Allopathic Medicine!!! - Page 9

Red Baron Farms · 25th March 2021, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by MRC_Hans

Allopathy is one of several schools of medicine explored until the beginning of the 19th century. Other main schools were Isopathy and Homoeopathy. These were schools that concentrated on observing and inducing symptoms. Isopathy and homoeopathy worked (in somewhat different ways) on inducing symptoms similar to those of the disease, while Allopathy induced other symptoms. In Allopathy, the symptoms caused by the medicine were seen as secondary, more like a sign that the medicine was potent in some way.

As Allopathy implied observing effects and efficiacy, this generally led to evidence-based medicine, and as such can be seen as a precursor to modern, scientific medicine. However, the term is archaic and is today mainly used as a derogative, especially by homoepaths.

Thanks.

Originally Posted by MRC_Hans

This is a discussion forum. Thus, people enter into discussions. There are several hundred active members here, so it will be hard to pick a subject of any importance that will not find opponents. If this is not to your liking, you may be at the wrong place.

Been here long enough to understand how the forum works!

What was unusual was seeing such an angry post to start a thread!

No one had even told him his niece shouldn't have used that sort of doctor yet, but he was so angry already, as if someone had.

Originally Posted by MRC_Hans

Really? I wonder how you have avoided seing that. There are plenty of "alternative" practitioners who are very active in trying to discourage people from using conventional medicine, including certain in this very thread.

Hans

hmmm I did not see it, even here. All I saw was people defending the right to use whatever alternative medicine they preferred. That's pretty different than telling others they can't or shouldn't use modern medicine at all.

P.J. Denyer · 25th March 2021, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by bruto

They tried homeopathic ones but nobody could find the knife.

I'd imagime the biggest danger of a homeopathic C-Section would be tearing...

Norman Alexander · 25th March 2021, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by MRC_Hans

Allopathy is one of several schools of medicine explored until the beginning of the 19th century. Other main schools were Isopathy and Homoeopathy. These were schools that concentrated on observing and inducing symptoms. Isopathy and homoeopathy worked (in somewhat different ways) on inducing symptoms similar to those of the disease, while Allopathy induced other symptoms. In Allopathy, the symptoms caused by the medicine were seen as secondary, more like a sign that the medicine was potent in some way.

As Allopathy implied observing effects and efficiacy, this generally led to evidence-based medicine, and as such can be seen as a precursor to modern, scientific medicine. However, the term is archaic and is today mainly used as a derogative, especially by homoepaths.

Hans

Worth noting a couple of further points.

Hahnemann, the putative father of homeopathy, invented the term "allopathy" to describe the theories of those practitioners whom he believed had diverged unacceptably from his own silly theories on sickness and cure. He used it as a literal curse word in his writings, railing against them across Europe in the early 1800's. This is a practice continued today by homeopathy proponents - denigration by labeling, aka straw-manning.

All these ancient "pathies" referred solely to the use of what we now call drugs. They had no bearing on surgery or any other non-drug medical methods as we now use today. Mainly because modern surgery was still very much in its infancy in Hahnemann's day. Drugs (and leeches) were pretty much all they had. So lumping the whole of modern medical procedures under the heading of "allopathy" is not just wrong, it is ridiculously wrong.

Trebuchet · 25th March 2021, 06:42 PM

Originally Posted by Rincewind

I'm pretty sure that Trebuchet was taking the piss!

And at my age, I have to get up and do so several times a night!

Rincewind · 26th March 2021, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Trebuchet

And at my age, I have to get up and do so several times a night!

At least that's not Homeopathic!

25th March 2021, 01:06 PM	#321
Red Baron Farms Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 5,199	Originally Posted by MRC_Hans Allopathy is one of several schools of medicine explored until the beginning of the 19th century. Other main schools were Isopathy and Homoeopathy. These were schools that concentrated on observing and inducing symptoms. Isopathy and homoeopathy worked (in somewhat different ways) on inducing symptoms similar to those of the disease, while Allopathy induced other symptoms. In Allopathy, the symptoms caused by the medicine were seen as secondary, more like a sign that the medicine was potent in some way. As Allopathy implied observing effects and efficiacy, this generally led to evidence-based medicine, and as such can be seen as a precursor to modern, scientific medicine. However, the term is archaic and is today mainly used as a derogative, especially by homoepaths. Thanks. Originally Posted by MRC_Hans This is a discussion forum. Thus, people enter into discussions. There are several hundred active members here, so it will be hard to pick a subject of any importance that will not find opponents. If this is not to your liking, you may be at the wrong place. Been here long enough to understand how the forum works! What was unusual was seeing such an angry post to start a thread!No one had even told him his niece shouldn't have used that sort of doctor yet, but he was so angry already, as if someone had. Originally Posted by MRC_Hans Really? I wonder how you have avoided seing that. There are plenty of "alternative" practitioners who are very active in trying to discourage people from using conventional medicine, including certain in this very thread. Hans hmmm I did not see it, even here. All I saw was people defending the right to use whatever alternative medicine they preferred. That's pretty different than telling others they can't or shouldn't use modern medicine at all.
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25th March 2021, 01:10 PM	#322
P.J. Denyer Philosopher Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 7,997	Originally Posted by bruto They tried homeopathic ones but nobody could find the knife. I'd imagime the biggest danger of a homeopathic C-Section would be tearing...
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25th March 2021, 01:32 PM	#323
Norman Alexander Philosopher Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Gundungurra Posts: 9,147	Originally Posted by MRC_Hans Allopathy is one of several schools of medicine explored until the beginning of the 19th century. Other main schools were Isopathy and Homoeopathy. These were schools that concentrated on observing and inducing symptoms. Isopathy and homoeopathy worked (in somewhat different ways) on inducing symptoms similar to those of the disease, while Allopathy induced other symptoms. In Allopathy, the symptoms caused by the medicine were seen as secondary, more like a sign that the medicine was potent in some way. As Allopathy implied observing effects and efficiacy, this generally led to evidence-based medicine, and as such can be seen as a precursor to modern, scientific medicine. However, the term is archaic and is today mainly used as a derogative, especially by homoepaths. Hans Worth noting a couple of further points. Hahnemann, the putative father of homeopathy, invented the term "allopathy" to describe the theories of those practitioners whom he believed had diverged unacceptably from his own silly theories on sickness and cure. He used it as a literal curse word in his writings, railing against them across Europe in the early 1800's. This is a practice continued today by homeopathy proponents - denigration by labeling, aka straw-manning. All these ancient "pathies" referred solely to the use of what we now call drugs. They had no bearing on surgery or any other non-drug medical methods as we now use today. Mainly because modern surgery was still very much in its infancy in Hahnemann's day. Drugs (and leeches) were pretty much all they had. So lumping the whole of modern medical procedures under the heading of "allopathy" is not just wrong, it is ridiculously wrong.
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25th March 2021, 06:42 PM	#324
Trebuchet Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Port Townsend, Washington Posts: 31,276	Originally Posted by Rincewind I'm pretty sure that Trebuchet was taking the piss! And at my age, I have to get up and do so several times a night!
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26th March 2021, 07:43 AM	#325
Rincewind Philosopher Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Adirondacks, NY - with Magrat! Posts: 8,583	Originally Posted by Trebuchet And at my age, I have to get up and do so several times a night! At least that's not Homeopathic!
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