Harry & Meghan - Page 8

Carrot Flower King · 19th January 2023, 04:21 AM

What?

Treachery? High treason? Constitutional crisis?

WTF?

This is a spoiled brat whingeing.

And if the royals are as powerless as their apologists keep insisting, then how the **** does this squabble between a bunch of powerless rich kids become a "constitutional crisis", let alone "high treason"?

Darat · 19th January 2023, 05:13 AM

Originally Posted by Vixen

I am not interested in personalities. You were the one gushing about how wonderful Northwestern is. Not interested.

I just can't see that a jumped up cable tv actress should be pushing the UK around and preaching at us all about 'compassion', when the way they have behaved is anything but compassionate.

Of course you aren't! It's there in black and yellow!

SteveAitch · 19th January 2023, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by Darat

Of course you aren't! It's there in black and yellow!

No need to get waspish!

Vixen · 19th January 2023, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King

What?

Treachery? High treason? Constitutional crisis?

WTF?

This is a spoiled brat whingeing.

And if the royals are as powerless as their apologists keep insisting, then how the **** does this squabble between a bunch of powerless rich kids become a "constitutional crisis", let alone "high treason"?

Harry is trying to undermine his own father and brother.

Quote:

Treason is the crime of attacking a state authority to which one owes allegiance.

wiki

The correct way to change the constitution in any democracy is via parliament.

The premise of Harry's book is that because he was a 'spare' his brother squabbled and fought with him (nonsense, it's what siblings do); that the press wrote stories about his wild drug taking and partying, likewise. He must know this is pure vindictiveness rather than anything mired in truth. So 'Willy' and Kate failed to immediately bond with 'my wife'. Really?

The behaviour of this pair whilst Philip and the Queen were on their deathbeds and Meghan mocking Her Maj with her jeering curtsey shows them to be absolutely despicable and devoid of any good character.

JoeMorgue · 19th January 2023, 07:03 AM

"If your family treats you like crap but they are Royalty then complaining about it publicly is treason" is a stance that is bold and daring in both its stupidity and wrongness.

And as others have said I wish all you subjects would make up your goddamn minds as to what power your Royal Family actually has.

How the hell do you commit treason against what we keep getting told over and over are just meaningless figureheads?

Are they your Kardashians or your Leaders? Make up your goddamn mind.

Darat · 19th January 2023, 07:13 AM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

"If your family treats you like crap but they are Royalty then complaining about it publicly is treason" is a stance that is bold and daring in both its stupidity and wrongness.

And as others have said I wish all you subjects would make up your goddamn minds as to what power your Royal Family actually has.

How the hell do you commit treason against what we keep getting told over and over are just meaningless figureheads?

Are they your Kardashians or your Leaders? Make up your goddamn mind.

"Oh that's just old stuff - no one would be charged for treason in this day and age".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-63139475

"..5th October 2022 ....

Jaswant Singh Chail appeared via video-link to face three charges, including an offence under the Treason Act....."

Carrot Flower King · 19th January 2023, 09:14 AM

But Chucky and Wills aren't "state authority": they are powerless figureheads, as the apologists keep telling us. And most of us owe them nothing, let alone "allegiance".

This is really desperate, thin gruel, even by the standards of this sort of thread.

TomB · 19th January 2023, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Vixen

I am not interested in personalities. You were the one gushing about how wonderful Northwestern is. Not interested.

Do you even read what you post?

You were the one who questioned whether she was a serious actress because she didn't go to some precious acting school in the UK. I merely pointed out that she went to a serious, reputable theater school in the U.S., demonstrating that you were incorrect.

Quote:

I just can't see that a jumped up cable tv actress should be pushing the UK around and preaching at us all about 'compassion', when the way they have behaved is anything but compassionate.

First of all, I don't see where she is "pushing the U.K." around.
What I do see is you using terms like "jumped up" which means "having too high an opinion of their importance." For which I have seen no evidence.

And for not being interested in personalities, you sure seem critical of hers.

arthwollipot · 19th January 2023, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by JoeMorgue

Are they your Kardashians or your Leaders? Make up your goddamn mind.

Obviously, they are both.

theprestige · 19th January 2023, 07:37 PM

Kind of like our president.

Roger Ramjets · 19th January 2023, 11:03 PM

Originally Posted by theprestige

Kind of like our president.

How so?

Aber · 20th January 2023, 10:19 AM

US opinion of Harry & Meghan appears to be changing:

https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-mark...olling-1774669

Quote:

The Duchess of Sussex had a net approval rating of -13 and Camilla is at -8 following a survey of 2,000 eligible U.S. voters by Redfield & Wilton on Monday. The data was collected six days after the publication of Prince Harry's memoir, Spare.

The Duke of Sussex was not far behind, at -7, after his book publicity tour and the couple's recent Netflix docuseries, Harry & Meghan, appeared to collapse their U.S. popularity.

Quote:

As recently as December 5, Harry was at +38 and Meghan at +23

19th January 2023, 05:13 AM	#282
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 106,880	Originally Posted by Vixen I am not interested in personalities. You were the one gushing about how wonderful Northwestern is. Not interested. I just can't see that a jumped up cable tv actress should be pushing the UK around and preaching at us all about 'compassion', when the way they have behaved is anything but compassionate. Of course you aren't! It's there in black and yellow!
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19th January 2023, 06:11 AM	#283
SteveAitch Muse Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: St Aines Posts: 716	Originally Posted by Darat Of course you aren't! It's there in black and yellow! No need to get waspish!
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19th January 2023, 06:40 AM	#284
Vixen Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 31,485	Originally Posted by Carrot Flower King What? Treachery? High treason? Constitutional crisis? WTF? This is a spoiled brat whingeing. And if the royals are as powerless as their apologists keep insisting, then how the **** does this squabble between a bunch of powerless rich kids become a "constitutional crisis", let alone "high treason"? Harry is trying to undermine his own father and brother. Quote: Treason is the crime of attacking a state authority to which one owes allegiance. wiki The correct way to change the constitution in any democracy is via parliament. The premise of Harry's book is that because he was a 'spare' his brother squabbled and fought with him (nonsense, it's what siblings do); that the press wrote stories about his wild drug taking and partying, likewise. He must know this is pure vindictiveness rather than anything mired in truth. So 'Willy' and Kate failed to immediately bond with 'my wife'. Really? The behaviour of this pair whilst Philip and the Queen were on their deathbeds and Meghan mocking Her Maj with her jeering curtsey shows them to be absolutely despicable and devoid of any good character.
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19th January 2023, 07:13 AM	#286
Darat Lackey Administrator Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: South East, UK Posts: 106,880	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue "If your family treats you like crap but they are Royalty then complaining about it publicly is treason" is a stance that is bold and daring in both its stupidity and wrongness. And as others have said I wish all you subjects would make up your goddamn minds as to what power your Royal Family actually has. How the hell do you commit treason against what we keep getting told over and over are just meaningless figureheads? Are they your Kardashians or your Leaders? Make up your goddamn mind. "Oh that's just old stuff - no one would be charged for treason in this day and age". https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-63139475 "..5th October 2022 .... Jaswant Singh Chail appeared via video-link to face three charges, including an offence under the Treason Act....."
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19th January 2023, 09:14 AM	#287
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,377	But Chucky and Wills aren't "state authority": they are powerless figureheads, as the apologists keep telling us. And most of us owe them nothing, let alone "allegiance". This is really desperate, thin gruel, even by the standards of this sort of thread.
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19th January 2023, 04:21 AM	#281
Carrot Flower King Illuminator Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Northumberland, UK Posts: 3,377	What? Treachery? High treason? Constitutional crisis? WTF? This is a spoiled brat whingeing. And if the royals are as powerless as their apologists keep insisting, then how the **** does this squabble between a bunch of powerless rich kids become a "constitutional crisis", let alone "high treason"?

19th January 2023, 07:03 AM	#285
JoeMorgue Suspended Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 42,380	"If your family treats you like crap but they are Royalty then complaining about it publicly is treason" is a stance that is bold and daring in both its stupidity and wrongness. And as others have said I wish all you subjects would make up your goddamn minds as to what power your Royal Family actually has. How the hell do you commit treason against what we keep getting told over and over are just meaningless figureheads? Are they your Kardashians or your Leaders? Make up your goddamn mind.

19th January 2023, 11:31 AM	#288
TomB Graduate Poster Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,410	Originally Posted by Vixen I am not interested in personalities. You were the one gushing about how wonderful Northwestern is. Not interested. Do you even read what you post? You were the one who questioned whether she was a serious actress because she didn't go to some precious acting school in the UK. I merely pointed out that she went to a serious, reputable theater school in the U.S., demonstrating that you were incorrect. Quote: I just can't see that a jumped up cable tv actress should be pushing the UK around and preaching at us all about 'compassion', when the way they have behaved is anything but compassionate. First of all, I don't see where she is "pushing the U.K." around. What I do see is you using terms like "jumped up" which means "having too high an opinion of their importance." For which I have seen no evidence. And for not being interested in personalities, you sure seem critical of hers.
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19th January 2023, 07:34 PM	#289
arthwollipot Observer of Phenomena Pronouns: he/him Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Ngunnawal Country Posts: 79,916	Originally Posted by JoeMorgue Are they your Kardashians or your Leaders? Make up your goddamn mind. Obviously, they are both.
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19th January 2023, 07:37 PM	#290
theprestige Penultimate Amazing Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: The Antimemetics Division Posts: 63,027	Kind of like our president.
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19th January 2023, 11:03 PM	#291
Roger Ramjets Philosopher Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 6,041	Originally Posted by theprestige Kind of like our president. How so?
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20th January 2023, 10:19 AM	#292
Aber Graduate Poster Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,936	US opinion of Harry & Meghan appears to be changing: https://www.newsweek.com/meghan-mark...olling-1774669 Quote: The Duchess of Sussex had a net approval rating of -13 and Camilla is at -8 following a survey of 2,000 eligible U.S. voters by Redfield & Wilton on Monday. The data was collected six days after the publication of Prince Harry's memoir, Spare. The Duke of Sussex was not far behind, at -7, after his book publicity tour and the couple's recent Netflix docuseries, Harry & Meghan, appeared to collapse their U.S. popularity. Quote: As recently as December 5, Harry was at +38 and Meghan at +23
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