining cats and dogs, and nearly every time it rains, the power goes out, and it's no fun being without power an entire day, not able to cook. So I treated myself to the stove, which will make my group camping trips even better, as I'll be helping contribute to camp gear.

The house I stay in has a wood burning fireplace. Prior to buying the camp stove, I thought if things were to get really bad that I could cook in the fireplace with cast iron. Tonight I seasoned the lovely Lodge cast iron Dutch oven I got on sale last year when Orchard Supply Hardware went out of business but hadn't yet prepared for cooking. Would you be able to set a cast iron into the gas fireplace? They conduct heat so well, I wonder if even setting one into the gas fireplace would heat things sufficiently. (And I hope, of course, you aren't faced with needing to do so.)
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Old 15th March 2020, 03:39 AM   #249
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Originally Posted by Horatius View Post
So, for those who can't find enough toilet paper, how about:


https://www.homedepot.ca/product/bio...E&gclsrc=aw.ds
Water always works! Even a squeeze sport water bottle will do. But, if you want to be fancy, order one of the bidet systems that attaches to your toilet tank and replaces your toilet seat. You'll get a heated toilet seat option for cold weather, and the water just hooks up to your toilet tank - all you need is a power outlet near the commode.


I went with a friend just to look at what was available at Smart and Final, at their suggestion as they were a member. All paper products were sold out, but I did see something that I, as a lady, have had to use often in public bathrooms which have run out of toilet paper: toilet seat covers! They sell them there, and there were tons of them. They make great toilet paper when there's nothing else, and they won't clog your pipes as they are meant to be flushed. Pro-tip!
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Old 15th March 2020, 04:32 AM   #250
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Originally Posted by Sherkeu View Post
Perhaps we need a meme of a person opening up a trench coat full of TP?

Not TP, but ...

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Old 15th March 2020, 05:49 AM   #251
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Originally Posted by MoeFaux View Post
On Thursday, while searching stores for supplies, I did indulge and buy a single burner camp stove and propane, just in case. When the power goes out here, the gas goes out as well. It's been raining cats and dogs, and nearly every time it rains, the power goes out, and it's no fun being without power an entire day, not able to cook. So I treated myself to the stove, which will make my group camping trips even better, as I'll be helping contribute to camp gear.

The house I stay in has a wood burning fireplace. Prior to buying the camp stove, I thought if things were to get really bad that I could cook in the fireplace with cast iron. Tonight I seasoned the lovely Lodge cast iron Dutch oven I got on sale last year when Orchard Supply Hardware went out of business but hadn't yet prepared for cooking. Would you be able to set a cast iron into the gas fireplace? They conduct heat so well, I wonder if even setting one into the gas fireplace would heat things sufficiently. (And I hope, of course, you aren't faced with needing to do so.)
Since you said this is a new item, please be sure to read the safety instructions for your stove. I seem to remember them being dangerous to use inside a home? (carbon monoxide)
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Old 15th March 2020, 07:48 AM   #252
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Originally Posted by MoeFaux View Post

The house I stay in has a wood burning fireplace. Prior to buying the camp stove, I thought if things were to get really bad that I could cook in the fireplace with cast iron. Tonight I seasoned the lovely Lodge cast iron Dutch oven I got on sale last year when Orchard Supply Hardware went out of business but hadn't yet prepared for cooking. Would you be able to set a cast iron into the gas fireplace? They conduct heat so well, I wonder if even setting one into the gas fireplace would heat things sufficiently. (And I hope, of course, you aren't faced with needing to do so.)
Start slow, it does not take a raging bonfire to cook. Frying a batch of bacon of both a learning experience and an excellent way of seasoning the pot. Do it today, it's always time for bacon.
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Old 15th March 2020, 07:50 AM   #253
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I got 50 lbs of canned cat food yesterday.

No, not hoarding; it was about time, and the delivery costs for 10 lbs and 50 lbs are the same.
I got twenty cans on Friday. It was 20 cents off if you bought 20 and the sale was ending. Saved four bucks!

We've got sufficient TP but in a pinch we've also got quite a lot of old towels and a washing machine.
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Old 15th March 2020, 07:51 AM   #254
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Darn grocery stores had lines outside this morning. They weren't opening until 8:00. Don't they realize that makes things look worse?
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Old 15th March 2020, 08:09 AM   #255
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Darn grocery stores had lines outside this morning. They weren't opening until 8:00. Don't they realize that makes things look worse?
You do know shop workers can't suddenly change their shifts and as by magic appear in shops just because there are a few queues. And why is up to grocery stores to make it "look" better?
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I got twenty cans on Friday. It was 20 cents off if you bought 20 and the sale was ending. Saved four bucks!

We've got sufficient TP but in a pinch we've also got quite a lot of old towels and a washing machine.
Brilliant idea:

If you run out of TP, just use the cat. It'll just clean itself and be ready for the next time!
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Really? My problem is that chickens and partridges keep flying in and stealing my clowns. They swoop down and snatch them right out of the exercise yard. They've even broken into the clown coop a couple of times. I'm considering moving them to more secure clown quarters, but then I won't be able to market them as free-range clowns.
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Just throw them into the clown car. They'll be OK.
No, put them in the storm drains. It's okay, they float. Down there, they all float....
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Brilliant idea:

If you run out of TP, just use the cat. It'll just clean itself and be ready for the next time!
Hmm, here's a thought: When I clean the lint filter in the dryer, it forms a kind of felt, consisting mostly of cat hair. I could use that!
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Came back from holiday late last night so had to go shopping this morning. Got to the supermarket 5 minutes before the till opened to find the car park almost full and most of the trollies in use.

It wasn't quite as bad as the panic buying just before Christmas but it was close and there was little bread, eggs or bogroll to be had. Most trollies had at least one 12 pack of toilet paper, many had 2, 3 or 4.

I can only imagine how bad it was yesterday....
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You do know shop workers can't suddenly change their shifts and as by magic appear in shops just because there are a few queues. And why is up to grocery stores to make it "look" better?
The store I am talking about usually open at 6:30 or 7. Opening later is why there were people waiting, and that makes it look worse. So I went home and had a roast beef sandwich for breakfast. I'll try again at 8:00 tomorrow for some eggs.
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The store I am talking about usually open at 6:30 or 7. Opening later is why there were people waiting, and that makes it look worse. So I went home and had a roast beef sandwich for breakfast. I'll try again at 8:00 tomorrow for some eggs.
Perhaps they had some staff that called in sick or gone into self-isolation. Terrible of them to inconvenience people for the sake of their health...
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Perhaps they had some staff that called in sick or gone into self-isolation. Terrible of them to inconvenience people for the sake of their health...
In Detroit, a couple of chains announced that they will be keeping shorter hours today specifically to give workers time to restock the shelves.

I'm not exactly sure how that works, but what I'm imagining is that they have a couple of previously unscheduled delivery trucks on the way, and they have to pull people off of regular duty in order to put them on the task of unloading the trucks. Plus, maybe they want to avoid a mob scene as people try to grab product out of workers' hands before it can go on the shelves.
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Perhaps they had some staff that called in sick or gone into self-isolation. Terrible of them to inconvenience people for the sake of their health...
Also some shops have shorter Sunday hours..
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I went grocery shopping. I bought toilet paper, not because I needed it but because I wanted the cultural experience. The woman in front of me was buying toilet paper but the woman behind me wasn't and when I asked her why she wasn't buying toilet paper, she replied "because I'm not insane".
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Exactly what an insane person would say!
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I went grocery shopping. I bought toilet paper, not because I needed it but because I wanted the cultural experience. The woman in front of me was buying toilet paper but the woman behind me wasn't and when I asked her why she wasn't buying toilet paper, she replied "because I'm not insane".
Better than if she replied “I don’t use it”.
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Better than if she replied “I don’t use it”.
Other alarming answers:

"I've given it up for Lent."
"Now that I do yoga, I don't need it."
"What is it for?"
"I've just been reusing what I already have."
"Why buy when you can rent?"
"I only do that in season."
"It's cheaper to buy it used, online."
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Other alarming answers:

"I've given it up for Lent."
"Now that I do yoga, I don't need it."
"What is it for?"
"I've just been reusing what I already have."
"Why buy when you can rent?"
"I only do that in season."
"It's cheaper to buy it used, online."
"I fish it out of the neighbors' septic tanks and reuse."
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Since you said this is a new item, please be sure to read the safety instructions for your stove. I seem to remember them being dangerous to use inside a home? (carbon monoxide)
Thank you for your concern! In my Worst Case Scenario imaginings, I'd be using it outdoors. Am very fortunate to have a large back garden with plenty of space. Hadn't considered using it indoors as I was happily thinking of it being for camping, an outdoor activity, and thought I'd just be pretending to camp if the s**t hits the fan.
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Start slow, it does not take a raging bonfire to cook. Frying a batch of bacon of both a learning experience and an excellent way of seasoning the pot.

Originally Posted by casebro View Post
Do it today, it's always time for bacon.
Truer words, friend. Mmmmm....bacon. (Why didn't I buy more bacon?!)
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Originally Posted by TragicMonkey View Post
Other alarming answers:

"I've given it up for Lent."
"Now that I do yoga, I don't need it."
"What is it for?"
"I've just been reusing what I already have."
"Why buy when you can rent?"
"I only do that in season."
"It's cheaper to buy it used, online."
Only halfway alarming and a good option: "I just hop in the shower after."
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I experimented and found I CAN use ground coffee I bought by mistake in the espresso machine I depend upon to feed my wife's addiction. And we can use tap water instead of distilled if necessary. Milk is going to be the tall pole in the tent. I do have half a gallon of almond milk, just opened. I might give it a try and see if she spots it.
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Better than if she replied “I don’t use it”.
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I work in a team that does request management for a major engineering firm, handling software and hardware requests. All week we've been snowed under with requests for laptops, remote access software and security tokens. Friday they slapped down new financial restrictions and told us to start rejecting hardware requests. So yeah shoppers at the supermarket not the only ones panic buying.
I did a little nixer yesterday, set up off-site working for a friend of a friend's company; got large wad of cash, plus 576 cans of soft drinks, 1,440 tea bags and 150kg of tinned food (mostly soups).
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Federal Reserve cuts rates to zero and launches massive $700 billion quantitative easing program

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The actions by the Fed appeared to be the largest single day set of moves the bank had ever taken, mirroring in many ways its efforts during the financial crisis that were rolled out over several months. Sunday’s move includes multiple programs, rate cuts and QE, but all in a single day.
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Illinois Governor has closed all schools until April Fools day, and has now followed that up by closing all restaurants and bar through the end of the month now too. So those waitresses, waiters, cooks and related personal that were wondering how they'd deal with the newly created childcare problem, well it's been solved for you, you can now stay home with your kids. How they'll pay their bills is a problem for another day I guess.

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Originally Posted by Mike! View Post
Illinois Governor has closed all schools until April Fools day, and has now followed that up by closing all restaurants and bar through the end of the month now too. So those waitresses, waiters, cooks and related personal that were wondering how they'd deal with the newly created childcare problem, well it's been solved for you, you can now stay home with your kids. How they'll pay their bills is a problem for another day I guess.

https://fox2now.com/news/all-bars-re...d-19-concerns/
Well, we have a spare 3/4 trillion lying around for some QE to help out the Wall Street gamblers, maybe we could dig in the sofa cushions to come up with a little spare change for people who are actually working for their money.
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Well, we have a spare 3/4 trillion lying around for some QE to help out the Wall Street gamblers, maybe we could dig in the sofa cushions to come up with a little spare change for people who are actually working for their money.

You have to keep your priorities straight. What's more important? Helping a bunch of insignificant peons, or trying to reduce the negative effects of this weekend's global shutdowns on the market so it doesn't make Trump look bad?
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You have to keep your priorities straight. What's more important? Helping a bunch of insignificant peons, or trying to reduce the negative effects of this weekend's global shutdowns on the market so it doesn't make Trump look bad?
Not just insignificant, but probably majority female, many will be persons of color, and quite a few are probably Demoncrats!
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I'm a grad student at Purdue University Fort Wayne (PFW), and this past week we were on what was supposed to be our regularly scheduled spring break. The first weekend of break I was at school finishing a paper that was due Sunday night, and I noticed that containers of Clorox wipes had appeared in some of the study areas. So I decided that it would be a good idea to get some of my own to carry around in my book bag to wipe down desks, tables, and computers that I might use. I went to the grocery store on Tuesday, and I managed to get seven 80-count packages, which was about half of what they had left. I'd only been planning to buy four or five, but they were $10 off if one spent $40, so the extra two didn't cost any more money. I couldn't find any hand sanitizer anywhere, but luckily I had a 32-oz bottle on my desk at work that was mostly full. I now have it in my car, and I use it to refill a half-ounce bottle that I carry in my pocket.

Then Wednesday morning I got an email from the administration stating that spring break would be extended by a week. And in the afternoon a follow-up email announced that when classes resume, all instruction will be online. That was also when things were really starting to hit the fan in Italy, so I decided I'd better stock up on emergency food, in case we couldn't get to the store.

I live with my mother, who's 81 and diabetic, and my brother, who's 53, diabetic, and has sleep apnea. I just turned 55 and I have asthma. We're all obese. So we're all at moderate-to-high risk of complications from COVID-19. My brother and I have been having a (mostly passive-aggressive) disagreement about how we should deal with the emerging crisis. He's convinced that we should avoid going out as much as possible, even for food and other essentials. He pooh-poohed my suggestion that there could be any serious disruptions in food distribution, and he has this idea that we'll just be able to get groceries delivered whenever we need them. He's also insinuated that he should do any shopping that we do need done, because he has rubber gloves and some masks (I'm pretty sure they're not surgical masks), and he further insinuated that he's more careful about practicing good hygiene than I am. This was after I had to explain to him that the COVID-19 advice a friend forwarded to him was bogus.

My mother said "we have plenty of food," but I know that a good portion of that is refrigerated or frozen, and I don't believe she or my brother have considered what we're going to do if we're stuck in the house and there's an extended power failure. Luckily we live in a wooded area, and we have maybe half a cord of firewood handy, plus we could certainly gather more if necessary. That would at least be enough to heat water for cooking. We have a well for water, which of course won't work if the electricity is off.

So I bought about 45 person-days' worth of instant oatmeal, Ramen noodles, and canned fruit, vegetables, soup, pasta, beans, and meat, along with seven gallons of water, and a few other things, including toilet paper and cat food. A lot of this stuff is currently in the trunk of my car, and I didn't tell either of them how much I got, because I don't want them thinking we don't need any more reserves.
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