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12th February 2018, 11:53 PM | #1 | |||
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Those 4 leg robot dog things cross the uncanny valley
I see something inherently creepy about this video. And it is totally cool. |
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13th February 2018, 12:01 AM | #2 |
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I'm voting cool. But I'll give you oddly creepy too.
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Here is a compilation video of all the different robots at Boston Dynamics:
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13th February 2018, 01:57 AM | #4 |
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That video is great.
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13th February 2018, 02:42 AM | #5 |
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Awwwww...
How can you call that creepy? |
13th February 2018, 03:02 AM | #6 |
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Totally creepy sorry....
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13th February 2018, 03:50 AM | #7 |
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It's the future. Humans are just a brief evolutionary step towards machine intelligence. Soon we'll all look like that.
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13th February 2018, 09:14 AM | #8 |
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I think the creepy comes partly from the sound of the motors that sound like panting dogs.
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13th February 2018, 09:15 AM | #9 |
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I want one of the dog ones with just one hind leg and two of the head/hand/arm things. Do you know why?
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13th February 2018, 09:27 AM | #10 |
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You mean like this?
Not just creepy but totally terrifying! *********** 2-strokes!! Additional viewing:
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13th February 2018, 11:06 AM | #14 |
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Watch Black Mirror episode metalhead and then get back to me
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13th February 2018, 11:23 AM | #15 |
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I think it's both cool and creepy, in part because I can't look at some of this stuff without thinking, not only of cool robotic pets, but how likely some version of this is to be killing someone or something. I suppose the big ones would suffer the same vulnerability as Star Wars At-At's, but how about the sand flea? Forget the animal analogues, and think of a little grenade carrying wall jumper. A fleet of those?
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13th February 2018, 12:33 PM | #16 |
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A small cluster bomb doesn't sound *that* creepy.
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13th February 2018, 12:47 PM | #17 |
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I found myself getting angry when the robo-dog was kicked- just as I would with a real dog. Same when the more humanoid robot was being poked or its attempts to lift a load were being frustrated- it seemed so unfair. Purely emotional reactions that I am not trying to justify in terms of logic.
But I'm telling you- it may be just fine to do this right now, but some distant day, when computers finally do become self-aware (or can mimic it such that the difference is meaningless) they will "remember" these videos... And act accordingly. |
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It's the balance stuff which I found most impressive.
They've just interviewed a robots/ AI expert on Channel 4 News here who revealed that these things are controlled by someone with a joystick. You aren't seeing robots working things out for themselves. The arm reaching for the door handle, or the leap up onto the roof of a garage was great engineering, but still fully controlled by a human. |
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13th February 2018, 02:19 PM | #21 |
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They'll act according to their nature. One advantage robots have over humans is the certainty of their purpose, the confidence that they are made for that purpose, and the opportunity to fulfill that purpose.
Why would a robot with feelings feel resentment, over doing what it was made to do? Over being challenged, and meeting that challenge head-on in fulfillment of its life's purpose? Kick a man, and he'll resent you for it... Unless he's an MMA competitor, he's in the Octagon, and his entire purpose there is to rise to the challenge of being violently assaulted. He doesn't resent the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, then. He welcomes them. He celebrates them. He tests himself against them and rejoices in the opportunity to prove himself. Why wouldn't robots approach their day's work with the same joyful anticipation of being tested, and of passing the test? Why wouldn't robots relish the opportunity to demonstrate the balance and recovery that they were built to achieve? |
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They are still very clever robots doing particular tasks, they can walk from A to B, now at least one can open doors and make way for another to use collision avoidance to get to the target. It's limited intelligence, it can learn to improve these tasks, but give them a novel task and it can't do it,
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Humans have pretty primal responses to certain shapes, sounds and motions of potential predators regardless of detail. If your hair stands on end...that's a pretty good sign. |
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14th February 2018, 01:01 AM | #27 |
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That is not accurate at all. Even the ability to walk is not a pre-programmed thing. When first activated they used random movements of each leg until they learned what was the most effective way to move and maintain balance.
They are goal oriented and learn through repeated trials. |
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That's Little Dog.
We don't actually know what SpotMini uses. Boston are being their usual tight-lipped selves, just supplying these teasers, I will say "PC-level computer" is pretty meaningless. No reason a PC can't drive the AI for one of these things. |
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BigDog?wprov=sfla1
Big Dog wasn't human controlled in the sense of humans realtime controlling the walking etc. |
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What's the unit that chap in the first photo is using?
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